Does it make sense to keep using tretinoin for anti-aging purposes but not for acne?

[Zain202]

Since I'm 32 and don't have acne, I've been using tretinoin (0.05%) for 9 months to improve the appearance of my skin. Even while I think I can see a difference, I question whether I am being overly optimistic about that. Here is my regimen; if you have any ideas for additions, please let me know.I wash my face with Cerave's moisturising foam cleanser in the morning, then use SkinCeuticals' vitamin C serum, moisturiser, and, if I'm not wearing makeup, a tinted SPF from La Roche-Posay. I wash my face with salicylic acid at night to get rid of debris and makeup, and then I use tretiwell gel from Skinorac to apply tretinoin to my damp skin in a pea-sized amount. I apply moisturiser once more after that.

 

[capitulation]

Yes, it can help with wrinkles

You can also microdose the pills instead of the cream

 

[IAMNOTANINCEL]

Just eat raw meat

 

[kingofkings]

Yes, it's one of the best anti-aging skin products out there.

The only thing to bear in mind is long term use can lead to hypervitaminosis A - i.e. toxic amounts of vit A in your system. This actually happened to me after years of using it religiously every single day. I had to quit it completely.

 

[LilJojo]

Since I'm 32 and don't have acne, I've been using tretinoin (0.05%) for 9 months to improve the appearance of my skin. Even while I think I can see a difference, I question whether I am being overly optimistic about that. Here is my regimen; if you have any ideas for additions, please let me know.I wash my face with Cerave's moisturising foam cleanser in the morning, then use SkinCeuticals' vitamin C serum, moisturiser, and, if I'm not wearing makeup, a tinted SPF from La Roche-Posay. I wash my face with salicylic acid at night to get rid of debris and makeup, and then I use tretiwell gel from Skinorac to apply tretinoin to my damp skin in a pea-sized amount. I apply moisturiser once more after that.

Stop using mainstream skincare brands. They wouldn’t make sales if they magically fixed your skin. Moisturise with water and use Retinol mixed with benzoyl peroxide.

 

[Tr0ubLe]

Yes, it's one of the best anti-aging skin products out there.

The only thing to bear in mind is long term use can lead to hypervitaminosis A - i.e. toxic amounts of vit A in your system. This actually happened to me after years of using it religiously every single day. I had to quit it completely.

So we should hop on and off tret just fir maintenance

 

[Thebuffdon690]

So we should hop on and off tret just fir maintenance

Yeh I reckon cycle on and off just like roids sounds the most optimising

 

[Zain202]

Yes, it can help with wrinkles

You can also microdose the pills instead of the cream

what pills are we talking here

 

[Struggler03]

So we should hop on and off tret just fir maintenance

I stop using tret during summer seasons and stay on it during other seasons, works best due to it increasing your photo sensitivity

 

[Zain202]

I stop using tret during summer seasons and stay on it during other seasons, works best due to it increasing your photo sensitivity

Didn't know about it, thanks

 

[J.Burns]

Since I'm 32 and don't have acne, I've been using tretinoin (0.05%) for 9 months to improve the appearance of my skin. Even while I think I can see a difference, I question whether I am being overly optimistic about that. Here is my regimen; if you have any ideas for additions, please let me know.I wash my face with Cerave's moisturising foam cleanser in the morning, then use SkinCeuticals' vitamin C serum, moisturiser, and, if I'm not wearing makeup, a tinted SPF from La Roche-Posay. I wash my face with salicylic acid at night to get rid of debris and makeup, and then I use tretiwell gel from Skinorac to apply tretinoin to my damp skin in a pea-sized amount. I apply moisturiser once more after that.

Tret isn't going to make you look better, Accutane will do much more for you in that regard. Also don't go for the weird shiny glow look, Tazarotene is suitable for that one.

 

[Zain202]

Tret isn't going to make you look better, Accutane will do much more for you in that regard. Also don't go for the weird shiny glow look, Tazarotene is suitable for that one.

How will taz help?

 

[perkzz]

Tret isn't going to make you look better, Accutane will do much more for you in that regard. Also don't go for the weird shiny glow look, Tazarotene is suitable for that one.

does taz give a the shiny glow?

 

[Vanilla]

Since I'm 32 and don't have acne, I've been using tretinoin (0.05%) for 9 months to improve the appearance of my skin. Even while I think I can see a difference, I question whether I am being overly optimistic about that. Here is my regimen; if you have any ideas for additions, please let me know.I wash my face with Cerave's moisturising foam cleanser in the morning, then use SkinCeuticals' vitamin C serum, moisturiser, and, if I'm not wearing makeup, a tinted SPF from La Roche-Posay. I wash my face with salicylic acid at night to get rid of debris and makeup, and then I use tretiwell gel from Skinorac to apply tretinoin to my damp skin in a pea-sized amount. I apply moisturiser once more after that.

can tret be used instead of sunscreen?

