Don't Let Looksmaxxing Cost You Everything

[Alexanderr]

It's 10:00 PM on a Friday night.

Alex, is hunched over his computer, scrutinizing every pore in a dimly lit room, agonizing over his hairline. He's now on page 17 of the looksmaxxing subforum, meticulously planning his next routine, convinced that then, finally, he'll be ready to live.

Meanwhile, Mark's on his fifth beer, belting out an off-key rendition of whatever song is blasting through the speakers, surrounded by friends. Two hours ago, he shared a spontaneous, sloppy kiss with a girl he met just minutes before. Tonight, he's just alive.

Which scene do you see yourself in? Which scene do you want to remember ten years from now?

We're all striving to improve, to reach our full potential. But while we're carefully crafting our routines, obsessing over every detail, something precious is slipping away: our youth. That raw, unfiltered energy, that sense of limitless possibility – it fades with time.

You simply cannot recreate the genuine spontaneity of your teens & early 20s when you’re older, no matter how good you look.

How many of us are postponing living until we reach some mythical "final form"?

We delay gratification, putting off experiences, relationships, and even simple joys.

We tell ourselves, "Once I fix this, then I'll be ready..." Then I'll go to that party. Then I'll ask that girl out. Then I'll finally enjoy my life.

But the reality is: that "end state" is a moving target. It can take years, even decades, to achieve. And what are we left with in the meantime? Regrets.

Billionaires, celebrities – they have everything, yet they reminisce about their youth. It's priceless.

Five years spent dissecting every flaw is five years lost. Take it from me. Years you could have spent building memories and experiencing life's freedoms.

“But I’m too ugly!” Maybe. But will you regret missed experiences more than your looks in ten years? Staying up late with friends, first dates, road trips – these aren't just for Chads. Plenty of normal people experience them.

But let me be clear: this isn’t about abandoning self-improvement. It’s about balance.

Don't let looksmaxxing become an excuse for missing out on life.

Find your balance.

 

[HarrierDuBois]

Good luck enjoying the moment when you're recessed.

Still, the second one is actively deteriorating while the first one is improving. So in 10 years the looking back doesn't matter as the first has a good life due to building up through stability and planning while the second one who lived in the moment will have a worse one.

 

[PeakIncels]

good thread but unfortunately it will all be wasted shit reminding me of the utterly failure I am, this life just ain't for me and partying won't do nun

 

[PeakIncels]

Good luck enjoying the moment when you're recessed.
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that's what I'm tryna say bruh

 

[theonewhorisesabove]

that’s exactly how it is

 

[kalluss]

It's 10:00 PM on a Friday night.

Alex, is hunched over his computer, scrutinizing every pore in a dimly lit room, agonizing over his hairline. He's now on page 17 of the looksmaxxing subforum, meticulously planning his next routine, convinced that then, finally, he'll be ready to live.
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Meanwhile, Mark's on his fifth beer, belting out an off-key rendition of whatever song is blasting through the speakers, surrounded by friends. Two hours ago, he shared a spontaneous, sloppy kiss with a girl he met just minutes before. Tonight, he's just alive.

Which scene do you see yourself in? Which scene do you want to remember ten years from now?

We're all striving to improve, to reach our full potential. But while we're carefully crafting our routines, obsessing over every detail, something precious is slipping away: our youth. That raw, unfiltered energy, that sense of limitless possibility – it fades with time.

You simply cannot recreate the genuine spontaneity of your teens & early 20s when you’re older, no matter how good you look.

How many of us are postponing living until we reach some mythical "final form"?

We delay gratification, putting off experiences, relationships, and even simple joys.

We tell ourselves, "Once I fix this, then I'll be ready..." Then I'll go to that party. Then I'll ask that girl out. Then I'll finally enjoy my life.

But the reality is: that "end state" is a moving target. It can take years, even decades, to achieve. And what are we left with in the meantime? Regrets.

Billionaires, celebrities – they have everything, yet they reminisce about their youth. It's priceless.

Five years spent dissecting every flaw is five years lost. Take it from me. Years you could have spent building memories and experiencing life's freedoms.

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“But I’m too ugly!” Maybe. But will you regret missed experiences more than your looks in ten years? Staying up late with friends, first dates, road trips – these aren't just for Chads. Plenty of normal people experience them.

But let me be clear: this isn’t about abandoning self-improvement. It’s about balance.

Don't let looksmaxxing become an excuse for missing out on life.

