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Ranking rec and looksmax substances I have used, kinda of an oldcel for this forum standards so I have quite the experience. Basically anything I have not tried I either view as too much of a helathmin or I am just not interested in. (all hypothetical ofc this tier list is just my theory's on the effects for the feds watching)
Besides
HGH, reta, low dose tren, IGF-1, and a few stimulants
What a makes a substance good?
I am going to rank a substance based on two things, how much of a health min is it, and how well it does its intended effect.
For rec drugs I mostly care about being low inhib and euphoric, and how often I can take it/ if I need to cycle it
SS tier test and dut, accutane
Throw in reta and GH and this is the hold grail for looks maxing, God's gifts to incels, these things ascended me so hard after my post gymcel era especially the dut and accutane. Every single user should at LEAST be on dut and test, and a low does of accutane for mog anti aging. GH and reta is on the way for elite leanmaxxing. I have had no sides from test+dut almost all sides especially for dut are just copes. Accutane mogs every acne treatment so fucking hard it's not even a debate.
S tier
Cilias, RU, megadoes melatonin
Cillias mogs viagra, longer half life and I feel the effects all day. I take cilias everyday, underrated health max to. Great pumps in the gym and makes it impossible to have ED even on rec drugs. RU is great I am just giga lazy and pulling that shit out of the fridge and having to put on my scalp is a pain in the ass sometimes, not as much as pinning ofc. Megaadoes melatonin is great healthmax and my sleep is great. My liver enzymes were in range despite being on orals and accutane plus drinking in college. The dreams are pretty insane at first but I got over it quick.
A tier
Var, lgd, MT2, Semax, GHK-CU
love var especially in a cut, only issue I have is it can't take it forever, lgd imo is the only sarm I would take again, especially in a bulk again same issue with var I can't take it forever. Both of these I get positive mental sides, on Var I just feel more mogger, idk how to describe but my BDD goes down, on LGD I feel a great increase in mood too, and helps me not feel like shit since I take it when a bulk. MT2 works very well, but it is hard for me to maintain a constant tan with it, but talking it 6 weeks give me great coloring, it is just maintaining that coloring that proved difficult. I am going to try again once I lower my accutane dose and when PIE fades, that the other problem is you can't take it with an uneven skin tone. I have only been taking semax for I week but I quite like it, makes me more productive for school, plus I can take it everyday. Do not expect addy tier results, It is like a better caffeine for me. GHK-CU is good I like it, not the effective at clearing acne but I have noticed that my PIE is fading quicker then anticipated an my skin looks pretty mog after like 12 weeks, just same thing as MT2 that pinning Dailey Is a pain in the ass
B tier:
Pregab+baclofen, nic
my favorite low inhib stack, I feel great and have zero inhib. The only problem is it is additive so I limit myself to once every 5 days at the minimum, if I could take it more often without rapidly building a tolerance I would. Also a plus it does not get processed through the liver which is already strained from orals+accutane. I do like Nic, it gives me a nice social buzz and good for School, kinda the same issue has pregab but to a lesser extent about having to monitor my use to make sure I don't develop a dependence. I use the pouches for day to day use.
C tier:
Alc, rad-140, Ostarine
Alc is the most used rec drug for a reason, it works at lowering your inhib, however it is just a huge looks min and health min, the negative effects on gym celling is just too much for me to justify. Plus the calories in it. Rad defiantly works, but it give me cripple anxiety even on pretty low doses, I was giga paranoid like looking at of my window thinking the feds were going to intercept my Dutasteride package tier. But the gains were there. ostarine was the first sarm/roid I ever touched, it is what you expect a slight increase in performance with a good effect on your mental. Just not an enough to justify buying it in my opinion.
D tier:
Xanax, GHB
Tried both once, just made me feel giga low iq and tired, in high school my drink was spiked with GHB that is my only experience rofl. But they are quite euphoric just makes you so retarded that I could barely get words out.
F tier:
Weed
The drug of incels (at least for me) I have heard time in time again "It makes me productive." there is a difference between being able to work, and being at maximum work ethic and brain power. I smoked Dailey from like from late HS through first year of college, I finally quite like 6 months ago. I always coping about being able to function while high, I do such more work, in less amount of time, dropped a bunch of bad habits like porn and frequently playing video games since quitting. I feel much more social since stopping, My biggest thing I recommend is for all users to at least see how they feel. I do not have any urges to smoke weed since I quit, life in general is a night and day difference.
