Dutasteride mogs so hard finasteride and has less sides and theres no point of using fin 1 mg oral

[Deleted member 85787]

Both have the same side effects; there are scientific studies demonstrating the same 1-2% incidence of side effects. In fact, in some respects, dutasteride has been shown to have even fewer side effects because it slightly increases testosterone.

So what's the point of using finasteride if it not inhibits DHT so much, and then using dutasteride 0.5 mg directly and then scaling back to lower doses?

 

[Prøphet]

Those studies are fake asf ngl

 

[Deleted member 85787]

Those studies are fake asf ngl

I asked chat gbt and he say that microdosage of dutasteride works better than 1 mg oral finasteride and produces fewer side effects.

Dutasteride is the latest best drug against hair loss.

 

[Deleted member 85787]

If you're still using finasteride to save money you're an idiot in my opinion when there are better options like DUT

 

[VampyrMaxx]

what is that username. Like, out of anything you couldve picked, you picked that username

 

[Deleted member 85787]

what is that username. Like, out of anything you couldve picked, you picked that username

Its high T

 

[qloadd]

i started using finasteride 1 mg per day to ofc prevent hair loss but as well for the skin benefits however i also have dut 0.5 mg, should I just use dut since it inhibits type 1 which is more for skin, i just gotta keep buying ts tho cause its 0.5 mg x 100, I don’t wanna keep buying shipments where as my fin is 5 mg x 100, so when taking 1 mg it lasts 500 days

 

[Deleted member 85787]

i started using finasteride 1 mg per day to ofc prevent hair loss but as well for the skin benefits however i also have dut 0.5 mg, should I just use dut since it inhibits type 1 which is more for skin, i just gotta keep buying ts tho cause its 0.5 mg x 100, I don’t wanna keep buying shipments where as my fin is 5 mg x 100, so when taking 1 mg it lasts 500 days

you shoulde use DUT 2/3 times a week, its superior than fin and have less side effects its the best protocol

 

[Deleted member 110192]

Both have the same side effects; there are scientific studies demonstrating the same 1-2% incidence of side effects. In fact, in some respects, dutasteride has been shown to have even fewer side effects because it slightly increases testosterone.

So what's the point of using finasteride if it not inhibits DHT so much, and then using dutasteride 0.5 mg directly and then scaling back to lower doses?

Only reason to use fin is because of money.

 

[qloadd]

yea great point I wasn’t sure if you needed to take it daily since I seen people do daily, tho I assume this dose is if you have aggressive hair loss or some shit, I have hella thick hair 2-3 x a week seems solid especially considering it’s long half life

w thread

 

[Jager]

Both have the same side effects; there are scientific studies demonstrating the same 1-2% incidence of side effects. In fact, in some respects, dutasteride has been shown to have even fewer side effects because it slightly increases testosterone.

So what's the point of using finasteride if it not inhibits DHT so much, and then using dutasteride 0.5 mg directly and then scaling back to lower doses?

Water

 

[Deleted member 85787]

yea great point I wasn’t sure if you needed to take it daily since I seen people do daily, tho I assume this dose is if you have aggressive hair loss or some shit, I have hella thick hair 2-3 x a week seems solid especially considering it’s long half life

w thread

Yes, the long half-life is another advantage of dutasteride over finasteride, which has a short half-life and more or less produces the same side effects and the same efficacy at any dose.

 

[qloadd]

100% I’ll definitely take the switch i was just researching about it yesterday since I was wondering if I should cause the skin benefits seem amazing,dut is such a mogger compound prevent hair loss, slightly raise your test, and anti aging properties due to it being much more potent at nuking dht especially (type 1) sebaceous glands.


how ever I also don’t wanna waste my finasteride lmao should I run both or is that just retarded will do my research and see if it’s a good idea

 

[qloadd]

for example dut 2-3x a week, and fin on days I don’t use dut, seems pretty overkill tho

 

[Deleted member 86877]

Thoughs on this?
@chadisbeingmade

 

[chadisbeingmade]

Thoughs on this?
@chadisbeingmade

Finasteride is a redundant since Dut exists.

 

[Deleted member 138051]

Both have the same side effects; there are scientific studies demonstrating the same 1-2% incidence of side effects. In fact, in some respects, dutasteride has been shown to have even fewer side effects because it slightly increases testosterone.

So what's the point of using finasteride if it not inhibits DHT so much, and then using dutasteride 0.5 mg directly and then scaling back to lower doses?

For some people fin is enough and they have no reason to spend more money on dut

 

[TESTOmax]

Both have the same side effects; there are scientific studies demonstrating the same 1-2% incidence of side effects. In fact, in some respects, dutasteride has been shown to have even fewer side effects because it slightly increases testosterone.

So what's the point of using finasteride if it not inhibits DHT so much, and then using dutasteride 0.5 mg directly and then scaling back to lower doses?

Dut is not enough

Combine with oral minoxidil
and Pyrilutamide

-> have better hair then when you were 10 yo

 

[Deleted member 138051]

Dut is not enough

Combine with oral minoxidil
and Pyrilutamide

-> have better hair then when you were 10 yo

and have a bloat of doom and despair and a skin of a 60 year old.