Find your balance.

only applies to a certain category

 

[Alexanderr]

Good luck enjoying the moment when you're recessed.
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Still, the second one is actively deteriorating while the first one is improving. So in 10 years the looking back doesn't matter as the first has a good life due to building up through stability and planning while the second one who lived in the moment will have a worse one.

Go to any party, anywhere in the world. What percentage of people there do you think are perfectly non-recessed? This black-and-white thinking is ridiculous. Just because you're not a Chad doesn't mean you're incapable of having fun. Looksmaxxing is a means to an end, but it's not the only means.

 

[HarrierDuBois]

Go to any party, anywhere in the world. What percentage of people there do you think are perfectly non-recessed? This black-and-white thinking is ridiculous. Just because you're not a Chad doesn't mean you're incapable of having fun. Lookmaxxing is a means to an end, but it's not the only means.

Fun is arbitrary, making out with an MTB like the rest of the crowd gives me no satisfaction. People aren't here because they can't get laid due to their faces, they're here because they haven't embodied their own ideals.

 

[ey88]

Markkkkk

 

[Alexanderr]

Fun is arbitrary, making out with an MTB like the rest of the crowd gives me no satisfaction. People aren't here because they can't get laid due to their faces, they're here because they haven't embodied their own ideals.

So what exactly are you arguing against? No one's saying you can't strive for your ideal self. The point is that self-improvement and enjoying life aren't mutually exclusive. What's stopping you from working on your looks while also having experiences, building relationships, and, yes, even making out with someone you find attractive? This isn't an either/or situation.

 

[HarrierDuBois]

So what exactly are you arguing against? No one's saying you can't strive for your ideal self. The point is that self-improvement and enjoying life aren't mutually exclusive. What's stopping you from working on your looks while also having experiences, building relationships, and, yes, even making out with someone you find attractive? This isn't an either/or situation.

From what I've seen play out around me the ones who try to balance it fail miserably and fall into the degenerate hedonist pit where they lose all discipline. When one tries to hold onto two things at the same time, the one that is the easiest to hold onto is the one which shall remain. As for relationships every guy I know that went into one when young descended within a few years and lost all aspirations. Just due to me actively refraining from partying I look better than almost everyone from my previous class despite most of them mogging me just a few years prior. Everyone sacrifices something regardless, balance just means to sacrifice in both ends.

 

[Alucard69]

I'm postponing my life until i get a genio, that's not a ridiculous thing to do i think

 

[IAMNOTANINCEL]

oh hell nah bro started watching hamza

 

[IAMNOTANINCEL]

What's stopping you from working on your looks while also having experiences, building relationships, and, yes,

the reason you'd be working on your looks in the first place... bad looks
combined with mental illness you have 0 chance of enjoying shit

even making out with someone you find attractive?

suddenly turns on mode

 

[truthhurts]

Shit looks like the hieroglyphics
What type of porn did u search up?

 

[Alexanderr]

From what I've seen play out around me the ones who try to balance it fail miserably and fall into the degenerate hedonist pit where they lose all discipline. When one tries to hold onto two things at the same time, the one that is the easiest to hold onto is the one which shall remain. As for relationships every guy I know that went into one when young descended within a few years and lost all aspirations. Just due to me actively refraining from partying I look better than almost everyone from my previous class despite most of them mogging me just a few years prior. Everyone sacrifices something regardless, balance just means to sacrifice in both ends.

That's a pretty sweeping generalization. Just because some people struggle with balance doesn't mean it's impossible. Maybe the problem isn't the concept of balance itself, but the lack of a clear vision and priorities. You can absolutely pursue self-improvement without becoming a monk and enjoy your youth without falling into a "degenerate hedonist pit." It sounds like you've chosen one extreme, and now you're trying to justify it by claiming the other extreme is the only alternative. There's a whole spectrum of possibilities in between.

 

[Alexanderr]

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Shit looks like the hieroglyphics
What type of porn did u search up?

I knew someone would try looking… It was midget porn btw

 

[HarrierDuBois]

It sounds like you've chosen one extreme, and now you're trying to justify it by claiming the other extreme is the only alternative. There's a whole spectrum of possibilities in between.

I have chosen one extreme and had the best outcome lookswise this far, the ones on the other side have had the worst, and the ones in between have had gradually worse depending on how far off from me they were. It's a sweeping generalization because it holds true at large, any other outcome would be an outlier. As for clear priorities, the clearer and greater they are the less room is left for anything else to take up space.

