Does anyone look subhuman when they close their teeth together?

[Deleted member 33142]

It drops my psl by literally 2-3 points.

 

[12PSLsubhuman]

Classic SFS(short face syndrome), let me guess u probably have an overbite too and probably has no upper teeth show when talking
Pros:
• Fixable with a bimax with downgraft
• The best bimax results are always SFS patients by a country mile
• probably has a compact midface and maybe a decent lefort 2 area too
• after surgery face becomes extremely chiseled after leaning cause the extra bone mass stretches the skin, which also make u age slower
Cons
• literal torture before surgery due to 24 he jutting
• will fuck ur TMJ up if not fixed decently early 30-35 yr old atleast
• looks like a malformed child when teeth are together
• literal death sentence when not frauding
• shitty smile due to no teeth show or in general when u open ur mouth

 

[Deleted member 33142]

Classic SFS(short face syndrome), let me guess u probably have an overbite too and probably has no upper teeth show when talking
Pros:
• Fixable with a bimax with downgraft
• The best bimax results are always SFS patients by a country mile
• probably has a compact midface and maybe a decent lefort 2 area too
• after surgery face becomes extremely chiseled after leaning cause the extra bone mass stretches the skin, which also make u age slower
Cons
• literal torture before surgery due to 24 he jutting
• will fuck ur TMJ up if not fixed decently early 30-35 yr old atleast
• looks like a malformed child when teeth are together
• literal death sentence when not frauding
• shitty smile due to no teeth show or in general when u open ur mouth

Yea most of this is accurate, i’m coping with HGH and proviron right now. I may grow out of my face as i’m only 16. But I kinda look like pneumo before he started looksmaxing.

 

[12PSLsubhuman]

Yea most of this is accurate, i’m coping with HGH and proviron right now. I may grow out of my face as i’m only 16. But I kinda look like pneumo before he started looksmaxing.

Would save up for surgery If I were u tbh. It's literally a medical issue that should be fixed.

 

[Deleted member 33142]

Would save up for surgery If I were u tbh. It's literally a medical issue that should be fixed.

How is it a medical issue?

 

[12PSLsubhuman]

How is it a medical issue?

Medical as in not gonna kill u, but could fuck u up later in life issue. With SFS if u close ur mouth with teeth together u r grinding and ruining ur TMJ. If u jut out u r overstretching it and ruining ur TMJ. If u know some oldcel with knee arthritis who had surgery, even after they had it, it would only provide them relief and not cure them. TMJD is much worse since it is a much more difficult joint to operate on and has only like 60 percent succes rate to provide a decent pain relief

But this all depends on how severe ur overbite/SFS is and other factors

 

[Deleted member 33142]

Medical as in not gonna kill u, but could fuck u up later in life issue. With SFS if u close ur mouth with teeth together u r grinding and ruining ur TMJ. If u jut out u r overstretching it and ruining ur TMJ. If u know some oldcel with knee arthritis who had surgery, even after they had it, it would only provide them relief and not cure them. TMJD is much worse since it is a much more difficult joint to operate on and has only like 60 percent succes rate to provide a decent pain relief

But this all depends on how severe ur overbite/SFS is and other factors

Damn nigga that’s crazy how you diagnosed my problem so fast? Do you suffer from short face syndrome as well?

 

[12PSLsubhuman]

Damn nigga that’s crazy how you diagnosed my problem so fast? Do you suffer from short face syndrome as well?

Yep lol. Diagnosed too since I had an accident in 2014 and damaged the growth of my lefort 1 area. Basically I got hit hard in the area between my nose and my teeth and I lost two of my incisors and also permanently stopped growth in the LF1 area. I was 9 then and when I developed everything else it legit made me look deformed when teeth are together

 

[Deleted member 33142]

Yep lol. Diagnosed too since I had an accident in 2014 and damaged the growth of my lefort 1 area. Basically I got hit hard in the area between my nose and my teeth and I lost two of my incisors and also permanently stopped growth in the LF1 area. I was 9 then and when I developed everything else it legit made me look deformed when teeth are together

Do your cheeks also get super fucking chubby when you put your teeth together?

 

[12PSLsubhuman]

Yah it's also one of its signs tbh. It's coz there is no bone to stretch the soft tissues when they r together

Do your cheeks also get super fucking chubby when you put your teeth together?

 

[Gonthar]

It drops my psl by literally 2-3 points.

Just photo of your mouth or lower face.

 

[horizontallytall]

Chances are ur forehead is roudish too?

 

[12PSLsubhuman]

Fuck bro i have it too, @BloodClot Literally Exact same fucking problems.

i guess we need bimax + ccw rotation?

