
Ogionth
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Did you even read my reply brother?bro i just showed u proof![]()
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Did you even read my reply brother?bro i just showed u proof![]()
did you even see the pics?Did you even read my reply brother?
I addressed each of the pics in another reply if you care to readdid you even see the pics?
CagingDoing what paranasal implants would simply do with extra steps that won't work, on top of having more risks, not knowing how cw affects your anterior face too.
What the fuck is this, stop writing bullshit from your dreams, it's not divine revelation, you're just schizophrenic.
No, lefort doesn't advance your nasal aperture.
Because these are not simple leforts, lol especially the first one 100% had rhino and the second one, send xrays we'll see because the frankfurt's aint aligned and neither the horizontal rotation![]()
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@Sadist
Paranasal area is fuller from advancement
nah bro they all got rhino or some complex ass lefort trust!![]()
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@Sadist
Paranasal area is fuller from advancement
nah bro they all got rhino or some complex ass lefort trust!
Because these are not simple leforts, lol especially the first one 100% had rhino and the second one, send xrays we'll see because the frankfurt's aint aligned and neither the horizontal rotation
edit: i posted this message before i saw that bro deadass posted exactly the same reply unironically
gigamirin the cope![]()
@Sadist unfortunately if you're retarded I can't do anything with that because not only are you not able to interpret xrays but you believe that lefort brings change in the vertical and horizontal length of the nose, you're mentally retarded and should seek a psychiatrist.
idk about that pic but i guess everyone who gets lefort gets rhino and documents it as just lefort@Sadist unfortunately if you're retarded I can't do anything with that because not only are you not able to interpret xrays but you believe that lefort brings change in the vertical and horizontal length of the nose, you're mentally retarded and should seek a psychiatrist.
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"yes bro the nasal bone disappeared during lefort"
didnt know even the cosmetic surgery section had such retards
@flatcheck213
look at this retard![]()
ur nose curving downwards when smiling is normal right... ur issue is ur eyes u dont have any other problems lolHad this wonderful idea in a dream last night.
Instead of doing parasal implants before rhino, one could advance the maxilla and do a cw roation. this would not give you the dogmaxed look as with cw they shorten it. it might elongate your midface a little but if you dont do it too much it isnt bad.
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What i wanna achive (counter chimp lipp) so getting the nose forward and maxilla forward but not giving you bimaxillary progmatism.
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Could this be the final official solution to the age old problem? (ofc do that before getting a rhinoplasty
Better example higher res
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Second picmis expressionless and shows exactly what i want but yes i also need infra and supras and some fat graftingur nose curving downwards when smiling is normal right... ur issue is ur eyes u dont have any other problems lol
JFL tou literally replied to that pic saying "OHHH I KNEW HE WAS GON SAY THIS"idk about that pic but i guess everyone who gets lefort gets rhino and documents it as just lefort
bare in mind the pics that i posted, before @greycel
when i posted them you literally went quiet for a day before finally coming up with some bullshit cope, and now you can do nothing but throw names around.
i indeed didnt even know the cosmetic surgery section had such retards
i was on about the one before that you retardJFL tou literally replied to that pic saying "OHHH I KNEW HE WAS GON SAY THIS"
i went quite for not a day and very less than a day because i was searching for the xrays and the case reports you stupid idiot and i found one and it literally said rhino and u didnt provide the other two.
holy iqlet
i think u should accept that u have a hardly fixable flaw and move on, not even bad looking, i dont think ur short either just stop being an anime faggot and take some meds or some shitSecond picmis expressionless and shows exactly what i want but yes i also need infra and supras and some fat grafting
It was everything.i was on about the one before that you retard![]()
you stated that lf1 doesnt advance as a whole, never talked about about style. besides, most are stated as regularany xray of the cut style? or any other procedures involved
measuring nasal tip inclination with nwhr, mirinbecause why would lf1 bring a change in this length?View attachment 4139355
is that segmental lefort? because with ur logic, that one isnt supposed to advance the nose either
so? regular isn't quadrangular, quadrangular cut is what brings the most effect.i didnt see this reply
you stated that lf1 doesnt advance as a whole, never talked about about style. besides, most are stated as regular
I'm measuring the lengths you fucking idiot, to indicate that it is physically impossible for lf1 to bring a change in lengths.measuring nasal tip inclination with nwhr, mirin
it also says "rhino" you dumb fucking blind idiot.is that segmental lefort? because with ur logic, that one isnt supposed to advance the nose either
i guess by your logic, absolutely everyone gets anything but a standard cut lefort 1![]()
You again.i think u should accept that u have a hardly fixable flaw and move on, not even bad looking, i dont think ur short either just stop being an anime faggot and take some meds or some shit
Dude.i think u should accept that u have a hardly fixable flaw and move on, not even bad looking, i dont think ur short either just stop being an anime faggot and take some meds or some shit
ok yes but how meaningful will that change be, ur not gonna get bitches based on that change or become htn based off thatDude.
