[DRAFT] Phenotypes Explained Simply & Phenotype Hierarchy

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Also, I didn't get to the pheno hierarchy


There are races.
Black, White, Hispanic, East Asian, South Asian, Southeast Asian, etc.

In the early 2010s, we've been using race to see how it influences a man's success in dating and society.
But then we realized something as a community.
  • Why is that new Italian kid doing so much better than Gingers? Aren't they both white? They should be performing similarly.
  • Why are these North Indians destroying the Dravidians (dark Indians)? Aren't they both Indian? They should be performing similarly.
  • Why do West African-looking people do worse compared to African Americans? Aren't they both black? They should be performing similarly.
  • Why are Levantine Arabs doing much better than Gulf Arabs? Aren't they both Arab? They should be performing similarly.
This led us to introduce the concept of "phenotype" in blackpill discussion forums when we figured out that race was too broad and needed to be more specific.

A phenotype is a distinct collection of physical traits.
Just like personality is a distinct collection of behaviors.
Just like an outfit is a collection of distinct attire.

For example, a Persian phenotype.

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On http://humanphenotypes.net, the collection of physical traits for this phenotype is:

Light brown skin, straight or wavy, brown or black hair. Medium height to tall, meso- brachyskelic, ectomorph. (Hyper-) dolichocephalic, mildly hypsicranic. Long, hyperleptorrhine, convex / hooked nose. Full lips, sturdy chin with marked facial features, sometimes almond-shaped eyes. Beard and body hair usually heavy.

Using phenotypes, we can be much more specific in describing people's appearances.

Instead of saying "Oh, you're Arab".

We can be more specific and talk about Middle-Eastern/North African phenotypes like Gulf Arab, Persian, Mesopotamian (Iraq-Syria-Jordan), etc.

This way, we can transcend race and be more specific.


Each race has its major phenotypes, and your phenotype determines your success much more than your race does.

For example. If you're white, it's often said here that whites are at the top of the race hierarchy.
But when we get deeper and analyze different white phenotypes, we'll realize that race doesn't explain the whole story.

If you have a Germanic phenotype (physical traits that resemble those from Central Europe)...
You'll do much better than someone with a Ginger or Slavic phenotype (on average)

Again, being black doesn't explain the whole story either.

If you have an African American phenotype (physical traits that resemble African Americans)...
You'll do much better than someone with a West African phenotype (physical traits that resemble West Africans, aka. looking like you just arrived in the West from your African village)

If we split races into their major phenotypic categories, we'll get... (Note that this list doesn't describe all major phenotypes since many of them exist, neither is it ranked)

  • White
    • Anglo-Saxon
    • Anglo-American
    • Franco-Germanic
    • Meditteranean/South European
    • Baltic
    • Slavic
    • Nordic
    • Caucas
    • Ginger
  • Black
    • African Americans
    • Afro-Caribbean
    • East African
    • West/Central African
    • Afro-Latino
  • Middle East-North Africa
    • North African
    • Levantine
    • Mesopotamian (Iraq-Syria-Jordan)
    • Gulf (Kuwait-UAE-Bahrain-Saudi)
    • Persian (Iran)
    • Turkish
  • South Asian
    • Dravidian
    • North Indian
    • Indo-Aryan
  • Latino
    • Castizo (looks 75% White, 25% Native)
    • Mestizo (looks 50% White, 50% Native)
    • Cholo (looks 25% White, 75% Native)
    • Native American (looks nearly 100% Native)
    • Triracial Hispanic (a hybrid of Black, White, and Native, found in the Caribbean and nations bordering the Caribbean ex. Colombia, Venezuela, Puerto Rico)
  • East Asian
    • They're all the same. Chinese, Vietnamese, Japanese and Korean phenotypes are too close to be seperate. So we'll just call this East Asian.
  • Southeast Asian
    • Meditteranean (some SEAs look like they could pass as Southern Europeans)
    • East Asian (some SEAs look like they could pass as East Asian)
    • Lightskinned SEAs
    • Darkskinned SEAs
  • Mixed & Other
    • Mulatto (looks 50% black, 50% white)
    • Native American (US & Canada kind)
    • HAPA (50% White, 50% East or Southeast Asian)
    • Quadroon (75% White, 25% Black)
    • ... any other mixed variant with a distinct phenotype. Sometimes they get very fuzzy with people with unique mixes.
    • ...there are more, it's exhaustive. You get the point though

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Let's make this clear.

