Does a female getting fingered....

Does fingering/handjob count as losing virginity ?


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The Greeks can keep crying for North Macedonians, imagine a bunch of Athenians and Peloponnese greeks larping as being more Macedonian when Alexander roasted them all the time :feelshaha:
Werent they Hellenes ?
 
Werent they Hellenes ?
They were but they weren't the same as Southern Greeks, Macedonians were taller, lighter and had some mixed culture from Thracians and other northern balkan people, they weren't pure greeks. Either way North Macedonians are as much if not more true Macedonians then todays Greeks living in Athens or Crete that had nothing to do with the Macedonian Kingdom. North Macedonians are genetically mixed with slavic, native balkan and greek in them
 
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Fingering is just as much of a sexual act as fucking.

I personally only make an exception for kissing/cuddling being less severe.

Oral/Handjob = sex. Period
 
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They were but they weren't the same as Southern Greeks, Macedonians were taller, lighter and had some mixed culture from Thracians and other northern balkan people, they weren't pure greeks. Either way North Macedonians are as much if not more true Macedonians then todays Greeks living in Athens or Crete that had nothing to do with the Macedonian Kingdom. North Macedonians are genetically mixed with slavic, native balkan and greek in them
North Macedonians are Albanian Bulgarians bro
 
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They were but they weren't the same as Southern Greeks, Macedonians were taller, lighter and had some mixed culture from Thracians and other northern balkan people, they weren't pure greeks. Either way North Macedonians are as much if not more true Macedonians then todays Greeks living in Athens or Crete that had nothing to do with the Macedonian Kingdom. North Macedonians are genetically mixed with slavic, native balkan and greek in them
Ok but respond to the other question
Could i pass as local or foreigner in balkan ?
 
Fingering is just as much of a sexual act as fucking.

I personally only make an exception for kissing/cuddling being less severe.

Oral/Handjob = sex. Period
True
 
North Macedonians are Albanian Bulgarians bro
Thats cope, the people here called themselves macedonian since the early 19th century at least from historical documents, do you think they just made it up from nowhere just like that? It was orally preserved indentiy since the ancient times, the Greeks living in todays Greek Macedonia are immigrants from central and southern Greece, nothing to do with the original Macedonians
 
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Ok but respond to the other question
Could i pass as local or foreigner in balkan ?
Don't think so, slightly off, honestly i can't now for sure until you lose weight, but you can maybe pass as albanian ngl
 
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Thats cope, the people here called themselves macedonian since the early 19th century at least from historical documents, do you think they just made it up from nowhere just like that? It was orally preserved indentiy since the ancient times, the Greeks living in todays Greek Macedonia are immigrants from central and southern Greece, nothing to do with the original Macedonians
I was joking, man.

You are probably aware that German humor is stereotyped as bad.
 
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Thats cope, the people here called themselves macedonian since the early 19th century at least from historical documents, do you think they just made it up from nowhere just like that? It was orally preserved indentiy since the ancient times, the Greeks living in todays Greek Macedonia are immigrants from central and southern Greece, nothing to do with the original Macedonians
Thats just self identification tho
 
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Don't think so, slightly off, honestly i can't now for sure until you lose weight, but you can maybe pass as albanian ngl
>albanians
Cause they E ?

So Balkanites are white then ?
Just a little bit darker than other euros
 
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Thats just self identification tho
Okay and? There is a big difference between 20th century self identification that was imposed from propaganda made by the state which is not organic, and self identification from peasants living in some mountains their whole life, because there was no propaganda to tell them to self identity as macedonian then it easily means it is part of their identity since the whole of North Macedonia was conquered by Philip, Alexanders father.

Aurelian was also not ethnically Latin, but he regarded and was born a cultural identifying Roman who saved the Roman empire.

Ancestors of todays North Macedonians before Philip conquering the place were probably a mix of Thracians, Pannonians and Illyrians, but after the conquering they started to identify with the macedonian culture, and it was cemented during the Antagonid reign during the Diadochi wars. When 170bc came and Romans conquered the place, everyone in the central Balkans identified as Macedonian
 
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Okay and? There is a big difference between 20th century self identification that was imposed from propaganda made by the state which is not organic, and self identification from peasants living in some mountains their whole life, because there was no propaganda to tell them to self identity as macedonian then it easily means it is part of their identity since the whole of North Macedonia was conquered by Philip, Alexanders father.

Aurelian was also not ethnically Latin, but he regarded and was born a cultural identifying Roman who saved the Roman empire.

