Does thumbpulling work?

[soggra]

Short answer yes it works

The idea behind thumb pulling is to create tensile force on the mid-palatal suture. And yes it is indeed effective. Just as orthodontic devices are effective, thumb pulling is also effective-arguably even more so.

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@Babajohnny

 

[Babajohnny]

Short answer yes it works

The idea behind thumb pulling is to create tensile force on the mid-palatal suture. And yes it is indeed effective. Just as orthodontic devices are effective, thumb pulling is also effective-arguably even more so.

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@Babajohnny

wow this nigga is coping hard

 

[soggra]

wow this nigga is coping hard

Your Low IQ

 

[Babajohnny]

Your Low IQ

yh i saw jordan wood get good results i stopped doing it for abt 3 weeks now everybody on this web says it doesnt work

 

[turneywest]

I'm sick of people calling it cope. It's obvious that it works. It's not about the duration of the expansion, it's about the momentum and force to break the palatal suture.

 

[soggra]

I'm sick of people calling it cope. It's obvious that it works. It's not about the duration of the expansion, it's about the momentum and force to break the palatal suture.

Yep. I also use pliers, I feel it’s stronger than thumbs

 

[turneywest]

Yep. I also use pliers, I feel it’s stronger than thumbs

I've seen this thread too. But the thing is that the shape of the pliers doesn't allow you to do this. Instead of pressing on the area next to the gum, you press on the teeth.

I call these areas on the pliers "ears". This is the area where you put pressure on your teeth.

There are also other forms of pliers.

These ears are not here, but I haven't tried them with those.

 

[turneywest]

I've seen this thread too. But the thing is that the shape of the pliers doesn't allow you to do this. Instead of pressing on the area next to the gum, you press on the teeth.View attachment 3929359
I call these areas on the pliers "ears". This is the area where you put pressure on your teeth.

There are also other forms of pliers.
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These ears are not here, but I haven't tried them with those.

@soggra if you edit the shape of the pliers, it will be suitable for expanding the palate - that is, for breaking the seam.

 

[SamMar]

I've seen this thread too. But the thing is that the shape of the pliers doesn't allow you to do this. Instead of pressing on the area next to the gum, you press on the teeth.View attachment 3929359
I call these areas on the pliers "ears". This is the area where you put pressure on your teeth.

There are also other forms of pliers.
View attachment 3929363
These ears are not here, but I haven't tried them with those.

What thread?

 

[turneywest]

What thread?

Thread '*UPDATED* PLIER PULLING METHOD FOR RAPID PALETE EXPANSION (narrowcels gtfih)'
https://looksmax.org/threads/update...id-palete-expansion-narrowcels-gtfih.1099892/

 

[Smoove]

nigga no lmfao

 

[Deleted member 138051]

Short answer yes it works

The idea behind thumb pulling is to create tensile force on the mid-palatal suture. And yes it is indeed effective. Just as orthodontic devices are effective, thumb pulling is also effective-arguably even more so.

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@Babajohnny

Why people even call it cope in the first place?

I mean I read some thread about it here and even a study about it (not specifically about thumbpulling, but the expansion of the palate by your hands only) and it showed it was cope mostly, since you need way more time and force to actually get significant results than people usually are doing.

 

[soggra]

nigga no lmfao

Explain why it doesn’t work then

 

[SamMar]

Is there any thread that explains more benefits rather than just palete expansion? My palete is well developed, what im lacking is lower jaw.

 

[Smoove]

Explain why it doesn’t work then

for thumbpulling to show the slightest bit of effectiveness youd have to do it constantly nonstop with significant force applied, thats what palate expanders do, they apply constant pressure

but i doubt you're gonna thumbpull with harsh force for hours nonstop thru the day, and that being the case, it doesn't work buddy

 

[Deleted member 138051]

for thumbpulling to show the slightest bit of effectiveness youd have to do it constantly nonstop with significant force applied, thats what palate expanders do, they apply constant pressure

but i doubt you're gonna thumbpull with harsh force for hours nonstop thru the day, and that being the case, it doesn't work buddy

Yeah that’s what i thought aswell.