To have a West African phenotype, you don't have to be from West Africa.
You don't have to be African American to have an African American phenotype.
You don't have to be from Central Europe to have a Central European phenotype.

You may be mixed race but come out looking Latino, You may be Southeast Asian looking Latino, etc.

Some people even go so far as to get hyper-specific phenotypes such as "Borreby" (someone with a collection of physical traits resembling the borreby phenotype)

You could say someone could have a Puerto Rican phenotype (someone with a collection of physical traits resembling a Puerto Rican phenotype)

It's much more about resemblance than origin.

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Ginger isn’t a phenotype, Slavic ginger and Celtic ginger are way too different to be considered as same phenotype
 
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Bookmark, op
 
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Ginger isn’t a phenotype, Slavic ginger and Celtic ginger are way too different to be considered as same phenotype
Slavic ginger exists?!
 
Ginger isn’t a phenotype, Slavic ginger and Celtic ginger are way too different to be considered as same phenotype
Your pheno looks like a hybrid of Nordic and Germanic to me.
(Saying because you asked for me to tell you in a previous thread)
 
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Can’t find the guy from ig
 
@Niklaus Mikaelson post your Slavic ginger crush
 
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I'M CURRENTLY BUSY (and will be offline for a long while) AND CAN'T COMPLETE IT, SOMEONE FINISH IT. IT'S LIKE 60% DONE.

Get yourself free BOTB!
Also, I didn't get to the pheno hierarchy


There are races.
Black, White, Hispanic, East Asian, South Asian, Southeast Asian, etc.

In the early 2010s, we've been using race to see how it influences a man's success in dating and society.
But then we realized something as a community.
  • Why is that new Italian kid doing so much better than Gingers? Aren't they both white? They should be performing similarly.
  • Why are these North Indians destroying the Dravidians (dark Indians)? Aren't they both Indian? They should be performing similarly.
  • Why do West African-looking people do worse compared to African Americans? Aren't they both black? They should be performing similarly.
  • Why are Levantine Arabs doing much better than Gulf Arabs? Aren't they both Arab? They should be performing similarly.
This led us to introduce the concept of "phenotype" in blackpill discussion forums when we figured out that race was too broad and needed to be more specific.

A phenotype is a distinct collection of physical traits.
Just like personality is a distinct collection of behaviors.
Just like an outfit is a collection of distinct attire.

For example, a Persian phenotype.

iranidm.jpg
iranidf.jpg


On http://humanphenotypes.net, the collection of physical traits for this phenotype is:

Light brown skin, straight or wavy, brown or black hair. Medium height to tall, meso- brachyskelic, ectomorph. (Hyper-) dolichocephalic, mildly hypsicranic. Long, hyperleptorrhine, convex / hooked nose. Full lips, sturdy chin with marked facial features, sometimes almond-shaped eyes. Beard and body hair usually heavy.

Using phenotypes, we can be much more specific in describing people's appearances.

Instead of saying "Oh, you're Arab".

We can be more specific and talk about Middle-Eastern/North African phenotypes like Gulf Arab, Persian, Mesopotamian (Iraq-Syria-Jordan), etc.

This way, we can transcend race and be more specific.


Each race has its major phenotypes, and your phenotype determines your success much more than your race does.

For example. If you're white, it's often said here that whites are at the top of the race hierarchy.
But when we get deeper and analyze different white phenotypes, we'll realize that race doesn't explain the whole story.

If you have a Germanic phenotype (physical traits that resemble those from Central Europe)...
You'll do much better than someone with a Ginger or Slavic phenotype (on average)

Again, being black doesn't explain the whole story either.