 

[aids]

can tret be used instead of sunscreen?

No, you are more susceptible to burning when using it. I would use sunscreen regardless, but it is especially important with Tretinoin.

 

[Zain202]

Sunscreen should be used irrespective of using tret

 

[J.Burns]

does taz give a the shiny glow?

depends, usually le

does taz give a the shiny glow?

yes, but if you use low dose accutane on top it will subside and amazing skin will appear.

 

[Zain202]

depends, usually le


yes, but if you use low dose accutane on top it will subside and amazing skin will appear.

how much time does it take for it to see the effect?

 

[JizzFarmer]

Yes, it's one of the best anti-aging skin products out there.

The only thing to bear in mind is long term use can lead to hypervitaminosis A - i.e. toxic amounts of vit A in your system. This actually happened to me after years of using it religiously every single day. I had to quit it completely.

Were you using topical or oral lol? Systemic absorption of topical tretinoin is negligible

 

[Zain202]

depends, usually le


yes, but if you use low dose accutane on top it will subside and amazing skin will appear.

What dosage do you suggest

 

[Tallcell]

No, you are more susceptible to burning when using it. I would use sunscreen regardless, but it is especially important with Tretinoin.

This is actually not true. It's a myth. You should use sunscreen regardless tho like you said

 

[kingofkings]

Were you using topical or oral lol? Systemic absorption of topical tretinoin is negligible

Topical.

I have shared my experience. It's pretty dumb for you to try and tell me that's not what happened when I lived through it. I'm doing people a big favor by warning them to be careful with long term usage without any breaks.

Case I found in 1 minute of googling (yes it's topical tretinoin):

The chronic use of Tretinoin has been linked to premature death. A study designed to investigate whether continuous use of the prescription retinoid reduced the incidence of skin cancers had to be terminated early due to an excess of deaths in the patients receiving the Tretinoin. The main cause of death was respiratory related and lung cancers. It has been postulated that the Tretinoin was being absorbed into the body and circulating to the lung where it altered levels of signalling molecules responsible for inflammation and cell division.

I've bolded the parts about continuous usage and the drug being absorbed into the body and circulating. I didn't know it's been linked to death, and that's not my point. I just know in my case it caused hyper vitaminosis A (eventually, after years of using it daily).

 

[aids]

This is actually not true. It's a myth. You should use sunscreen regardless tho like you said

By your logic, does isotretinoin also not cause you to be more susceptible to burning?

 

[JizzFarmer]

Topical.

I have shared my experience. It's pretty dumb for you to try and tell me that's not what happened when I lived through it. I'm doing people a big favor by warning them to be careful with long term usage without any breaks.

Case I found in 1 minute of googling (yes it's topical tretinoin):

The chronic use of Tretinoin has been linked to premature death. A study designed to investigate whether continuous use of the prescription retinoid reduced the incidence of skin cancers had to be terminated early due to an excess of deaths in the patients receiving the Tretinoin. The main cause of death was respiratory related and lung cancers. It has been postulated that the Tretinoin was being absorbed into the body and circulating to the lung where it altered levels of signalling molecules responsible for inflammation and cell division.

I've bolded the parts about continuous usage and the drug being absorbed into the body and circulating. I didn't know it's been linked to death, and that's not my point. I just know in my case it caused hyper vitaminosis A (eventually, after years of using it daily).

Alright mate. It mathematically does not make sense for topical tret to be the sole cause of your vit a toxicity. A 0.25g dose of 0.05% tretinoin contains around 125mcg of vitamin A. The tolerable limit of vitamin A for men is 3000mcg. Even if 100% of the cream was entering your circulation, you would have had to be taking in vitamin A from another source to have caused your toxicity. I'm not denying that you had hypervitaminosis A kid, but it seems extremely unlikely that it was a topical medication which has negligible systemic absorption that caused it.

The death study just shows why you need to read an entire paper instead of a headline. Firstly, the study was done on a bunch of old men 70+. The smoking status of participants was not clear and reliable, which is relevant given a lot of the deaths were due to respiratory and cardiovascular complications. In the words of the authors "we do not infer a causal association that current evidence suggests is unlikely."

 

[J.Burns]

What dosage do you suggest

trial by error, take 20mg BID then lower and see what the dose is that will inhibit sebum production fully.

Contrary to what some on here say, sebum production is terrible for skin aging, actually it is one of the best ways to judge if someone's fibroblasts lose efficacy. Oily skin = accelerated aging

Isotretinoin also enhances skin hydration and temperature.

 

[Zain202]

trial by error, take 20mg BID then lower and see what the dose is that will inhibit sebum production fully.

Contrary to what some on here say, sebum production is terrible for skin aging, actually it is one of the best ways to judge if someone's fibroblasts lose efficacy. Oily skin = accelerated aging

Isotretinoin also enhances skin hydration and temperature.

Thanks bro