 

[Alexanderr]

I have chosen one extreme and had the best outcome lookswise this far, the ones on the other side have had the worst, and the ones in between have had gradually worse depending on far off from me they were. It's a sweeping generalization because it holds true at large, any other outcome would be an outlier. As for clear priorities, the clearer and greater they are the less room is left for anything else to take up space.

You're defining "best outcome" solely in terms of looks. But what about overall happiness, fulfillment, and well-being? Is looking good worth sacrificing your youth, your relationships, and your experiences? Maybe your definition of success is too narrow.

 

[HarrierDuBois]

You're defining "best outcome" solely in terms of looks. But what about overall happiness, fulfillment, and well-being? Is looking good worth sacrificing your youth, your relationships, and your experiences? Maybe your definition of success is too narrow.

I can't be content with normal. So for me having an MTB gf and doing something mediocre with my life would have me at rock bottom in terms of happiness, fulfillment, and well-being, despite millions of men finding great contentment in that life. I am aware that I am wired slightly differently than most, I am very prone to disconnecting from my body through idealization and I don't mind prolonged periods of deprivation from human connection.

 

[yue]

I don't feel any desire to party anymore

 

[|Daddy_Zygos|]

It's 10:00 PM on a Friday night.

Alex, is hunched over his computer, scrutinizing every pore in a dimly lit room, agonizing over his hairline. He's now on page 17 of the looksmaxxing subforum, meticulously planning his next routine, convinced that then, finally, he'll be ready to live.
View attachment 3229275

Meanwhile, Mark's on his fifth beer, belting out an off-key rendition of whatever song is blasting through the speakers, surrounded by friends. Two hours ago, he shared a spontaneous, sloppy kiss with a girl he met just minutes before. Tonight, he's just alive.

Which scene do you see yourself in? Which scene do you want to remember ten years from now?

We're all striving to improve, to reach our full potential. But while we're carefully crafting our routines, obsessing over every detail, something precious is slipping away: our youth. That raw, unfiltered energy, that sense of limitless possibility – it fades with time.

You simply cannot recreate the genuine spontaneity of your teens & early 20s when you’re older, no matter how good you look.

How many of us are postponing living until we reach some mythical "final form"?

We delay gratification, putting off experiences, relationships, and even simple joys.

We tell ourselves, "Once I fix this, then I'll be ready..." Then I'll go to that party. Then I'll ask that girl out. Then I'll finally enjoy my life.

But the reality is: that "end state" is a moving target. It can take years, even decades, to achieve. And what are we left with in the meantime? Regrets.

Billionaires, celebrities – they have everything, yet they reminisce about their youth. It's priceless.

Five years spent dissecting every flaw is five years lost. Take it from me. Years you could have spent building memories and experiencing life's freedoms.

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“But I’m too ugly!” Maybe. But will you regret missed experiences more than your looks in ten years? Staying up late with friends, first dates, road trips – these aren't just for Chads. Plenty of normal people experience them.

But let me be clear: this isn’t about abandoning self-improvement. It’s about balance.

Don't let looksmaxxing become an excuse for missing out on life.

Find your balance.

botb tbh I need balance I keep fucking myself over by telling myself "I'm not ready"

 

[|Daddy_Zygos|]

bookmark

 

[|Daddy_Zygos|]

and the worst I'm fucking myself by a minimal detail

 

[|Daddy_Zygos|]

that’s exactly how it is
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this I'm my biggest enemy

 

[|Daddy_Zygos|]

Don't let looksmaxxing become an excuse for missing out on life.

Find your balance.

tbh how do I even find balance

 

[LooksmaxAutist]

Yea I'm gonna look back 5 years from now and think "good thing I decided to make out with some random MTB drunk foid who already has put 10+ dicks in her mouth"

 

[KpopmaxxingGuy]

Plenty of normal people experience them.

Normal people don't grow up fatherless and with an inability to smile like a normal human being. Sure, the insecurity is what drives people away, but I would argue that the insecurity would never be an issue if your jaw was in the correct spot like so many others. And normies exponentially gain social capital and experience from the moment they go to school, but some poor schmucks like ourselves have to expend tremendous amounts of effort to get middle-school level socialization experience. I guarantee you that there is no normie with a combo of facial deficiencies and shitty parents.

Go to any party, anywhere in the world. What percentage of people there do you think are perfectly non-recessed?

A great percentage, from what I've seen. I don't think people realize how rare true recession is, like in my case. Not even the cucks at reddit try to gaslight me into believing my side profile is okay, they all tell me I need surgery too, that's how you know it's bad.