Bimax + cw

 

[Orc]

I have this even though I have an extremely developed jaw.

your teeth aren't supposed to touch when your face is relaxed, this is normal.

 

[Deleted member 30188]

I have this even though I have an extremely developed jaw.

your teeth aren't supposed to touch when your face is relaxed, this is normal.

you just walk around with your teeth not toucking

 

[Deleted member 30188]

Bimax + cw

how much does all of that cost and how does one know if its just not another overbite

 

[Orc]

you just walk around with your teeth not toucking

yes you are supposed to.

 

[Deleted member 30188]

yes you are supposed to.

that doesnt hurt anything or are you trolling

 

[HarrierDuBois]

Medical as in not gonna kill u, but could fuck u up later in life issue.

Bite issues resulting in sleep apnea take 20 years off your life so it is lethal.

 

[Orc]

that doesnt hurt anything or are you trolling

your gums literally suffer if you chronically hold your teeth together, they're only supposed to touch when you're chewing.

 

[12PSLsubhuman]

Yah probably, also I don't have sleep apnea tbh, both my lower and upper jaws are wide as fuck, which kinda compensates for it

Bite issues resulting in sleep apnea take 20 years off your life so it is lethal.

 

[Deleted member 30188]

Yah probably, also I don't have sleep apnea tbh, both my lower and upper jaws are wide as fuck, which kinda compensates for it

what if when i close my teeth it fits what you describe but when i set my incisors together, i look good. I have an over bite that covers almost the entire tooth. would fixing that be enough?

 

[12PSLsubhuman]

what if when i close my teeth it fits what you describe but when i set my incisors together, i look good. I have an over bite that covers almost the entire tooth. would fixing that be enough?

How do u intend to fix the overbite tho. Coz u probably would have a decently big one and also fixing overbite by braces, Invisalign etc will definitely make ur face worse, especially since u already have a shit lower maxilla due to SFS

 

[Deleted member 30188]

How do u intend to fix the overbite tho. Coz u probably would have a decently big one and also fixing overbite by braces, Invisalign etc will definitely make ur face worse, especially since u already have a shit lower maxilla due to SFS

How do we fix it then.

 

[12PSLsubhuman]

How do we fix it then.

Jaw surgery. The best way and also improves the face massively if not botched

 

[Deleted member 31072]

I have 4 teeth missing my nigga

 

[12PSLsubhuman]

What abt genio also? or nah?

Yah genio too if u need aesthetics which u should look for. Trimax then

 

[12PSLsubhuman]

Yah if u want go for a good surgeon like raffaini. He is the best 'affordable' surgeon for shit like this but I have heard he is a bit harsh to people who r not Italians.

 

[Orc]

So what about when you talk?

you're doing something wrong if they're touching when you talk.

even while you chew they are barely supposed to touch.

 

[12PSLsubhuman]

i have a jaw surgeon consult next month, gonnna explain to him how my overbite has caused the shortening of my lower third and chin recession, also that my overbite has caused TMJ (which is a lie) and that i can’t breathe properly in the night because of it.

might get bimax insurance, but idk if he will do it aesthetically enough

Always try to go for the best aesthetic surgeon that u can afford tbh, even if it takes a year more of wageslaving

 

[12PSLsubhuman]

im 17 tho its gonna take like 3 years of wageslaving

so who should i go to for aesthetic purposes, raffaini?

i dont think there are any blackpilled surgeons in the netherlands

Alfaro, raffaini, ramieri, sailor etc. Since u r 17 I would recommend u to wait for some time too. Especially if u r low on money coz if ur face still grows u may end up needing another revision

 

[12PSLsubhuman]

have u fixed urs yet?

Nope. Just turned 18 last month lol. Also will take 2 more years or so since I will get a decent inheritance from my grandfather by that time

 

[blonde chad]

Classic SFS(short face syndrome), let me guess u probably have an overbite too and probably has no upper teeth show when talking
Pros:
• Fixable with a bimax with downgraft
• The best bimax results are always SFS patients by a country mile
• probably has a compact midface and maybe a decent lefort 2 area too
• after surgery face becomes extremely chiseled after leaning cause the extra bone mass stretches the skin, which also make u age slower
Cons
• literal torture before surgery due to 24 he jutting
• will fuck ur TMJ up if not fixed decently early 30-35 yr old atleast
• looks like a malformed child when teeth are together
• literal death sentence when not frauding
• shitty smile due to no teeth show or in general when u open ur mouth

yo bro, can i dm u? i will show u my pics and im candidate from bimax

 

[Deleted member 29041]

Happens to everyone no sign of recession.