Dutch dentist system is a joke

[Ghost Philosophy]

So I’ve had this awful pain in my tooth/mouth that doesn’t go away and you constantly feel for an entire week, making me unable to eat and drink, because it just hurts too much whenever something touches it. Warm drinks, cold drinks. Doesn’t matter. Falling asleep becomes harder due to the constant pain and you wake up throughout the night because of the intense pain. So last Saturday I went to a dentist, got an appointment for 10+ days later. Next week Tuesday. On Wednesday I visited the clinic and I got it scheduled for Monday, and I asked how much it would cost when they will do the procedure on Monday, and I get told it’s just an intake interview, no procedures will happen, they’ll just take photos and discuss what to do and then the next appointment the procedure would take place. WTF! I told the girl behind the counter I’ll just find another place, she says she’ll keep the appointment just in case, I say OK. So then later on I call another dentist clinic and they can see me on Friday, today), I asked if they would be able to help me on the same day, and I get the same answer. Just an intake, no procedures, procedure next appointment. On my family’s suggestion I called up a third clinic, and I got told the same story but at least I could see them on Thursday, yesterday. I went there and the dentist said the same thing, we only do intakes, take pictures…

 

[Nathan Fielder]

Wat een kankerzooi

 

[Softmax09]

So I’ve had this awful pain in my tooth/mouth that doesn’t go away and you constantly feel for an entire week, making me unable to eat and drink, because it just hurts too much whenever something touches it. Warm drinks, cold drinks. Doesn’t matter. Falling asleep becomes harder due to the constant pain and you wake up throughout the night because of the intense pain. So last Saturday I went to a dentist, got an appointment for 10+ days later. Next week Tuesday. On Wednesday I visited the clinic and I got it scheduled for Monday, and I asked how much it would cost when they will do the procedure on Monday, and I get told it’s just an intake interview, no procedures will happen, they’ll just take photos and discuss what to do and then the next appointment the procedure would take place. WTF! I told the girl behind the counter I’ll just find another place, she says she’ll keep the appointment just in case, I say OK. So then later on I call another dentist clinic and they can see me on Friday, today), I asked if they would be able to help me on the same day, and I get the same answer. Just an intake, no procedures, procedure next appointment. On my family’s suggestion I called up a third clinic, and I got told the same story but at least I could see them on Thursday, yesterday. I went there and the dentist said the same thing, we only do intakes, take pictures…

Till then the pains already gone tf

 

[Ghost Philosophy]

Wat een kankerzooi

Inderdaad. Klote systeem.

 

[Ghost Philosophy]

Till then the pains already gone tf

No, it would have still been there since it’s nerve damage.

 

[Softmax09]

No, it would have still been there since it’s nerve damage.

Come to Germany, if you have nerve damage you get an appointment on the same day

 

[Ghost Philosophy]

Come to Germany, if you have nerve damage you get an appointment on the same day

Awesome! The problem with the Dutch system is they want to diagnose you first before they do anything. Even if you complain about it hurting a lot, they don’t care.

 

[ER1887]

So I’ve had this awful pain in my tooth/mouth that doesn’t go away and you constantly feel for an entire week, making me unable to eat and drink, because it just hurts too much whenever something touches it. Warm drinks, cold drinks. Doesn’t matter. Falling asleep becomes harder due to the constant pain and you wake up throughout the night because of the intense pain. So last Saturday I went to a dentist, got an appointment for 10+ days later. Next week Tuesday. On Wednesday I visited the clinic and I got it scheduled for Monday, and I asked how much it would cost when they will do the procedure on Monday, and I get told it’s just an intake interview, no procedures will happen, they’ll just take photos and discuss what to do and then the next appointment the procedure would take place. WTF! I told the girl behind the counter I’ll just find another place, she says she’ll keep the appointment just in case, I say OK. So then later on I call another dentist clinic and they can see me on Friday, today), I asked if they would be able to help me on the same day, and I get the same answer. Just an intake, no procedures, procedure next appointment. On my family’s suggestion I called up a third clinic, and I got told the same story but at least I could see them on Thursday, yesterday. I went there and the dentist said the same thing, we only do intakes, take pictures…

In my country u could just walk in w cash and get the procedure

 

[Ghost Philosophy]

In my country u could just walk in w cash and get the procedure

Way better system. I have the cash, I’m in pain, take my fucking money and just get rid of the pain. Pretty good deal right? But nope, not here.