Use your eyes.
Eben the little snippet of the morph looks better.
Fixing nose area, foing genio and rhino with a lipp lift and lipp augmentation after + infras and supras and fat grafts will make my side chad.
As for front. Fst grafts will make uue disapear and i can aufment the radix during rhino. My ipd is 63mm.
for now age 21-23 i do what is realistic. Who knows maybe i do OBO at 27 but i doubt it. Might get lateral canto drill hole though for aome more pfl
no shit, but the point still stands. your original point didnt specify anythingso? regular isn't quadrangular, quadrangular cut is what brings the most effect.
right cause u forgot you can just measure shit in mm through an image with no referenceI'm measuring the lengths you fucking idiot, to indicate that it is physically impossible for lf1 to bring a change in lengths.
no shit, but the point still stands. your original point didnt specify anything
right cause u forgot you can just measure shit in mm through an image with no reference
also just LOOK AT THE TIP you fucking bafoon
how retarded must you be to think that when people with genuine issues who get bimax covered by insurance (which is conservative as shit most of the time btw) automatically get a free rhino on top of it or magically spawn money to get one right after?
Side will be chad.ok yes but how meaningful will that change be, ur not gonna get bitches based on that change or become htn based off that
there's a reason why there were 4 measurements because you ratio it and that's the referenceno shit, but the point still stands. your original point didnt specify anything
right cause u forgot you can just measure shit in mm through an image with no reference
also just LOOK AT THE TIP you fucking bafoon
how retarded must you be to think that when people with genuine issues who get bimax covered by insurance (which is conservative as shit most of the time btw) automatically get a free rhino on top of it or magically spawn money to get one right after?
making ur nose slightly pointer wont even ascend u to htn bro wtf is this coep shitSide will be chad.
Front. You dont even know the morph or the Plan but ofc its htn if not cl.
@Ogionth
Simply doing a high cut lefort 1 moves the paranasal area forward. There's also a special variation of the lefort 1 that's specifically designed to improve paranasal recessionHad this wonderful idea in a dream last night.
Instead of doing parasal implants before rhino, one could advance the maxilla and do a cw roation. this would not give you the dogmaxed look as with cw they shorten it. it might elongate your midface a little but if you dont do it too much it isnt bad.
You dont know the whole morphmaking ur nose slightly pointer wont even ascend u to htn bro wtf is this coep shit![]()
Read thisDude.
Use your eyes.
Eben the little snippet of the morph looks better.
Fixing nose area, foing genio and rhino with a lipp lift and lipp augmentation after + infras and supras and fat grafts will make my side chad.
As for front. Fst grafts will make uue disapear and i can aufment the radix during rhino. My ipd is 63mm.
for now age 21-23 i do what is realistic. Who knows maybe i do OBO at 27 but i doubt it. Might get lateral canto drill hole though for aome more pfl
thats literally not what you use to measure shitthere's a reason why there were 4 measurements because you ratio it and that's the reference![]()
im literally a better rater than you, so what does that make you then?holy shit bro you don't even know basic mathematics, you failed school?
nothing is getting despawned retard, theyre getting moved, hance the cartilage advancementIt's physically impossible to despawn nasal bones during lf1 you fucking idiot
what are u debating?thats literally not what you use to measure shit
im literally a better rater than you, so what does that make you then?
nothing is getting despawned retard, theyre getting moved, hance the cartilage advancement
whether the nose advances/changes shape alongside lf1what are u debtaing?
Mate, how can you not understand that there were 4 measurements so that the first 2 ratio could be compared to the other two thus not necessarily requiring a physically measured standard.thats literally not what you use to measure shit
im literally a better rater than you, so what does that make you then?![]()
nothing is getting despawned retard, theyre getting moved, hance the cartilage advancement
He's a fucking retard, provided pics that had rhino and thinks lf1 fixed their dorsal humps and changed the horizontal widths of their nose jfl.what are u debating?
open your fucking eyesMate, how can you not understand that there were 4 measurements so that the first 2 ratio could be compared to the other two thus not necessarily requiring a physically measured standard.
The "ratio" basically blocks any of the changes contingent that there isn't different lens distortion
How do you not understand this? It's literally basic mathematics
This is my 2nd time telling you.
*Yes, bro, the dorsal hump near the bridge is cartilage* holy shit![]()
That's exactly I'm saying you dumb retard.
Plus why are you not talking about this previous pic anymore?That's exactly I'm saying you dumb retard.
