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so many guys keep spamming ”muh high fighting success” and how important it is in attraction

meanwhile most MMA winners are small af, basically tons of fat and zero muscles

look at this guy, im much bigger than him yet hes the best MMA fighter, with a skinnyfat body. How is that even possible. He looks like the average guy on the street wtf.

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because the more muscle mass you have, the faster you'll tire out, skill and speed mog big muscles in a fight because your fist gets heavier when it's fast
 
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No martial arts for your face, martial arts is a skill and not part of your appearance so women don't care at all. I have years of martial art experience but it's just a cope like any other activity.
 
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No martial arts for your face, martial arts is a skill and not part of your appearance so women don't care at all. I have years of martial art experience but it's just a cope like any other activity.
not talking fightint skills here but how people here say traits with high fightint success are important yet all these MMA fighters are skinnyfat
 
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so many guys keep spamming ”muh high fighting success” and how important it is in attraction

meanwhile most MMA winners are small af, basically tons of fat and zero muscles

look at this guy, im much bigger than him yet hes the best MMA fighter, with a skinnyfat body. How is that even possible. He looks like the average guy on the street wtf.

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Jon Jones is like 6'4 and 205lbs. He also has a wingspan of 7'1.
Are you really bigger than him? If so thats amazing
 
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so many guys keep spamming ”muh high fighting success” and how important it is in attraction

meanwhile most MMA winners are small af, basically tons of fat and zero muscles

look at this guy, im much bigger than him yet hes the best MMA fighter, with a skinnyfat body. How is that even possible. He looks like the average guy on the street wtf.

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They have type 1 muscle fibers and have to make weight classes there are plenty of heavier MMA fighters with more muscle than this. Muscle (strength) is a tool to accentuate skill
 
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so many guys keep spamming ”muh high fighting success” and how important it is in attraction

meanwhile most MMA winners are small af, basically tons of fat and zero muscles

look at this guy, im much bigger than him yet hes the best MMA fighter, with a skinnyfat body. How is that even possible. He looks like the average guy on the street wtf.

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Bruh, Jon Jones is like 210@6'4 and is unironically strong af- he can squat 500lb and deadlift 600lb-he has a decent amount of muscle and a very decent physique that requires adequate training. Let's also not forget he has a monstrous 7'0.5 wingspan which helps a lot.
 
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Jon Jones is like 6'4 and 205lbs. He also has a wingspan of 7'1.
Are you really bigger than him? If so thats amazing
Im much bigger than him, he looks like a skinnyfat guy yet hes the best MMA fighter. Insane.

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Do you know what weight classes are?
 
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also ideal fighter muscle is more fibrous, small and dense, they dont consume as much energy and are strong af
 
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Im much bigger than him, he looks like a skinnyfat guy yet hes the best MMA fighter. Insane.

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You do have better insertions and muscle bellies than him, but unlike you I really doubt he trains for aesthetics- also you're not that much bigger than him so chill out.
 
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MMA fighters are usually full of water and carbs after weigh ins.

They're usually in very good shape, and have substantial muscle mass.
 
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You do have better insertions and muscle bellies than him, but unlike you I really doubt he trains for aesthetics- also you're not that much bigger than him so chill out.
That pic is 2 months old and im bigger now, my arms are like twice his size yet he would beat me in a fight. It just proves body doesnt matter much in a fight if he can be the best MMA fighter.

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Wtf dude. Mma fighters aren't skinny fat otherwise they wouldn't be able to punch at all. I think you let fully roided or moderately roided guys cloud your judgement. They have enough muscle mass to deliver plenty of force and that's what matters
 
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you realize "muh fighting success" is about the face, right?
 
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Most UFC heavyweights bodymog you, there's a thing called weight classes lol. The majority of them are also on gear but that is besides the point.
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That pic is 2 months old and im bigger now, my arms are like twice his size yet he would beat me in a fight. It just proves body doesnt matter much in a fight if he can be the best MMA fighter.

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Body DOES matter of course- just in a way that is impossible to improve unfortunately(height,frame,wingpsan,fast/slow muscle twitch fibers). His body is one of the reasons why he's one of the best ufc fighters of all time.
 
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Wtf dude. Mma fighters aren't skinny fat otherwise they wouldn't be able to punch at all. I think you let fully roided or moderately roided guys cloud your judgement. They have enough muscle mass to deliver plenty of force and that's what matters
He doesn't understand the concept of cutting weight for a fight.

Compare sage on weigh in. Completely dried out, etc.
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To during a fight carrying all the extra water he dropped to make weight.

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Im much bigger than him, he looks like a skinnyfat guy yet hes the best MMA fighter. Insane.

17 inch arms lean
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Whats your height, weight, and wingspan?

Also your physique is obviously more aesthetic but that doesn't mean you are bigger than him as a whole. Another thing with jones is that he rarely has fought someone with his own height and reach. Only Gus and Dominick come close and both times he had difficulties. He needs to go up to heavyweight to prove himself as the "best" imho. No doubt he is very successful and talented.