 

[soggra]

for thumbpulling to show the slightest bit of effectiveness youd have to do it constantly nonstop with significant force applied, thats what palate expanders do, they apply constant pressure

but i doubt you're gonna thumbpull with harsh force for hours nonstop thru the day, and that being the case, it doesn't work buddy

This has already been debunked. Intermittent (cyclical) pressure actually elicits a much better response from the facial bones. Simply put, continuous pressure leads to desensitization of the mechanosensitive cells— such as Piezo channels-making them significantly less responsive over time. As a result, there is reduced activation of the Runx2 gene, which in turn lowers the rate of bone formation at the sutures

 

[Smoove]

This has already been debunked. Intermittent (cyclical) pressure actually elicits a much better response from the facial bones. Simply put, continuous pressure leads to desensitization of the mechanosensitive cells— such as Piezo channels-making them significantly less responsive over time. As a result, there is reduced activation of the Runx2 gene, which in turn lowers the rate of bone formation at the sutures

least obvious chat gpt response

 

[AK1RA]

this the most retarted method promoted by the sub5s god *Oscar Patel*
it could work maybe after 50y of doing it non stop, or never, changing adult skull bone structure isn’t realistic, bone is not like bloating or fat,
Ropemaxxing is better than this shit

 

[cheekbonesforlife]

This has already been debunked. Intermittent (cyclical) pressure actually elicits a much better response from the facial bones. Simply put, continuous pressure leads to desensitization of the mechanosensitive cells— such as Piezo channels-making them significantly less responsive over time. As a result, there is reduced activation of the Runx2 gene, which in turn lowers the rate of bone formation at the sutures

How much time would you suggest to spend everyday thumb pulling?

 

[soggra]

How much time would you suggest to spend everyday thumb pulling?

1-5 minutes every hour

The consistency matters more than the time

For example doing it 1 minute every hour for 12 per day (so 12 minutes a day) would be better than doing for 15 minutes once per day

 

[WastedPotential1]

Short answer yes it works

The idea behind thumb pulling is to create tensile force on the mid-palatal suture. And yes it is indeed effective. Just as orthodontic devices are effective, thumb pulling is also effective-arguably even more so.

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@Babajohnny

Thumb pulling doesnt work you low IQ individual. You'd have to constantly apply force in the same specific area 24/7 while making sure the gap doesnt close. 1 you cant produce enough force with your fingers, 2 if ur bones are fused nothings happening and 3 your not going to be constantly applying force and increasing that force over the course of the day it just isnt happening

 

[soggra]

Thumb pulling doesnt work you low IQ individual. You'd have to constantly apply force in the same specific area 24/7 while making sure the gap doesnt close. 1 you cant produce enough force with your fingers, 2 if ur bones are fused nothings happening and 3 your not going to be constantly applying for and increasing that force over the course of the day it just isnt happening

You’re just making up stuff. You dont know what your talking about

 

[WastedPotential1]

You’re just making up stuff. You dont know what your talking about

I dont know what im talking about? . who are you Jester patel the stupid ginger guy on reddit or baby shitly. Ive researched enough to know thumbpulling doesnt do shit and its fucking common sense IQcels like you could never understand

 

[soggra]

I dont know what im talking about? . who are you Jester patel the stupid ginger guy on reddit or baby shitly. Ive researched enough to know thumbpulling doesnt do shit and its fucking common sense IQcels like you could never understand

All of your claims have already been debunked

For your first claim
Intermittent (cyclical) pressure actually elicits a much better response from the facial bones. Simply put, continuous pressure leads to desensitization of the mechanosensitive cells such as Piezo channels-making them significantly less responsive over time. As a result, there is reduced activation of the Runx2 gene, which in turn lowers the rate of bone formation at the sutures


For your second claim

Most cranial sutures don’t fully close until around 90 years old


For your 3rd claim

clinical studies on animals have shown that only a few minutes of daily loading were sufficient to significantly stimulate suture growth.

 

[underatedgreycel]

I expect better from a 2023cel. Maybe all the years have caused him to go schizo

 

[WastedPotential1]

All of your claims have already been debunked

For your first claim
Intermittent (cyclical) pressure actually elicits a much better response from the facial bones. Simply put, continuous pressure leads to desensitization of the mechanosensitive cells such as Piezo channels-making them significantly less responsive over time. As a result, there is reduced activation of the Runx2 gene, which in turn lowers the rate of bone formation at the sutures


For your second claim

Most cranial sutures don’t fully close until around 90 years old


For your 3rd claim

clinical studies on animals have shown that only a few minutes of daily loading were sufficient to significantly stimulate suture growth.

Fucking hell ur an idiot send sources for all of this right now.

Intermittent cyclical pressure ur clearly confused about. This is the technology used in palletal expanders which still exert constant force which stops the pallet from closing and allows the new bone growth then you have to increase the force and separate again. All this bs about histones and methylation of genes is just random and you have zero sources for it

My second claim is completely correct as sarpe is needed when the palletal bones fuse. No idea why ur coping show ur thumpulling results if its true 90 is an outrageous claim like your body has spare resources to start fusing bones at 90 years old are you sane.

Key word animals do you know what animal? some animals have softer bones than humans easier to move and manipulate if your just going to write senseless claims just delete ur account.

 

[soggra]

Fucking hell ur an idiot send sources for all of this right now.