Can you go ahead and search up "Lefort 1 animation" for me so you can escape your 50 iq hell?
its not certain that it will be included in the animation, since most of them only consider the main advancements (ae the maxillary process)That's exactly I'm saying you dumb retard.
Can you go ahead and search up "Lefort 1 animation" for me so you can escape your 50 iq hell?
no doubt some of them do have rhino, but thats only a few cases and theres a lot more of lefort pics without rhino, where you could clearly see the fucking nose changePlus why are you not talking about this previous pic anymore?
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You couldn't even read this, you saw me post this and yet you said *oh it's just lf1*![]()
are you saying that lefort 1 does not advance the nose?He's a fucking retard, provided pics that had rhino and thinks lf1 fixed their dorsal humps and changed the horizontal widths of their nose jfl.
And I literally stated the exact case report of the picture he used and it said rhino![]()
its not certain that it will be included in the animation, since most of them only consider the main advancements (ae the maxillary process)
holy shit not only are you a fucking idiot who unsuccessfully tries his hardest to act smart, but youre genuinely fucking blind, calculating some fuckass ratios when you could literally eyeball he whole fucking nasal tip around the lf1 area advance past the dorsum
fucking hell
No buddy You asserted TWICE that there was no rhino on the pic that had a LITERAL CASE REPORTno doubt some of them do have rhino,
Give up what, when the results you focussed so much on were bogus and you are retarded enough to not concedebut thats only a few cases and theres a lot more of lefort pics without rhino, where you could clearly see the fucking nose change
holy shit actually just give up you silly bastard![]()
Maybe I'll make a whole thread about this someday differentiating cuts of lefort, or explaining upper maxillary projection changes in detail during surgeries
how tf would it dissapear from a lefort 1?But for now lemme finish this with him because he unironically thinks lf1 will make your dorsal hump disappear lol
He also unironically thought that this nose change was due to lf1how tf would it dissapear from a lefort 1?
@Sadist
nasal base did move thoughHe also unironically thought that this nose change was due to lf1
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Then i brouht the actual case reports of this and he couldn't even read them he said something along the lines of "Yeah it's lf1"
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Because it's not just lf1 .nasal base did move though
nobody sait it disappears you fucking retard, the alar base moves forward, making the dorsum less prominentNigga the nasal bone can't disappear from lf1 movement, that's the whole point
youre measuring a whole lot of nothing, YOU CAN LITERALLY SEE THE NOSE SHAPE CHANGEWtf are you even talking about
I'm not tryna act smart, that's how you measure lengths in two pics with the same distortion
holy shit you're so dumb that basic mathematics seems as if someone is trying to act smart
i did read it eventuallynot to mention u couldnt even read a case report
pretty sure that wasnt even a pic i posted, but okNo buddy You asserted TWICE that there was no rhino on the pic that had a LITERAL CASE REPORT![]()
how are they bogus? u only pointed out rhino in one or two of them, whilst i provided way more pics that you couldnt say shit but absolute waffle aboutGive up what, when the results you focussed so much on were bogus and you are retarded enough to not concede
i literally showed you examples but keep copingTheres not a single lefort where the dorsal hump disappeared due to it buddy![]()
(dont even start about the imdo, the lefort is classic)you literally are so stupid because if you just watch the animation of lf1 you'd know
nobody sait it disappears you fucking retard, the alar base moves forward, making the dorsum less prominent
youre measuring a whole lot of nothing, YOU CAN LITERALLY SEE THE NOSE SHAPE CHANGE
i did read it eventually
pretty sure that wasnt even a pic i posted, but ok
i replied to the others and the fact that you even thought the 2 were just lf1 already speaks much of your intelligencehow are they bogus? u only pointed out rhino in one or two of them, whilst i provided way more pics that you couldnt say shit but absolute waffle about
i literally showed you examples but keep coping
(dont even start about the imdo, the lefort is classic)
I literally replied to the other pics, but if you're blind that's not my faultwant more? stubborn faggot
ok keep repeating the same things i guess.you can't comprehend basic mathematics, it's not my fault
i explained it to you twice but u keep thinking that im tryna act smart when it's just basic mathematics
FIRST OF ALL, the case REPORT one WAS LITERALLY POSTED BY YOU JFL HAHAHAHA
DUDES ALSO LYING NOW
and the other one,
you replied to it saying "oh wait hes gonna say this"
and then rejoiced when i said it
as if what i wasn't saying wasn't correct
i replied to the others and the fact that you even thought the 2 were just lf1 already speaks much of your intelligence
Exactly, doesn't remove bone from the nasal hump near the bridge
you didnt even know it was bone
nigga said cartilage
I literally replied to the other pics, but if you're blind that's not my fault