DOES 400mg test E/ week PERMANENTLY fuck HPTA at 18?? [HIGH IQ GTFIH]

[nik.077]

Ive read so many threads about this topic now and to be honest im more confused now than I was before for every 10 people saying I will perma fuck my body there are 10 more telling me just do PCT and you will be fine

I dont plan on doing this for bone mass or any other cope, just body halo.

I was planning on doing:

400mg testosterone enanthate/week for 12 weeks
4IU HGH
500mcg HCG 2x per week
Exemestane (Aromasin) as needed and based on blood work

(would I need anything else for PCT or is AI+HCG on cycle enough?)

my main concern is just that my HPTA doesnt recover or I perma fuck my endocrine system + dick - should I just wait 2 more years or so before my first cycle?

I need some high IQ people please.

@chadisbeingmade @Rigged @Orc - I saw you guys post in a few threads regarding this topic

thanks for any help, I know this question probably gets asked a lot but like I said, ive yet to find a clear answer.

 

[testandtitos]

do you think i should add something or is test 400 only fine for first cycle?

yeah add more test. Id say 500 is the minimum. No reason to lose natty card to an underwhelming dose and thus underwhelming results

 

[nik.077]

yeah add more test. Id say 500 is the minimum. No reason to lose natty card to an underwhelming dose and thus underwhelming results

for how many weeks would you do the 500? and can you also rep me please

 

[TitusA]

Ive read so many threads about this topic now and to be honest im more confused now than I was before for every 10 people saying I will perma fuck my body there are 10 more telling me just do PCT and you will be fine

I dont plan on doing this for bone mass or any other cope, just body halo.

I was planning on doing:

400mg testosterone enanthate/week for 12 weeks
4IU HGH
500mcg HCG 2x per week
Exemestane (Aromasin) as needed and based on blood work

(would I need anything else for PCT or is AI+HCG on cycle enough?)

my main concern is just that my HPTA doesnt recover or I perma fuck my endocrine system + dick - should I just wait 2 more years or so before my first cycle?

I need some high IQ people please.

@chadisbeingmade @Rigged @Orc - I saw you guys post in a few threads regarding this topic

thanks for any help, I know this question probably gets asked a lot but like I said, ive yet to find a clear answer.

0 chance. Most people are underwhelmed with low doses of testosterone though and end up upping the dose or adding other drugs. Wont get that feeling of being hit with a sledgehammer like you are really on steroids/drugs from 400mg. Think of it being more like a supplement (when you were young/naive and though supplements like creatine could make a difference) that actually does something.

You will push past natural potential but wont be gaining huge amounts of strength and looking drastically different overnight.

 

[nik.077]

0 chance. Most people are underwhelmed with low doses of testosterone though and end up upping the dose or adding other drugs. Wont get that feeling of being hit with a sledgehammer like you are really on steroids/drugs from 400mg. Think of it being more like a supplement (when you were young/naive and though supplements like creatine could make a difference) that actually does something.

You will push past natural potential but wont be gaining huge amounts of strength and looking drastically different overnight.

do you think I should be adding something for my first cycle or is test only good? I was thinking of either RAD-140 or something like winstrol. id like to keep my health and hair tho if possible - test only probably best for that right? as test has the highest risk to reward

 

[TitusA]

do you think I should be adding something for my first cycle or is test only good? I was thinking of either RAD-140 or something like winstrol. id like to keep my health and hair tho if possible - test only probably best for that right? as test has the highest risk to reward

If you are really concerned about hair just test and 5ar for no/low risk. Definitely dont use winstrol. Id use test and just up it over time with fin/dut or id use 400mg and add a low dose of one of the milder orals dbol, tbol, anavar (although make sure u get legit anavar because its faked for winstrol).

If u dont plan on using finasteride/dutasteride with testosterone then deca works well and is mild for hair loss. Cant take deca with a 5ar inhibitor because the 5ar inhibitor makes its hair loss effect worse.

Cant speak for RAD-140 because never saw any point in using sarms when you can use steroids to achieve everything and we have way more data on them.

 

[test monster]

not sure if I like that idea (yet)

Idiot havent watched or read anything on the topic

 

[nik.077]

Idiot havent watched or read anything on the topic

I did, all I said is im not sure if I like the idea of having to do TRT for the rest of my life. doesnt mean I wouldnt do it if I had to - im open to do so just not keen on doing it

im not sure why you are so hostile

 

[testandtitos]

for how many weeks would you do the 500? and can you also rep me please

id say 20 weeks is sweet spot but can go longer than that if you want

 

[pharmatropics]

Ive read so many threads about this topic now and to be honest im more confused now than I was before for every 10 people saying I will perma fuck my body there are 10 more telling me just do PCT and you will be fine

I dont plan on doing this for bone mass or any other cope, just body halo.

I was planning on doing:

400mg testosterone enanthate/week for 12 weeks
4IU HGH
500mcg HCG 2x per week
Exemestane (Aromasin) as needed and based on blood work

(would I need anything else for PCT or is AI+HCG on cycle enough?)

my main concern is just that my HPTA doesnt recover or I perma fuck my endocrine system + dick - should I just wait 2 more years or so before my first cycle?

I need some high IQ people please.

@chadisbeingmade @Rigged @Orc - I saw you guys post in a few threads regarding this topic

thanks for any help, I know this question probably gets asked a lot but like I said, ive yet to find a clear answer.

To abosolutely minimize risk, also periodically pin HMG, gonadotropin, and if you want kisspeptin-10

This just prevent your body from completely shutting of for MONTHS, just a few reminders a week is enough to help your body recover much better.

 

[Faustum]

Enclo is better, clomid is a mix of two isomers - enclo and zuclomiphene.

Enclo is better BUT its 4x the price of Clomid.

Clomid is dirt cheap and depending on the person, can 2x-3x. your T naturally.