If you have an African American phenotype (physical traits that resemble African Americans)...
You'll do much better than someone with a West African phenotype (physical traits that resemble West Africans, aka. looking like you just arrived in the West from your African village)

If we split races into their major phenotypic categories, we'll get... (Note that this list doesn't describe all major phenotypes since many of them exist, neither is it ranked)

  • White
    • Anglo-Saxon
    • Anglo-American
    • Franco-Germanic
    • Meditteranean/South European
    • Baltic
    • Slavic
    • Nordic
    • Caucas
    • Ginger
  • Black
    • African Americans
    • Afro-Caribbean
    • East African
    • West/Central African
    • Afro-Latino
  • Middle East-North Africa
    • North African
    • Levantine
    • Mesopotamian (Iraq-Syria-Jordan)
    • Gulf (Kuwait-UAE-Bahrain-Saudi)
    • Persian (Iran)
    • Turkish
  • South Asian
    • Dravidian
    • North Indian
    • Indo-Aryan
  • Latino
    • Castizo (looks 75% White, 25% Native)
    • Mestizo (looks 50% White, 50% Native)
    • Cholo (looks 25% White, 75% Native)
    • Native American (looks nearly 100% Native)
    • Triracial Hispanic (a hybrid of Black, White, and Native, found in the Caribbean and nations bordering the Caribbean ex. Colombia, Venezuela, Puerto Rico)
  • East Asian
    • They're all the same. Chinese, Vietnamese, Japanese and Korean phenotypes are too close to be seperate. So we'll just call this East Asian.
  • Southeast Asian
    • Meditteranean (some SEAs look like they could pass as Southern Europeans)
    • East Asian (some SEAs look like they could pass as East Asian)
    • Lightskinned SEAs
    • Darkskinned SEAs
  • Mixed & Other
    • Mulatto (looks 50% black, 50% white)
    • Native American (US & Canada kind)
    • HAPA (50% White, 50% East or Southeast Asian)
    • Quadroon (75% White, 25% Black)
    • ... any other mixed variant with a distinct phenotype. Sometimes they get very fuzzy with people with unique mixes.
    • ...there are more, it's exhaustive. You get the point though

(To edit, or remove 🔽)

Let's make this clear.

To have a West African phenotype, you don't have to be from West Africa.
You don't have to be African American to have an African American phenotype.
You don't have to be from Central Europe to have a Central European phenotype.

You may be mixed race but come out looking Latino, You may be Southeast Asian looking Latino, etc.

Some people even go so far as to get hyper-specific phenotypes such as "Borreby" (someone with a collection of physical traits resembling the borreby phenotype)

You could say someone could have a Puerto Rican phenotype (someone with a collection of physical traits resembling a Puerto Rican phenotype)

It's much more about resemblance than origin.

@Lygodactylus @8PSLcel @Br0sk1 @PrinceLuenLeoncur Chadeep@Chadeep @LMSMaxxer @Xangsane @mulattomaxxer @RottenSperg @StrangerDanger @Predeterminism @KING REIDYZ @AscendingHero @Prettyboy @SupremeSubhuman @Mogpogs @Piratecel @PURE ARYAN GENETICS @Preoximerianas @tyronelite @FailedNormieManlet @Lars @Korea @bogii @StreegeReturn @Biggdink @eren1 @Reckless Turtle @Broly Banderas @House Lannister @WannabeJock @Racky @Erik-Jón @heightface @PURE ARYAN GENETICS @Clark69 @ilovelamp08 @St.TikTokcel
@Anstrum95 @TeenAscender @loox @justadude @vaseqmoherad @astatine @Amnesia @Sigmamale @anya @dimorphism @Assyrian_Warrior @FreakkForLife @ThousandCuts @5footsix56 @Alexanderr @HQNPmaxxing @currylightskin @BasedPsychiatrist @´´´´´´´´ @ALP @HOLYFUARK @Chadpreetmaybe @BeenLMSsinceMSN @Kroker @oldcelloser @Tinydragon98 @Hiraeth @ascension! @HimmyButler @latincell95 @Niko @latino_ @capybara @LiteralCaucasian @crimclown63 @Zures @Unsh @reptiles @pneumocystosis @Moggie