Intermittent cyclical pressure ur clearly confused about. This is the technology used in palletal expanders which still exert constant force which stops the pallet from closing and allows the new bone growth then you have to increase the force and separate again. All this bs about histones and methylation of genes is just random and you have zero sources for it

My second claim is completely correct as sarpe is needed when the palletal bones fuse. No idea why ur coping show ur thumpulling results if its true 90 is an outrageous claim like your body has spare resources to start fusing bones at 90 years old are you sane.

Key word animals do you know what animal? some animals have softer bones than humans easier to move and manipulate if your just going to write senseless claims just delete ur account.

1st claim source:

Mechanical Signaling for Bone Modeling and Remodeling - PMC

Proper development of the skeleton in utero and during growth requires mechanical stimulation. Loading results in adaptive changes in bone that strengthen bone structure. Bone’s adaptive response is regulated by the ability of resident bone cells to ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

2nd claim source

The 27 Facial Sutures: Timing and Clinical Consequences of Closure - PMC

Facial sutures contribute significantly to postnatal facial development, but their potential role in craniofacial pathology is understudied. Since interest in their development and physiology peaked in the mid-20th century, facial sutures have not ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

3rd claim

Humans are animals btw

 

[WastedPotential1]

1st claim source:

Mechanical Signaling for Bone Modeling and Remodeling - PMC

Proper development of the skeleton in utero and during growth requires mechanical stimulation. Loading results in adaptive changes in bone that strengthen bone structure. Bone’s adaptive response is regulated by the ability of resident bone cells to ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

2nd claim source

The 27 Facial Sutures: Timing and Clinical Consequences of Closure - PMC

Facial sutures contribute significantly to postnatal facial development, but their potential role in craniofacial pathology is understudied. Since interest in their development and physiology peaked in the mid-20th century, facial sutures have not ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

3rd claim

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Humans are animals btw

Brother your an idiot. tell me how from this you came to the conclusion thumbpulling works. This is showing that a palletal expander works or constant force from bands and braces not using your fucking thumbs which is so inaccurate ur bound to make asymmetries even if it does work

Your literally proving yourself wrong

Yh humans are animals. An individual species of animal, jellyfish and humans are both animals insects and humans are both animals wheres the simularities they cant use chimps anymore. Dont tell me they used rats in the study

 

[Deleted member 86015]

for thumbpulling to show the slightest bit of effectiveness youd have to do it constantly nonstop with significant force applied, thats what palate expanders do, they apply constant pressure

but i doubt you're gonna thumbpull with harsh force for hours nonstop thru the day, and that being the case, it doesn't work buddy

Retard

 

[Smoove]

Retard

no elaboration nor a debunk whatsoever, just the insult by itself and called it a go

nice one, joaquin

 

[karba]

Yep. I also use pliers, I feel it’s stronger than thumbs

What about for forward

 

[Deleted member 86015]

no elaboration nor a debunk whatsoever, just the insult by itself and called it a go

nice one, joaquin

I tagged you in a response I did some days ago in other thread.
Also I have strong anecdotal evidence

 

[Deleted member 86015]

This has already been debunked. Intermittent (cyclical) pressure actually elicits a much better response from the facial bones. Simply put, continuous pressure leads to desensitization of the mechanosensitive cells— such as Piezo channels-making them significantly less responsive over time. As a result, there is reduced activation of the Runx2 gene, which in turn lowers the rate of bone formation at the sutures

High iq , true.
Most people saying" muh cope" are stupid they dont even argumentate why just say "saar but you need 24/7 pressure"

 

[soggra]

What about for forward

Push hard with thumbs forward

 

[Deleted member 86015]

Push hard with thumbs forward

Bro Ive been thumbpulling for 1 month+ mewing for 2 years and my skull is now more compact and wider however my midface still long (0.93) because I was a chronic mouthbreather (but it used to be 0.86 2 years ago). Do you think I could potentially reverse the downgrowth by forward thumbpulling with and upward vector? I mean theorycally that coould potentially rotate my maxilla forward and up in some months right?

 

[soggra]

Bro Ive been thumbpulling for 1 month+ mewing for 2 years and my skull is now more compact and wider however my midface still long (0.93) because I was a chronic mouthbreather (but it used to be 0.86 2 years ago). Do you think I could potentially reverse the downgrowth by forward thumbpulling with and upward vector? I mean theorycally that coould potentially rotate my maxilla forward and up in some months right?

Yes, it should give upward and forward growth but you have to do it often, do it at least 1 minute every hour

 

[Deleted member 86015]

Yes, it should give upward and forward growth but you have to do it often, do it at least 1 minute every hour

Yes Ive been doing it from 10 minutes to 20 minutes daily, I might start to do it more tho because it doesnt seem enough

 

[karba]

Push hard with thumbs forward

It hurts