Besides
HGH, reta, low dose tren, IGF-1, and a few stimulants
What a makes a substance good?
I am going to rank a substance based on two things, how much of a health min is it, and how well it does its intended effect.
For rec drugs I mostly care about being low inhib and euphoric, and how often I can take it/ if I need to cycle it
SS tier test and dut, accutane
Throw in reta and GH and this is the hold grail for looks maxing, God's gifts to incels, these things ascended me so hard after my post gymcel era especially the dut and accutane. Every single user should at LEAST be on dut and test, and a low does of accutane for mog anti aging. GH and reta is on the way for elite leanmaxxing. I have had no sides from test+dut almost all sides especially for dut are just copes. Accutane mogs every acne treatment so fucking hard it's not even a debate.
S tier
Cilias, RU, megadoes melatonin
Cillias mogs viagra, longer half life and I feel the effects all day. I take cilias everyday, underrated health max to. Great pumps in the gym and makes it impossible to have ED even on rec drugs. RU is great I am just giga lazy and pulling that shit out of the fridge and having to put on my scalp is a pain in the ass sometimes, not as much as pinning ofc. Megaadoes melatonin is great healthmax and my sleep is great. My liver enzymes were in range despite being on orals and accutane plus drinking in college. The dreams are pretty insane at first but I got over it quick.
A tier
Var, lgd, MT2, Semax, GHK-CU
love var especially in a cut, only issue I have is it can't take it forever, lgd imo is the only sarm I would take again, especially in a bulk again same issue with var I can't take it forever. Both of these I get positive mental sides, on Var I just feel more mogger, idk how to describe but my BDD goes down, on LGD I feel a great increase in mood too, and helps me not feel like shit since I take it when a bulk. MT2 works very well, but it is hard for me to maintain a constant tan with it, but talking it 6 weeks give me great coloring, it is just maintaining that coloring that proved difficult. I am going to try again once I lower my accutane dose and when PIE fades, that the other problem is you can't take it with an uneven skin tone. I have only been taking semax for I week but I quite like it, makes me more productive for school, plus I can take it everyday. Do not expect addy tier results, It is like a better caffeine for me. GHK-CU is good I like it, not the effective at clearing acne but I have noticed that my PIE is fading quicker then anticipated an my skin looks pretty mog after like 12 weeks, just same thing as MT2 that pinning Dailey Is a pain in the ass
B tier:
Pregab+baclofen, nic
my favorite low inhib stack, I feel great and have zero inhib. The only problem is it is additive so I limit myself to once every 5 days at the minimum, if I could take it more often without rapidly building a tolerance I would. Also a plus it does not get processed through the liver which is already strained from orals+accutane. I do like Nic, it gives me a nice social buzz and good for School, kinda the same issue has pregab but to a lesser extent about having to monitor my use to make sure I don't develop a dependence. I use the pouches for day to day use.
C tier:
Alc, rad-140, Ostarine
Alc is the most used rec drug for a reason, it works at lowering your inhib, however it is just a huge looks min and health min, the negative effects on gym celling is just too much for me to justify. Plus the calories in it. Rad defiantly works, but it give me cripple anxiety even on pretty low doses, I was giga paranoid like looking at of my window thinking the feds were going to intercept my Dutasteride package tier. But the gains were there. ostarine was the first sarm/roid I ever touched, it is what you expect a slight increase in performance with a good effect on your mental. Just not an enough to justify buying it in my opinion.
D tier:
Xanax, GHB
Tried both once, just made me feel giga low iq and tired, in high school my drink was spiked with GHB that is my only experience rofl. But they are quite euphoric just makes you so retarded that I could barely get words out.
F tier:
Weed
The drug of incels (at least for me) I have heard time in time again "It makes me productive." there is a difference between being able to work, and being at maximum work ethic and brain power. I smoked Dailey from like from late HS through first year of college, I finally quite like 6 months ago. I always coping about being able to function while high, I do such more work, in less amount of time, dropped a bunch of bad habits like porn and frequently playing video games since quitting. I feel much more social since stopping, My biggest thing I recommend is for all users to at least see how they feel. I do not have any urges to smoke weed since I quit, life in general is a night and day difference.
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