Oral minoxidil is not good. Only way to keep your hair is to use RU, dut and topical minoxidil paired with derma rolling.

Also RU mogs Pyrilutamide

 

[pentamogged9000]

both ARE retarded

 

[Deleted member 138051]

both ARE retarded

Why you think so?

 

[pentamogged9000]

Why you think so?

CHOLINERGIC

 

[Deleted member 180697]

I tolerate dut well. I take 0.5mg daily. I'm confident that I could take 2.5mg without sides. The only reason I'm not taking such a high dose is because it's expensive af.

 

[Deleted member 180697]

both ARE retarded

letting yourself go bald is the most retarded thing that you can do.

 

[Deleted member 85787]

I tolerate dut well. I take 0.5mg daily. I'm confident that I could take 2.5mg without sides. The only reason I'm not taking such a high dose is because it's expensive af.

have you ever thought of combining dut with RU? 2.5 mg is not suistanable for sides

 

[Deleted member 180697]

have you ever thought of combining dut with RU?

I'm combining it with oral min atm. I'll probably need to start experimenting with topical anti androgens because I have an aggressive balding pattern. I am diffuse thinning everywhere on my scalp, back and sides are the most affected.

 

[mogmypsl999]

If I want to start, can I hop on 0.5 mg Dut, or do I need to start with Fin first to get used to it? Does it matter?

 

[chadisbeingmade]

2.5 mg is not suistanable for sides

5x the dosage does not mean 5x the sides. Serum levels barely change, yet scalp levels decrease by an extra ~30%.

back and sides are the most affected.

If they are affected it’s not only AGA most likely. Back and sides (apart from maybe temple peaks) wouldn’t be affected.

 

[Deleted member 180697]

5x the dosage does not mean 5x the sides. Serum levels barely change, yet scalp levels decrease by an extra ~30%.


If they are affected it’s not AGA most likely. I’ll assume you meant unaffected.

No, most affected. The top is thicker than the back and sides.

 

[chadisbeingmade]

No, most affected. The top is thicker than the back and sides.

You got some other shit going on then.

Get a high skin fade JFL or the Peaky Blinders trim

 

[Deleted member 180697]

You got some other shit going on then.

Get a high skin fade JFL or the Peaky Blinders trim
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[vtribal]

most can get away with finasteride first. no need to nuke 95% of dht when u can nuke 70% and be fine. once fin starts losing effectiveness then go dut

 

[TESTOmax]

and have a bloat of doom and despair and a skin of a 60 year old.

Oral minoxidil is not good. Only way to keep your hair is to use RU, dut and topical minoxidil paired with derma rolling.

Also RU mogs Pyrilutamide

Pyrilutamide moggs ru because it has no side effects

Topical minox bloats too, doesn't matter

don't pair dermaroll with a topical anti androgen LOL

 

[Deleted member 180697]

most can get away with finasteride first. no need to nuke 95% of dht when u can nuke 70% and be fine. once fin starts losing effectiveness then go dut

It's a nice cope knowing that you have a stronger 5AR inhibitor to switch to, but for most guys with actual real hair loss, fin won't be enough long term. High doses of dut combined with other meds are needed for long term maintenance.

Those guys that claim to have frozen their hair loss for 20 years on fin were probably never going bald in the first place. Rob Lowe is a good example of this. He probably only prevented himself from going from NW1 to NW2. The guy was never going to go bald.

 

[Prettyboy]

It's a nice cope knowing that you have a stronger 5AR inhibitor to switch to, but for most guys with actual real hair loss, fin won't be enough long term. High doses of dut combined with other meds are needed for long term maintenance.

Those guys that claim to have frozen their hair loss for 20 years on fin were probably never going bald in the first place. Rob Lowe is a good example of this. He probably only prevented himself from going from NW1 to NW2. The guy was never going to go bald.

That’s why I believe many here have a false sense of safety knowing that i hop on fin they will have a juvenile hairline until the grave.

From multiple anecdotes I’ve encountered irl guys and consulting with hair transplant surgeons, guys who start to show signs of MBP in their teens are pretty much fucked.

5 aRI inhibitors are really not the miracle some may claim them to be and the demographic that can effectively utilize them is much slimmer than most guys here think. Truth is it’s almost all about genes, if your father is nw7, even 2.5 mg of Duta may do nothing.

 

[wtiera]

 

[wtiera]

and have a bloat of doom and despair and a skin of a 60 year old.

Oral minoxidil is not good. Only way to keep your hair is to use RU, dut and topical minoxidil paired with derma rolling.

Also RU mogs Pyrilutamide

Oral Minox will make you age ? I'm taking 2.5mg rn for brow/lash grow should I stop ?

@chadisbeingmade I would love to have your opinion as well

 

[chadisbeingmade]

Oral Minox will make you age ? I'm taking 2.5mg rn for brow/lash grow should I stop ?

@chadisbeingmade I would love to have your opinion as well

Will bloat you to hell and back. I stopped minox over a year ago now after being on for 2 years. No regrets at all.