 

[ER1887]

Way better system. I have the cash, I’m in pain, take my fucking money and just get rid of the pain. Pretty good deal right? But nope, not here.

My US cousin always come to my country for any medical treatment. Its way cheaper (including plane tickets btw) and the service is way better

 

[Softmax09]

Awesome! The problem with the Dutch system is they want to diagnose you first before they do anything. Even if you complain about it hurting a lot, they don’t care.

I’ve had nerve damage once and they also diagnosed it first but then immediately removed the inflamed nerve.

But I’m privately insured maybe that’s why I got the appointment so fast

 

[Ghost Philosophy]

My US cousin always come to my country for any medical treatment. Its way cheaper (including plane tickets btw) and the service is way better

Mirin, your cousin knows ball. I’m genuinely too poor to do all that though haha. Which country are you from? (You don’t have to say, I can just check your IP. )

 

[ER1887]

Mirin, your cousin knows ball. I’m genuinely too poor to do all that though haha. Which country are you from? (You don’t have to say, I can just check your IP. )

Im a SEAmonkey from

 

[Ghost Philosophy]

I’ve had nerve damage once and they also diagnosed it first but then immediately removed the inflamed nerve.

But I’m privately insured maybe that’s why I got the appointment so fast

Yes, that’s probably why! I don’t even have dental insurance because I hadn’t gone in 15 years. Did you get a root canal?

 

[Ghost Philosophy]

Im a SEAmonkey from

Siamese SEA BVLL detected.

 

[ER1887]

Siamese SEA BVLL detected.

Ppl often overlook the medical tourism here becuz it gets overshadowed by sexual tourism lol

 

[Ghost Philosophy]

Ppl often overlook the medical tourism here becuz it gets overshadowed by sexual tourism lol

The sexual tourism is so crazy over there. Why do you guys let it happen? Someone said it’s because they just care about money, and the men will pimp out their women, even husbands pumping out their wives. Is that true?

 

[Softmax09]

Yes, that’s probably why! I don’t even have dental insurance because I hadn’t gone in 15 years. Did you get a root canal?

Yes that was it, but it’s already been 3 years.

But in Germany you can’t not have a dental insurance, you have to have a insurance for everything linked to health.
It’s just either your privately insured or by the state.

 

[ER1887]

The sexual tourism is so crazy over there. Why do you guys let it happen? Someone said it’s because they just care about money, and the men will pimp out their women, even husbands pumping out their wives. Is that true?

That is unfortunately true. Education here is a joke and corruption is rampant. Its truly over bro. We’re getting replaced by burmese

 

[Ghost Philosophy]

Yes that was it, but it’s already been 3 years.

But in Germany you can’t not have a dental insurance, you have to have a insurance for everything linked to health.
It’s just either your privately insured or by the state.

It’s quite similar to The Netherlands: health insurance is mandatory by law, but dental insurance is optional. I’m glad you got a root canal the moment you needed it, I had to live with it for an entire week. And this is only the second-most painful thing I’ve ever experienced.

 

[ER1887]

The sexual tourism is so crazy over there. Why do you guys let it happen? Someone said it’s because they just care about money, and the men will pimp out their women, even husbands pumping out their wives. Is that true?

Academic performance in the top 3 skls and the avg skl here drastically differs. No one wants to be a teacher here becuz the salary is low asl and u r required to pay for ur position to teach

 

[Ghost Philosophy]

That is unfortunately true. Education here is a joke and corruption is rampant. Its truly over bro. We’re getting replaced by burmese

Corruption is rampant in all of Asia, it seems. I don’t think it’s good that it’s become a sex tourist destination now. Maybe the Burmese will get rid of the corruption/sex tourism. In history, peoples used to welcome other foreign rulers just because the native rules were dogshit.

 

[Softmax09]

It’s quite similar to The Netherlands: health insurance is mandatory by law, but dental insurance is optional. I’m glad you got a root canal the moment you needed it, I had to live with it for an entire week. And this is only the second-most painful thing I’ve ever experienced.

