Drop the most important facial rations and features

[Roge]

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[finn899]

icd (distance between eyes) needs to be between 33-36 mm and philtrum needs to be under 14 mm them 2 are the most important measurements

 

[Tai Lung]

icd (distance between eyes) needs to be between 33-36 mm and philtrum needs to be under 14 mm them 2 are the most important measurements

lifefuel

 

[Roge]

icd (distance between eyes) needs to be between 33-36 mm and philtrum needs to be under 14 mm them 2 are the most important measurements

Afaik eyes set one eye apart is not ideal, icd should be few mm's more than your pfl, right?

 

[Graham]

Neurocranium to splanchnocranium ratio.

 

[finn899]

Afaik eyes set one eye apart is not ideal, icd should be few mm's more than your pfl, right?

yes like 2 mm bigger then your pfl to look balanced,if somebody has a 34 mm icd they should have around 36 mm pfl

 

[Roge]

Neurocranium to splanchnocranium ratio.

Elab how to measure?

 

[Deleted member 19968]

yes like 2 mm bigger then your pfl to look balanced,if somebody has a 34 mm icd they should have around 36 mm pfl

he meant bigger icd than pfl

 

[Roge]

yes like 2 mm bigger then your pfl to look balanced,if somebody has a 34 mm icd they should have around 36 mm pfl

I've read that it should be +≈10% of pfl. To measure pfl, what size of iris I should use in calculations?

 

[Deleted member 19968]

I've read that it should be +≈10% of pfl. To measure pfl, what size of iris I should use in calculations?

Caliper.

 

[Roge]

he meant bigger icd than pfl

He probably meant the same

 

[Deleted member 19968]

Id say 112-120 ish gonial would set up for a good base.

 

[Roge]

Caliper.

Dont have it rn, the size of iris is different for anyone, but I know that in 2d picture my pfl is ≈2.65 iris's

 

[Deleted member 19968]

Dont have it rn, the size of iris is different for anyone, but I know that in 2d picture my pfl is ≈2.65 iris's

How much mm is an iris?

 

[Roge]

Id say 112-120 ish gonial would set up for a good base.

Yeah, thats my problem, i have more or at least it looks like more because of my gigachin

 

[thecel]

icd (distance between eyes) needs to be between 33-36 mm and philtrum needs to be under 14 mm them 2 are the most important measurements

how can I cope with 20 mm philtrum

 

[Roge]

How much mm is an iris?

Internet says 11-13mm

 

[finn899]

He probably meant the same

if pfl and icd are the same thats close set unless you have almond eyes then it will look natural

 

[Akhi]

facial thirds, fwhr, esr

and the ratio of bygonial to byzygo and upper third width

if any of these are bad it ruins the whole face

 

[finn899]

how can I cope with 20 mm philtrum

be tall and have a longish face especially chin/jaw then it will look close to normal

 

[SeriousAscension]

for males midface ratio, pfl to pfh, bizygomatic to bigonial width, brow ridge inclination, side profile angle (if convex or concave), fwthr ratio

 

[Roge]

if pfl and icd are the same thats close set unless you have almond eyes then it will look natural

I have pfl in mirror selfie of ≈2.65 iris's, how much mm's should I multiply it ?

 

[Deleted member 19968]

Internet says 11-13mm

Buddy these mms make a large ass difference lmfao. If u have 2.65 irises but ur iris is 11mm that means 29mm pfl, but if 2.65 irises but 13mm iris that means 34.5mm

 

[thecel]

be tall and have a longish face especially chin/jaw then it will look close to normal

I already have a horseface, and it still looks long

btw I’m MtF so long face is death tier for me

 

[finn899]

I already have a horseface, and it still looks long

btw I’m MtF

whats mft?

 

[thecel]

whats mft?

 

[Deleted member 19968]

Facial thirds, ESR, FWHR, Jaw frontal angle, cheekbone setness ( way more important than prominence it signals good face development and aesthetic look ).

 

[finn899]

Buddy these mms make a large ass difference lmfao. If u have 2.65 irises but ur iris is 11mm that means 29mm pfl, but if 2.65 irises but 13mm iris that means 34.5mm

when you say pfl do you count the outside of the eyelid like this? or you just measure from medium canthis to the end of the eye?