@Nation @RIPPED IRL @Saturn @Patient A @dieavirgin @SteveRogers @fogdart @mortis @Clark69 @vaninskybird @Racky @Beastimmung @Prince charming @NegativeNorwood @Shitfacegoodbod=mog @fjor2096 @callisto @Corleone @BasedPsychiatrist @heightface @currylightskin @HOLYFUARK @Anstrum95 @Moggedbyevery1 @StepbroMo @gamma2 @Unsh @Daniel Plainview @teemowhite @luljankybo @bogii @5ft1 @Chadpreetmaybe @latino_ @tesseract @FrameMogger @edward999 @Hiraeth @bleksandre @op463 @NFA PB @HerpDerpson @THEMOGGER @Bezel @norwegiancel @Moggie @ascension! @Frozqen @saulgoodman @crimclown63 @BigBundaSlapper @killaeast @Aypo129 @tbh af @jfbjfb @brea @dimorphism @CT03 @throwaway12902 @Tuxiio @Van @Sprinkles @futuregigamogger @julianchicago @HimmyButler @LiteralCaucasian @gribsufer1 @notrealdanish @Never Give Up! @Euclidious @Sarx @Jim @garoupilled_
You should write a book about this blackpill shit. Make some money from it.
 
OP how do you access drafts bc i have a few but cant seem to find them
 
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White

    • Anglo-Saxon
    • Anglo-American
    • Franco-Germanic
    • Meditteranean/South European
    • Baltic
    • Slavic
    • Nordic
    • Caucas
    • Ginger
  • Black
    • African Americans
    • Afro-Caribbean
    • East African
    • West/Central African
    • Afro-Latino
  • Middle East-North Africa
    • North African
    • Levantine
    • Mesopotamian (Iraq-Syria-Jordan)
    • Gulf (Kuwait-UAE-Bahrain-Saudi)
    • Persian (Iran)
    • Turkish
  • South Asian
    • Dravidian
    • North Indian
    • Indo-Aryan
  • Latino
    • Castizo (looks 75% White, 25% Native)
    • Mestizo (looks 50% White, 50% Native)
    • Cholo (looks 25% White, 75% Native)
    • Native American (looks nearly 100% Native)
    • Triracial Hispanic (a hybrid of Black, White, and Native, found in the Caribbean and nations bordering the Caribbean ex. Colombia, Venezuela, Puerto Rico)
  • East Asian
    • They're all the same. Chinese, Vietnamese, Japanese and Korean phenotypes are too close to be seperate. So we'll just call this East Asian.
  • Southeast Asian
    • Meditteranean (some SEAs look like they could pass as Southern Europeans)
    • East Asian (some SEAs look like they could pass as East Asian)
    • Lightskinned SEAs
    • Darkskinned SEAs
  • Mixed & Other
    • Mulatto (looks 50% black, 50% white)
    • Native American (US & Canada kind)
    • HAPA (50% White, 50% East or Southeast Asian)
    • Quadroon (75% White, 25% Black)
    • ... any other mixed variant with a distinct phenotype. Sometimes they get very fuzzy with people with unique mixes.
    • ...there are more, it's exhaustive. You get the point though
60% done? Ha!

This thread doesn’t even cover 2% of this topic of phenotypes.

just a bunch of words about skin + hair colour and places
 
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whats the best phenotype? i will also be messaging u once im done reading ur threads u linked me, i have an offer for u
 
I am also autistic about phenotypes OP
 
what if my parents have different phenotypes? how would my phenotype will be determined
 
Also @enchanted_elixir you illiterate idiot the region is not called "Caucas", it's Caucasus, and the phenotypes are often very similar to the Balkan ones.
 
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Ginger isn’t a phenotype, Slavic ginger and Celtic ginger are way too different to be considered as same phenotype
Phenotype is the physical expression of your DNA. Simply having red hair is it's own phenotype.

Simply having a long hair on your bum cheek counts as a separate phenotype as someone who looks exactly like you but does not have the bum hair.
 
They're all the same. Chinese, Vietnamese, Japanese and Korean phenotypes are too close to be seperate. So we'll just call this East Asian.
uou couldve at least separated jomons from yayois
 
No mention for me? Me sad.

Ginger isn’t a phenotype, Slavic ginger and Celtic ginger are way too different to be considered as same phenotype

Very true, grouping "ginger" in a single group is like saying every ginger looks like Ed Sheeran lol:

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@LiteralCaucasian guess my pheno
 

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