 

[wtiera]

Will bloat you to hell and back. I stopped minox over a year ago now after being on for 2 years. No regrets at all.

Thanks man.

Did you notice some gains on lashes/brows after 2 years of use ? If so, did you keep it after stopping ?

Would you recommend doing topical for lashes/brow ? Or not doing it at all and just stick with serums ?

 

[chadisbeingmade]

Did you notice some gains on lashes/brows after 2 years of use ?

They maxxed out at the 4-6months mark.

If so, did you keep it after stopping ?

More or less retuned to baseline for me.

Would you recommend doing topical for lashes/brow ? Or not doing it at all and just stick with serums ?

I don’t do anything personally. If you want to use for lashes then apply to brows only, lashes will grow also.

That’s why I believe many here have a false sense of safety knowing that i hop on fin they will have a juvenile hairline until the grave.

From multiple anecdotes I’ve encountered irl guys and consulting with hair transplant surgeons, guys who start to show signs of MBP in their teens are pretty much fucked.

5 aRI inhibitors are really not the miracle some may claim them to be and the demographic that can effectively utilize them is much slimmer than most guys here think. Truth is it’s almost all about genes, if your father is nw7, even 2.5 mg of Duta may do nothing.

You simply aren’t losing hair on 2.5mg Dut and RU. It isn’t happening. With just 5ARi inhibition, it’s totally understandable that for those teens with aggressive AGA 2.5mg Dut alone won’t cut it (not 100% DHT supression + scalp Test). They are extremely sensitive to androgens. But adding in RU on top of that, even they are safe. RU mogs Dut in my experience, just Dut has great benefits especially if you roid.

 

[wtiera]

They maxxed out at the 4-6months mark.


More or less retuned to baseline for me.



I don’t do anything personally. If you want to use for lashes then apply to brows only, lashes will grow also.



You simply aren’t losing hair on 2.5mg Dut and RU. It isn’t happening. With just 5ARi inhibition, it’s totally understandable that for those teens with aggressive AGA 2.5mg Dut alone won’t cut it (not 100% DHT supression + scalp Test). They are extremely sensitive to androgens. But adding in RU on top of that, even they are safe. RU mogs Dut in my experience, just Dut has great benefits especially if you roid.

Thanks.

And will it make you age too ?

 

[Prettyboy]

You simply aren’t losing hair on 2.5mg Dut and RU. It isn’t happening. With just 5ARi inhibition, it’s totally understandable that for those teens with aggressive AGA 2.5mg Dut alone won’t cut it (not 100% DHT supression + scalp Test). They are extremely sensitive to androgens. But adding in RU on top of that, even they are safe. RU mogs Dut in my experience, just Dut has great benefits especially if you roid.

i used dut and it gave me reflex hyperandrogenicity which in turn made my hair worse. Now of fin. People need to wake up that it’s not as easy as just blocking dht - 2.5 mg dutasteride indeed annihilates it but what really matters is follicular androgen receptor sensitivity. In hairloss communities there’s a growing number of anecdotes that dutasteride has a tendency to upregulate androgen sensitivity (because it’s so strong so the body tries to fight back into homeostasis)

I advise everyone not to fall for the dutasteride meme and start with low dose finasteride every time, leave dut as the nuclear option

reflex hyperandrogenicity is a horrific condition no man wishes to take cyprosterone or topical estrogen to reverse it

 

[chadisbeingmade]

i used dut and it gave me reflex hyperandrogenicity which in turn made my hair worse.

No it didn’t. It’s pure pseudoscience. Sure, maybe made your hair worse (temporarily, if you didn’t stop, or add RU) but it most certainly was not muh reflex hyperandrogenicity. The singular fact you use Fin without supposedly shitting on your hair makes that pretty clear, otherwise all options would be out the window, including Fin.

People need to wake up that it’s not as easy as just blocking dht

Indeed, it’s about blocking all androgens at the scalp. That includes Test which is still androgenic.

but what really matters is follicular androgen receptor sensitivity.

Of course.

In hairloss communities there’s a growing number of anecdotes that dutasteride has a tendency to upregulate androgen sensitivity (because it’s so strong so the body tries to fight back into homeostasis)

No. There are a growing number of people who use Dutasteride and shit their pants because they didn’t get result within a a few months, and shed hair instead. Even the increase in scalp T from simply starting is enough to induce a shed or cause you to regress if you are extremely prone genetically, (2.5 dut increases scalp T by ~222% compared to 5mg Fins ~23% scalp T increase).

I advise everyone not to fall for the dutasteride meme

Single best drug you can use for your hair outside of RU. Eveyone should skip Fincopeasteride. What is a meme is reflex hyperandrogenicity and the anecdotes of people that claim they have it who haven’t been on the drug for any substantial amount of time.

reflex hyperandrogenicity is a horrific condition no man

I’m sure it would be, if it existed, but it doesn’t.

Even in a hypothetical world where it did it did exist, recommending Fin > Dut is still retarded considering clinical trials shown the superiority of Dut over Fin.