Ancestors of todays North Macedonians before Philip conquering the place were probably a mix of Thracians, Pannonians and Illyrians, but after the conquering they started to identify with the macedonian culture, and it was cemented during the Antagonid reign during the Diadochi wars. When 170bc came and Romans conquered the place, everyone in the central Balkans identified as Macedonian
Latins dont exist anymore beside few peasants in the Latium
 
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Latins dont exist anymore beside few peasants in the Latium
Yeah, but thats like if there was still Vlach people living in the Balkans, calling themselves Romans and Italians telling them they aren't Romans even though by the 2nd century the Western Balkans completely identified as Roman, is like calling Constantine and Aurelian non Romans
 
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Yeah, but thats like if there was still Vlach people living in the Balkans, calling themselves Romans and Italians telling them they aren't Romans even though by the 2nd century the Western Balkans completely identified as Roman, is like calling Constantine and Aurelian non Romans
Yeah
Illyrians became Romanised
Same for Hellenes with the ERE
 
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Kosovo seems to be even more than Albania tbh
Original Illyrians mostly had J, R1 and E halpgroup, similar to today's Albanians. I2 halpgroup that tall Bosnians, Croats, and Serbs have is a slavic halpgroup that comes from Western Ukraine, i always laugh when retarded Serbs and Bosnian tell Albanians that they aren't Illyrians but Bosnians and Serbs are cause of misinterpreting the i2 halpgroup which was thought to be native Balkan in the past put it isnt
 
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Okay and? There is a big difference between 20th century self identification that was imposed from propaganda made by the state which is not organic, and self identification from peasants living in some mountains their whole life, because there was no propaganda to tell them to self identity as macedonian then it easily means it is part of their identity since the whole of North Macedonia was conquered by Philip, Alexanders father.

Aurelian was also not ethnically Latin, but he regarded and was born a cultural identifying Roman who saved the Roman empire.

Ancestors of todays North Macedonians before Philip conquering the place were probably a mix of Thracians, Pannonians and Illyrians, but after the conquering they started to identify with the macedonian culture, and it was cemented during the Antagonid reign during the Diadochi wars. When 170bc came and Romans conquered the place, everyone in the central Balkans identified as Macedonian
You forgot to mention the slavic migrations
 
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Original Illyrians mostly had J, R1 and E halpgroup, similar to today's Albanians. I2 halpgroup that tall Bosnians, Croats, and Serbs have is a slavic halpgroup that comes from Western Ukraine, i always laugh when retarded Serbs and Bosnian tell Albanians that they aren't Illyrians but Bosnians and Serbs are cause of misinterpreting the i2 halpgroup which was thought to be native Balkan in the past put it isnt
Then L of Scandinivia ?
 
You forgot to mention the slavic migrations
But the Slavic dna in modern North Macedonians is low, Slavs never overwhelmed the population here when they settled, they mostly mixed and exchanged culture.
 
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Original Illyrians mostly had J, R1 and E halpgroup, similar to today's Albanians. I2 halpgroup that tall Bosnians, Croats, and Serbs have is a slavic halpgroup that comes from Western Ukraine, i always laugh when retarded Serbs and Bosnian tell Albanians that they aren't Illyrians but Bosnians and Serbs are cause of misinterpreting the i2 halpgroup which was thought to be native Balkan in the past put it isnt
According to this map that @Maesthetic posted I2 is dominant in every Balkan country other than Bulgaria, Albania and Kosovo.
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by definition she will be still a virgin. an impure whore though, but a virgin
 
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by definition she will be still a virgin. an impure whore though, but a virgin
Losing Virginity = any sexual act
 
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Yeah, I think this idea of only "P in V" being considered as losing your virginity should be discontinued.

Women can lose their virginity by stuff like horse-riding too, so saying that only P in V makes her nor longer a virgin is stupid. Oral sex, fingering and handjobs are all sexual acts which can lead to orgasm/ejaculation so yes, if a woman has done any of this, then she's not a virgin.
 
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Jfl at the cucks who voted no
Oral/hand sex is still sex
 
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Yeah, I think this idea of only "P in V" being considered as losing your virginity should be discontinued.

Women can lose their virginity by stuff like horse-riding too, so saying that only P in V makes her nor longer a virgin is stupid. Oral sex, fingering and handjobs are all sexual acts which can lead to orgasm/ejaculation so yes, if a woman has done any of this, then she's not a virgin.
This but

>can lose their virginity by stuff like horse-riding
So its not losing virginity if this isnt a sexual act
 
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more dark blue color in their pie chart
Well ok, barely, and it's not like i2 is the only halpgroup there, its about 30% in Serbia and highest about 50% in Bosnia
 
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No it isn't anyone who says otherwise is terraretarded
 
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