 

[HarrierDuBois]

Yea I'm gonna look back 5 years from now and think "good thing I decided to make out with some random MTB drunk foid who already has put 10+ dicks in her mouth"

B-but don't waste your youth bro! Just waste it instead by doing something completely useless that has 0 ROI bro! Because memories n shieet!

 

[watah]

Yea I'm gonna look back 5 years from now and think "good thing I decided to make out with some random MTB drunk foid who already has put 10+ dicks in her mouth"

 

[watah]

B-but don't waste your youth bro! Just waste it instead by doing something completely useless that has 0 ROI bro! Because memories n shieet!

Le heckin parties where u get clobbered by Tall htns bro!

 

[HarrierDuBois]

Le heckin parties where u get clobbered by Tall htns bro!

Soon enough I will be a tall HTN+ and I still won't party. Utterly useless.

 

[efidescontinuado]

Not a single molecule

 

[Stewart]

Find your balance.

This is so real bro I used to not go out cause I was scared of alcohol would looksmin me not even taking into account the BRUTAL social min it was causing me not going out and drinking with friends so many people don't understand how important the BALANCE IS

They forget the original reason they were looksmaxxing - the social circle they never had and just become obsessed over every last part of them and completely forget their original goal

 

[RecessedCel5]

tl;dr prioritize short term gratification because muh youth. the second guy will actually age faster from his lifestyle

 

[Stewart]

That's a pretty sweeping generalization. Just because some people struggle with balance doesn't mean it's impossible. Maybe the problem isn't the concept of balance itself, but the lack of a clear vision and priorities. You can absolutely pursue self-improvement without becoming a monk and enjoy your youth without falling into a "degenerate hedonist pit." It sounds like you've chosen one extreme, and now you're trying to justify it by claiming the other extreme is the only alternative. There's a whole spectrum of possibilities in between.

jfl at anyone that is disagreeing with what should be the biggest water thread - it is honestly sad

 

[Stewart]

tl;dr prioritize short term gratification because muh youth. the second guy will actually age faster from his lifestyle

You will find any excuse to LDAR

 

[Stewart]

The guy that goes out once a week, drinks enjoys a good life style will honestly age better than the incel that rots inside 24/7 lonely and stressed out of his mind

 

[niranjan]

Start looksmaxx when you start puberty to your late teens. By age 20, you should start living your dating /social life.

 

[Alexanderr]

Yea I'm gonna look back 5 years from now and think "good thing I decided to make out with some random MTB drunk foid who already has put 10+ dicks in her mouth"

I'm sure your time spent rotting in offtopic was well worth it.

 

[LooksmaxAutist]

I'm sure your time spent rotting in offtopic was well worth it.

Look at how many posts I have in about a years time, I don't spend that much time on here, having said that I also don't spend my time pursuing meaningless sex with random MTB foids because it's pointless and trashy.

 

[Alexanderr]

I can't be content with normal. So for me having an MTB gf and doing something mediocre with my life would have me at rock bottom in terms of happiness, fulfillment, and well-being, despite millions of men finding great contentment in that life. I am aware that I am wired slightly differently than most, I am very prone to disconnecting from my body through idealization and I don't mind prolonged periods of deprivation from human connection.

You're self-aware enough to recognize your tendency towards idealization and disconnection. That's a good start. Now, use that self-awareness to challenge those tendencies, not to justify them.

 

[Alexanderr]

Look at how many posts I have in about a years time, I don't spend that much time on here, having said that I also don't spend my time pursuing meaningless sex with random MTB foids because it's pointless and trashy.

I think you've misunderstood the point of the thread. It's not about whether or not you have sex, or with whom. It's about recognizing the fleeting nature of youth and finding a balance between self-improvement and actually enjoying your life. Your personal choices are irrelevant to the larger discussion.

 

[LooksmaxAutist]

I think you've misunderstood the point of the thread. It's not about whether or not you have sex, or with whom. It's about recognizing the fleeting nature of youth and finding a balance between self-improvement and actually enjoying your life. Your personal choices are irrelevant to the larger discussion.

And I think you are missing the point I'm making, you use normie degenerate behavior as the archetypal enjoyment of life while you are young, I am criticizing that specifically not saying to actually do shit outside of the forum

 

[Alexanderr]

And I think you are missing the point I'm making, you use using normie degenerate behavior as the archetypal enjoyment of life while you are young, I am criticizing that specifically not saying to actually do shit outside of the forum

Degenerate? By whose standards? Going to a party, going on a road trip, having a first date, experiencing a first kiss – these are normal, healthy experiences. It sounds like you're so deep in the blackpill echo chamber that you've lost perspective on what constitutes a "degenerate" lifestyle.