That’s insane!
In Germany things like a inflamed tooth nerve are „classified“ as a emergency because they are so painful, I think that’s why you get it treated instantly.

 

[Ghost Philosophy]

Academic performance in the top 3 skls and the avg skl here drastically differs. No one wants to be a teacher here becuz the salary is low asl and u r required to pay for ur position to teach

@optimisticzoomer was offered a position there, but he recognized the pay was pretty low and so he’s deciding against it. It’s crazy to hear that you’re required to pay for it! I mean, I guess I’m also paying for it right now as a student who’s going through college. But I think you’re saying licensed teachers still need to pay for their position, even after landing a job? That’s so wild.

 

[ER1887]

Corruption is rampant in all of Asia, it seems. I don’t think it’s good that it’s become a sex tourist destination now. Maybe the Burmese will get rid of the corruption/sex tourism. In history, peoples used to welcome other foreign rulers just because the native rules were dogshit.

Its not the native rule bro. Its the ppl. Thai ppl are generally lazy and low iq asl. They want everything handed to their ass wout having to work for it. That’s why they’re letting in burmese and chinks in the first place. At first these immigrants are here as wage slaves but slowly they gained power since most chinks work hard here and they eventually become rich, meanwhile the burmese are higher in numbers so they’re replacing us.

 

[ER1887]

Its not the native rule bro. Its the ppl. Thai ppl are generally lazy and low iq asl. They want everything handed to their ass wout having to work for it. That’s why they’re letting in burmese and chinks in the first place. At first these immigrants are here as wage slaves but slowly they gained power since most chinks work hard here and they eventually become rich, meanwhile the burmese are higher in numbers so they’re replacing us.

This is also why left wing populism is gaining so much support in the youth lol

 

[SplashJuice]

I hate how expensive dental is, I have to get a crown soon, and I put it off for many years since I was broke, I had to defend the tooth hard and could only chew on one side of my mouth for years.

 

[Ghost Philosophy]

That’s insane!
In Germany things like an inflamed tooth nerve are „classified“ as an emergency because they are so painful, I think that’s why you get it treated instantly.

Maybe so! I told all three dental clinics that I need a root canal because I’ve been in a lot of pain, but they gave me the same answers. We have emergency dental clinics as well, which are available 24/7, but they charge a so-called anw tax, which stands for “avond, nacht en weekend” (evening, night and weekend). They charge around €30 extra for that. I read reviews and they weren’t good reviews. Like they had to get a root canal twice because the emergency clinic screwed it up, they also charge €150 for just two photos being made. And a bunch of reviews said the dentist was a huge bitch with an attitude, rolling her eyes whenever they said something or had concerns or just had normal questions. Just fucking lol.

 

[Ghost Philosophy]

Its not the native rule bro. Its the ppl. Thai ppl are generally lazy and low iq asl. They want everything handed to their ass wout having to work for it. That’s why they’re letting in burmese and chinks in the first place. At first these immigrants are here as wage slaves but slowly they gained power since most chinks work hard here and they eventually become rich, meanwhile the burmese are higher in numbers so they’re replacing us.

That sucks. You guys need to embrace a conservative culture so that everyone wants to preserve Thai culture. That way, you can’t be replaced and you’ll be stricter on immigration. But from what I’ve seen, the damage is already done and I don’t think anything could fix it anymore.

 

[SplashJuice]

Its not the native rule bro. Its the ppl. Thai ppl are generally lazy and low iq asl. They want everything handed to their ass wout having to work for it. That’s why they’re letting in burmese and chinks in the first place. At first these immigrants are here as wage slaves but slowly they gained power since most chinks work hard here and they eventually become rich, meanwhile the burmese are higher in numbers so they’re replacing us.

I thought the Thai were industrious, like the Chinese, I worked with a couple of them many years ago

 

[Ghost Philosophy]

This is also why left wing populism is gaining so much support in the youth lol

Left-wing populism or right-wing populism? Left-wingers are pro-immigration, right-wingers are anti-immigration.

 

[Ghost Philosophy]

I hate how expensive dental is, I have to get a crown soon, and I put it off for many years since I was broke, I had to defend the tooth hard and could only chew on one side of my mouth for years.