He also is a trained fighter. Fighting to a good extent is a learned skill/technique. Much of his success is actually due to his insane overall size/reach.

Weight, height, and reach are most important. Then your muscle type, natural talent/skill, years of experience, and mental toughness
 
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He doesn't understand the concept of cutting weight for a fight.

Compare sage on weigh in. Completely dried out, etc.
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To during a fight carrying all the extra water he dropped to make weight.

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Sage is gl even by PSL standards, Imagine being a gigaChad UFC fighter, his ego must be massive.
 
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Height and muscles should also give fighting success
sure, but the whole "high fighting success" is a theory about facial features, it doesn't have anything to do with the rest of the body

this is what i'm referring to:
Visualization of the shape regression on fighting success by thin plate
 
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Sage is gl even by PSL standards, Imagine being a gigaChad UFC fighter, his ego must be massive.
Indeed.


Also OP is being purposefully disingenuous, many UFC fighters like Jones purposefully don't gain muscle mass as they try and abuse their height against smaller opponents in same weight bracket.
 
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try and abuse their height against smaller opponents in same weight bracket.
THIS!!!
Especially for height and reach advantages
 
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THIS!!!
Especially for height and reach advantages
He should compare himself to Costa, Romero, TRT Vitor, or Prime Overeem. Muscles are a huge multiplier if you have the fighting style for it. Winning clinches, preventing takedowns, knock out power, etc.

OP should take a look at amateur boxing/mma where most fights are decided by who can overpower their opponent. Literally the more jacked guy always wins. At the highest echelons of the sport things like reach, skill set, and height make the difference.
 
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OP is probably 14 years old if the thinks the dude he posted has an even remotely bad body. His body looks 50x better than the average person's. And he is also roided. Yes, even the "small" guys are roided. I'm not going to get into an argument about this though. Have had plenty of those already.

EDIT: Looks like OP is roided also. Not that I care since it's his liver/heart that he destroying.
 
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OP should take a look at amateur boxing/mma where most fights are decided by who can overpower their opponent. Literally the more jacked guy always wins. At the highest echelons of the sport things like reach, skill set, and height make the difference.
The guys with a higher fwhr also win usually. There was a study on this.
 
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Im much bigger than him, he looks like a skinnyfat guy yet hes the best MMA fighter. Insane.

17 inch arms lean
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HIS REAL HEIGHT IS 6'6 AND HE WALKS AROUND AT 230

WITH THE ARM REACH OF SOMEONE 8 FT TALL HENCE WHY HE LOOKS SKINNY

HE MUSCLE MASS MOGS YOU TO SUICIDE
 
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The guys with a higher fwhr also win usually. There was a study on this.
Yeah I read that study too.

There is a strong correlation between fwhr and muscle mass. Even the fighters who don't carry much muscle do so on purpose, not because they're unable to do so.
 
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HIS REAL HEIGHT IS 6'6 AND HE WALKS AROUND AT 230

WITH THE ARM REACH OF SOMEONE 8 FT TALL HENCE WHY HE LOOKS SKINNY

HE MUSCLE MASS MOGS YOU TO SUICIDE
Brutal
 
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HIS REAL HEIGHT IS 6'6 AND HE WALKS AROUND AT 230

WITH THE ARM REACH OF SOMEONE 8 FT TALL HENCE WHY HE LOOKS SKINNY

HE MUSCLE MASS MOGS YOU TO SUICIDE
hes like 6ft4 and even if he has long arms why is his entire ribcage and shoulder/back region small

just admit he looks like the average dude except long reach, yet he could beat up 300lbs guys
 
hes like 6ft4 and even if he has long arms why is his entire ribcage and shoulder/back region small

just admit he looks like the average dude except long reach, yet he could beat up 300lbs guys

IF YOUR TWINK PEANUT SKULL SAW SOMEONE THIS HUGE AND PHYSICALLY IMPOSING, YOU WOULD SHIT YOUR PANTS SPONTANEOUSLY.

JFL AT SAYING HE LOOKS LIKE AN AVERAGE GUY
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his arms are small noodles and he has a small ribcage

just stop coping u twink hes not big at all, do u live in some ethiopian village
JFL AT SAYING SOMEONE WITH THE BIGGEST WINGSPAN EVER RECORDED AND 230 POUNDS WITH ABS IS SMALL

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JFL AT SAYING SOMEONE WITH THE BIGGEST WINGSPAN EVER RECORDED AND 230 POUNDS WITH ABS IS SMALL

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doubt he weighs 230lbs but most of that weigh would be around his legs hence small upper body. a long wingspan means u need more weifgh to fill out arms
 
>jon jones is skinnyfat
holy fuck lookism users are so low iq
 
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Pretty much all of the top mma fighters do some sort of resistance training. Being physically strong and powerfull is a huge advantage

 
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caved in skull iq thread :feelsuhh:

most top mma guys are small because the huge majority of fighters are at their most competitive in the smaller weight classes. just like how in powerlifting the overwhelming majority of men are in the 181 or 198 weight class so thats why people think powerlifters "don't look like they lift" but if you actually look at who is competitive in the larger classes they are all jacked.

a mid tier super heavyweight mma fighter with some experience could kill conor mcgregor.
 