 

[LooksmaxAutist]

Degenerate? By whose standards? Going to a party, going on a road trip, having a first date, experiencing a first kiss – these are normal, healthy experiences. It sounds like you're so deep in the blackpill echo chamber that you've lost perspective on what constitutes a "degenerate" lifestyle.

Sticking my tongue in a randoms girls throat who I just met 10 minutes ago is degenerate and devalues the nature of sexual activity. Don't misrepresent what I am saying I'm not criticizing a first kiss or a road trip or a date, but going to random parties to lower your sexual standards temporarily is pretty fucking gross

 

[Alexanderr]

Sticking my tongue in a randoms girls through who I just met 10 minutes ago is degenerate and devalues the nature of sexual activity. Don't misrepresent what I am saying I'm not criticizing a first kiss or a road trip or a date, but going to random parties to lower your sexual standards temporarily is pretty fucking gross

It's rather rich you talk about not misrepresenting your point while completely twisting mine. I offered a range of examples of how to enjoy your youth, from road trips and deep conversations to, yes, even a spontaneous kiss at a party.
That single example was meant to illustrate a wider point about connection and experience, not to advocate for some hedonistic free-for-all.
You're fixating on one detail and ignoring the larger message about the importance of balance. Don't misrepresent my argument just because you disagree with one specific example.

 

[LooksmaxAutist]

It's rather rich you talk about not misrepresenting your point while completely twisting mine. I offered a range of examples of how to enjoy your youth, from road trips and deep conversations to, yes, even a spontaneous kiss at a party.
That single example was meant to illustrate a wider point about connection and experience, not to advocate for some hedonistic free-for-all.
You're fixating on one detail and ignoring the larger message about the importance of balance. Don't misrepresent my argument just because you disagree with one specific example.

Because that 1 detail is the same reasoning people use to justify casual sex, you need to have a set standard for who you engage in romantic acts in and it sure as hell isn't with a random foid I just met

 

[ROPEBYATHOUSANDMOGS]

It's 10:00 PM on a Friday night.

Alex, is hunched over his computer, scrutinizing every pore in a dimly lit room, agonizing over his hairline. He's now on page 17 of the looksmaxxing subforum, meticulously planning his next routine, convinced that then, finally, he'll be ready to live.
View attachment 3229275

Meanwhile, Mark's on his fifth beer, belting out an off-key rendition of whatever song is blasting through the speakers, surrounded by friends. Two hours ago, he shared a spontaneous, sloppy kiss with a girl he met just minutes before. Tonight, he's just alive.

Which scene do you see yourself in? Which scene do you want to remember ten years from now?

We're all striving to improve, to reach our full potential. But while we're carefully crafting our routines, obsessing over every detail, something precious is slipping away: our youth. That raw, unfiltered energy, that sense of limitless possibility – it fades with time.

You simply cannot recreate the genuine spontaneity of your teens & early 20s when you’re older, no matter how good you look.

How many of us are postponing living until we reach some mythical "final form"?

We delay gratification, putting off experiences, relationships, and even simple joys.

We tell ourselves, "Once I fix this, then I'll be ready..." Then I'll go to that party. Then I'll ask that girl out. Then I'll finally enjoy my life.

But the reality is: that "end state" is a moving target. It can take years, even decades, to achieve. And what are we left with in the meantime? Regrets.

Billionaires, celebrities – they have everything, yet they reminisce about their youth. It's priceless.

Five years spent dissecting every flaw is five years lost. Take it from me. Years you could have spent building memories and experiencing life's freedoms.

View attachment 3229334

“But I’m too ugly!” Maybe. But will you regret missed experiences more than your looks in ten years? Staying up late with friends, first dates, road trips – these aren't just for Chads. Plenty of normal people experience them.

But let me be clear: this isn’t about abandoning self-improvement. It’s about balance.

Don't let looksmaxxing become an excuse for missing out on life.

Find your balance.

I'm too fucking ugly to have friends nigger

 

[Alexanderr]

Because that 1 detail is the same reasoning people use to justify casual sex, you need to have a set standard for who you engage in romantic acts in and it sure as hell isn't with a random foid I just met

No, I don't think so.

It's a textbook straw man argument. You're misrepresenting my position to make it easier to attack. I presented a range of experiences, and you chose to focus on the one that allows you to indulge in moral posturing.

This isn't a genuine discussion; it's a performance. You're not interested in understanding the argument; you're interested in being right.