Does MSE improve eye area?

[GetThatBread]

Doing research and most of the before and afters were MARPE devices. Only custom MSE was from Ronald Ead. My question is if you already have a PCT but it’s droopy and have dark circles, can that improve greatly with aggressive expansion of MSE?

@Golden Glass @SayNoToRotting @forwardgrowth

 

[nastynas]

since it causes lateral expansion only possible effect to eye area is ipd increase, not the things you mentioned unfortunately

im no expert though, just by logic

 

[Deleted member 3202]

since it causes lateral expansion only possible effect to eye area is ipd increase, not the things you mentioned unfortunately

im no expert though, just by logic

And PFL since it may also be linked to IPD.

 

[Almu]

since it causes lateral expansion only possible effect to eye area is ipd increase, not the things you mentioned unfortunately

im no expert though, just by logic

If you have wide set eyes.Will it make them worse

 

[SayNoToRotting]

Mildly I would assume. Most of the improvment will come from subtle IPD and PFL enhancments.

But there is so much more to what makes eyes good looking.

How compressed the orbitals are and just as importantly- genetic soft tissue formation play just as big of a role..

 

[GetThatBread]

If you have wide set eyes.Will it make them worse

How can you tell if you have wide set eyes

 

[SayNoToRotting]

How compressed the orbitals are

For that I have already developed a highly experimental chewing technique, but you all know about it already.

 

[Almu]

How can you tell if you have wide set eyes

It was a question sorry
But I think if you have a es ratio of like 0.5

 

[GetThatBread]

Mildly I would assume. Most of the improvment will come from subtle IPD and PFL enhancments.

But there is so much more to what makes eyes good looking.

How compressed the orbitals are and just as importantly- genetic soft tissue formation play just as big of a role..

So how would I in turn improve my eye area without the need of Taban? Wouldn’t FacePulling help with the under eyelid? So MSE+FP

 

[Deleted member 3202]

How can you tell if you have wide set eyes

Measure from pupil to pupil then divide it by your cheekbone to cheekbone measurement. 63-64mms is average whilst 59mms is the minimum (unless you have a below average skull size). This is called ESR (Eye Separation Ratio). Also, nasal bridge thickness must be considered as well.

 

[Almu]

For that I have already developed a highly experimental chewing technique, but you all know about it already.

Links pls

 

[GetThatBread]

I just want the same eye area as my cousin I’m 4 inches taller yet he’s a complete slayer due to his top tier eye area

 

[Deleted member 2846]

I just want the same eye area as my cousin I’m 4 inches taller yet he’s a complete slayer due to his top tier eye area

looks nt maxxed

 

[Theonewhowillascend]

I just want the same eye area as my cousin I’m 4 inches taller yet he’s a complete slayer due to his top tier eye area

This is not top tier

 

[Greeicy]

I just want the same eye area as my cousin I’m 4 inches taller yet he’s a complete slayer due to his top tier eye area

His eye area is sliiiiiightly above average, not top tier.

 

[forwardgrowth]

For that I have already developed a highly experimental chewing technique, but you all know about it already.

CANINE CHEWING SIR

 

[Golang]

I'm pretty sure Jaw Hacks posted a video about MSE and its effects in the skull.

He mentioned that it increase the IPD very SLIGHTLY.

 

[needsolution]

Mildly I would assume. Most of the improvment will come from subtle IPD and PFL enhancments.

But there is so much more to what makes eyes good looking.

How compressed the orbitals are and just as importantly- genetic soft tissue formation play just as big of a role..

PFL?
You ded srs bro?

 

[Deleted member 3702]

I just want the same eye area as my cousin I’m 4 inches taller yet he’s a complete slayer due to his top tier eye area

I can’t see the top-tier eye area

 

[OCDMaxxing]

not much, check before after x-rays from @varbrah

 

[BackFromTheMogging]

For that I have already developed a highly experimental chewing technique, but you all know about it already.

Pls tell me too lol

 

[Deleted member 3962]

It slightly expands PFL and IPD

 

[Uglyandfat]

It slightly expands PFL and IPD
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By how much exactly?

 

[Deleted member 3962]

By how much exactly?

5mm at most 1mm at least

 

[GetThatBread]

5mm at most 1mm at least

Did her under eyelid get tighter?

 

[Deleted member 3962]

Did her under eyelid get tighter?

Just get lower lid retraction theory

 

[Cope]

Pretty sure MSE has little to no effect on IPD and PFL

 

[GetThatBread]

Just get lower lid retraction theory

I don’t have another 10K to burn. MSE will help with Zygos and that’s all I need. Hopefully FacePulling/Mask helps with lower eyelid. I believe in @retard and @CopeAndRope

 

[Deleted member 4053]

I don’t have another 10K to burn. MSE will help with Zygos and that’s all I need. Hopefully FacePulling/Mask helps with lower eyelid. I believe in @retard and @CopeAndRope

Are you going to do facepulling during MSE?

 

[GetThatBread]

Are you going to do facepulling during MSE?

If it’s possible yeah. @nelson and @Golden Glass says it is. I was talking is PSL terms the last time I spoke with my ortho and he said “what’s FacePulling?” Next time I’m going to say “reverse head gear”

 

[Deleted member 4053]

If it’s possible yeah. @nelson and @Golden Glass says it is. I was talking is PSL terms the last time I spoke with my ortho and he said “what’s FacePulling?” Next time I’m going to say “reverse head gear”

Keep me posted. I'm seeing my ortho next week and I'm going to inquire about MSE.

 

[Luke LLL]

If it’s possible yeah. @nelson and @Golden Glass says it is. I was talking is PSL terms the last time I spoke with my ortho and he said “what’s FacePulling?” Next time I’m going to say “reverse head gear”

Bro tell them face mask

 

[needsolution]

Pretty sure MSE has little to no effect on IPD and PFL

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IPD is possible but i doubt it can help with PFL in any way. I guess @Brandon10 can ensure us

 

[reptiles]

IPD is possible but i doubt it can help with PFL in any way. I guess @Brandon10 can ensure us

My man's do be kicking people's down

 

[LebenistneHure]

It slightly expands PFL and IPD
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Did she have MSE and how big was her expansion?

 

[Deleted member 3591]

For that I have already developed a highly experimental chewing technique, but you all know about it already.

Where's the thread for that?

Measure from pupil to pupil then divide it by your cheekbone to cheekbone measurement. 63-64mms is average whilst 59mms is the minimum (unless you have a below average skull size). This is called ESR (Eye Separation Ratio). Also, nasal bridge thickness must be considered as well.

Fuck!!! I have 63mm and still look like a cyclopse cause of my bizygo

 

[000]

5mm at most 1mm at least

5mm? What the fuck?