Unlunless your tom hardy from warrior its cope but good for proving your high t low inhib behaviour but only a but of a halo
No martial arts for your face, martial arts is a skill and not part of your appearance so women don't care at all. I have years of martial art experience but it's just a cope like any other activity.
caved in skull iq thread :feelsuhh:

most top mma guys are small because the huge majority of fighters are at their most competitive in the smaller weight classes. just like how in powerlifting the overwhelming majority of men are in the 181 or 198 weight class so thats why people think powerlifters "don't look like they lift" but if you actually look at who is competitive in the larger classes they are all jacked.

a mid tier super heavyweight mma fighter with some experience could kill conor mcgregor.
Depends
 
Jon Jones is like 6'4 and 205lbs. He also has a wingspan of 7'1.
Are you really bigger than him? If so thats amazing
He cuts weight to 205. He's 220+ in the cage, 230+ out of training camp.

Jones obviously has an above avergae physique compared to the average man on the street. Though his calves are comically skinny.
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so many guys keep spamming ”muh high fighting success” and how important it is in attraction

meanwhile most MMA winners are small af, basically tons of fat and zero muscles

look at this guy, im much bigger than him yet hes the best MMA fighter, with a skinnyfat body. How is that even possible. He looks like the average guy on the street wtf.

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Muscles do matter in a fight to an extent, he's 220+ pounds with abs, he's obviously very physically strong if you've seen him fight or seen him lift.

Women also obviously don't understand fighting, they judge a man's ability to protect her based on height, frame and muscle mass as well as masculinity in the face.
 
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Brb use pics when he’s depleted for a fight no pump lighting and angle fraud. Having a physique and height like Jon Jones in a candid pic is 99 percentile and can’t be compared to a Pic of a Manlet after a shower with a pump flexing
 
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meanwhile most MMA winners are small af, basically tons of fat and zero muscles


I hereby nominate you for having potentially the lowest IQ in the entire forum
 
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Im much bigger than him, he looks like a skinnyfat guy yet hes the best MMA fighter. Insane.

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Much bigger than him? Jones walks around at 250 and his brothers are in the NFL. You'd look like a cuck standing next to him
 
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Fighters tend to be more masculine than men who don't have the fortitude to train. A lot of guys on this site sound like anorexic pussies worrying about cutting to a lower body fat and getting all kinds of surgeries.

On a primal level, women are attracted to a man that can protect them and has the intelligence, confidence, and skills to subdue weaker men that would threaten to take their pussy. If you don't train any martial art, specifically grappling (either wrestling, judo, and or bjj), your muscles are for show and a real man could walk up and take your girl from you while you cry, jerk off, and starve yourself trying to make your little abs show and save your pennies for a nose job.

The only catch is that if you get concussions and cte that can result in low t.

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Fighters tend to be more masculine than men who don't have the fortitude to train. A lot of guys on this site sound like anorexic pussies worrying about cutting to a lower body fat and getting all kinds of surgeries.

On a primal level, women are attracted to a man that can protect them and has the intelligence, confidence, and skills to subdue weaker men that would threaten to take their pussy. If you don't train any martial art, specifically grappling (either wrestling, judo, and or bjj), your muscles are for show and a real man could walk up and take your girl from you while you cry, jerk off, and starve yourself trying to make your little abs show and save your pennies for a nose job.

The only catch is that if you get concussions and cte that can result in low t.

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u sound like a skinnyfat twink who is giga coping

"its not the size of the wave its the motion of the ocean"
 
u sound like a skinnyfat twink who is giga coping

"its not the size of the wave its the motion of the ocean"
Say whatever you like young man. I'm 38 and have fucked a lot of beautiful women. If you don't have any training background, I could son you in front of your girl and there's nothing you could do about it. I don't go around doing stuff like that because I'm not a massive twat, but my point is that I have been on both sides of the fence and without a doubt, I got way more pussy after I started training wrestling, boxing, and bjj. It turned me into a man and women could smell my primal confidence.

I think you're the one coping with your little well defined calvin Klein muscles fag boy.

And for the record, I am skinny fat. I'm not even that great at fighting but I know enough to beat most untrained dudes and it gives me confidence that pulls women.

I get more good pussy than I have time for and I'm poor.

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so many guys keep spamming ”muh high fighting success” and how important it is in attraction

meanwhile most MMA winners are small af, basically tons of fat and zero muscles

look at this guy, im much bigger than him yet hes the best MMA fighter, with a skinnyfat body. How is that even possible. He looks like the average guy on the street wtf.

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How is he skinnyfat? Stop coping
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