 

[Roge]

facial thirds, fwhr, esr

and the ratio of bygonial to byzygo and upper third width

if any of these are bad it ruins the whole face

Drop ideal fwhr and esr
I've literally grabbed my xiaomi and took mirror selfie 2 mins ago, measured at 2.07 for fwhr and 0.466 for esr
Slayer or subhuman ratios?

 

[Roge]

Buddy these mms make a large ass difference lmfao. If u have 2.65 irises but ur iris is 11mm that means 29mm pfl, but if 2.65 irises but 13mm iris that means 34.5mm

Exactly what I'm saying, dont know what I should imply

 

[anthony111553]

thick black eyebrows, if you don't have it rope, Also Fwhr

 

[Deleted member 19968]

thick black eyebrows, if you don't have it rope, Also Fwhr

How is that a ratio ?

 

[Roge]

Facial thirds, ESR, FWHR, Jaw frontal angle, cheekbone setness ( way more important than prominence it signals good face development and aesthetic look ).

Drop ideal fwhr and esr
I've literally grabbed my xiaomi and took mirror selfie 2 mins ago, measured at 2.07 for fwhr and 0.466 for esr
Slayer or subhuman ratios?

Amd how do I know setness of cheekbones

 

[Roge]

thick black eyebrows, if you don't have it rope, Also Fwhr

Drop ideal fwhr

 

[anthony111553]

How is that a ratio ?

it said ratio and features

 

[Deleted member 19968]

Drop ideal fwhr and esr
I've literally grabbed my xiaomi and took mirror selfie 2 mins ago, measured at 2.07 for fwhr and 0.466 for esr
Slayer or subhuman ratios?

1.9-2.06 fwhr, 0.443-0.477 esr exact ideal is 0.46 but its a range

 

[Akhi]

Drop ideal fwhr and esr
I've literally grabbed my xiaomi and took mirror selfie 2 mins ago, measured at 2.07 for fwhr and 0.466 for esr
Slayer or subhuman ratios?

fwhr ideal is 1.9-2.2 and esr is 0.465

that doesnt mean youre gl tho, just that you dont have these failoes

 

[Roge]

when you say pfl do you count the outside of the eyelid like this? or you just measure from medium canthis to the end of the eye?View attachment 2672937

I measure from the start of my medial canthus (it dont have sclera to the end of sclera in the outer corner

 

[Roge]

fwhr ideal is 1.9-2.2 and esr is 0.465

that doesnt mean youre gl tho, just that you dont have these failoes

Good for my self esteem i guess

 

[finn899]

I measure from the start of my medial canthus (it dont have sclera to the end of sclera in the outer corner

of but you go from medial to the end of scalera or do you count the eyelid past the scalera>?

 

[Roge]

of but you go from medial to the end of scalera or do you count the eyelid past the scalera>?

Just end of sclera

 

[Deleted member 19968]

when you say pfl do you count the outside of the eyelid like this? or you just measure from medium canthis to the end of the eye?View attachment 2672937

PFL is this. White sclera ( exocanthion to inner canthus)

 

[Akhi]

Good for my self esteem i guess

send face

 

[Roge]

PFL is this. White sclera ( exocanthion to inner canthus)

Yeah, i measure from #3 to end of sclera in outer corner

 

[Deleted member 19968]

Drop ideal fwhr and esr
I've literally grabbed my xiaomi and took mirror selfie 2 mins ago, measured at 2.07 for fwhr and 0.466 for esr
Slayer or subhuman ratios?

If u have that esr with that big ass fwhr, u likely have squished midface or fucked up midface ratio or something.

 

[finn899]

Yeah, i measure from #3 to end of sclera in outer corner

ok thats what i thought it was just making sure

 

[Roge]

send face

Sorry but wont do it now, maybe later this year

 

[Roge]

If u have that esr with that big ass fwhr, u likely have squished midface or fucked up midface ratio or something.

My midface ratio is 1.07 on the same photo, measuring like retard with ruler on top of my phone now

 

[Deleted member 19968]

My midface ratio is 1.07 on the same photo

What about total fwhr?

 

[Roge]

What about total fwhr?

How to measure