That’s basically what I’ve been doing now, just using one side of my mouth. I’ve been eating custard for days now. But I can’t imagine doing that for years! Holy shit dude. And what’s a crown exactly, why is it necessary?

 

[Softmax09]

Maybe so! I told all three dental clinics that I need a root canal because I’ve been in a lot of pain, but they gave me the same answers. We have emergency dental clinics as well, which are available 24/7, but they charge a so-called anw tax, which stands for “avond, nacht en weekend” (evening, night and weekend). They charge around €30 extra for that. I read reviews and they weren’t good reviews. Like they had to get a root canal twice because the emergency clinic screwed it up, they also charge €150 for just two photos being made. And a bunch of reviews said the dentist was a huge bitch with an attitude, rolling her eyes whenever they said something or had concerns or just had normal questions. Just fucking lol.

Just take their doctor license, wdym they had to get a root canal TWICE?!
And 150€ for fucking photos being made is insane.
Understandable that you don’t wanna do that

 

[Softmax09]

Left-wing populism or right-wing populism? Left-wingers are pro-immigration, right-wingers are anti-immigration.

He probably means left wing populism because the shit is to expensive

 

[Uraniumescent]

So I’ve had this awful pain in my tooth/mouth that doesn’t go away and you constantly feel for an entire week, making me unable to eat and drink, because it just hurts too much whenever something touches it. Warm drinks, cold drinks. Doesn’t matter. Falling asleep becomes harder due to the constant pain and you wake up throughout the night because of the intense pain. So last Saturday I went to a dentist, got an appointment for 10+ days later. Next week Tuesday. On Wednesday I visited the clinic and I got it scheduled for Monday, and I asked how much it would cost when they will do the procedure on Monday, and I get told it’s just an intake interview, no procedures will happen, they’ll just take photos and discuss what to do and then the next appointment the procedure would take place. WTF! I told the girl behind the counter I’ll just find another place, she says she’ll keep the appointment just in case, I say OK. So then later on I call another dentist clinic and they can see me on Friday, today), I asked if they would be able to help me on the same day, and I get the same answer. Just an intake, no procedures, procedure next appointment. On my family’s suggestion I called up a third clinic, and I got told the same story but at least I could see them on Thursday, yesterday. I went there and the dentist said the same thing, we only do intakes, take pictures…

I exchanged to the netherlands i learned some phrases.

ik ben kanker geil , je bent tantoe lekker, wil je raggen. Als je nee zegt ga ik pagga op je slaan

 

[ER1887]

Left-wing populism or right-wing populism? Left-wingers are pro-immigration, right-wingers are anti-immigration.

Left-wing equality and socalism bs. They wanna raise minimum wage and open borders and make visa free. Also the lgbtq nonsense

 

[Ghost Philosophy]

Just take their doctor license, wdym they had to get a root canal TWICE?!
And 150€ for fucking photos being made is insane.
Understandable that you don’t wanna do that

I don’t understand why cold-hearted people like that work in healthcare. They clearly don’t like what they’re doing, so they should not be continuing that line of work. And yep, it’s overpriced and the quality is subpar, so I decided I would rather just wait till I get help from a regular dental clinic.

 

[Ghost Philosophy]

He probably means left wing populism because the shit is to expensive

Really? I didn’t know. What does stuff being expensive and left-wing populism have to do with each other? As you can tell, I’m not really familiar with politics.

 

[Ghost Philosophy]

I exchanged to the netherlands i learned some phrases.

ik ben kanker geil , je bent tantoe lekker, wil je raggen. Als je nee zegt ga ik pagga op je slaan

I’ve heard every one of them except the third one. Where in the Netherlands were you?

 

[ER1887]

I thought the Thai were industrious, like the Chinese, I worked with a couple of them many years ago

Like I said. The ones from top3 skls and the rest of the skls are polarizing. The avg scores for uni entrance exam is below 20% while the ppl from top 3 skls score 80%+. The ones u encountered are the exceptions that made it outside the country

 

[Ghost Philosophy]

Left-wing equality and socalism bs. They wanna raise minimum wage and open borders and make visa free. Also the lgbtq nonsense

Oooh gotcha. I didn’t know wanting to raise minimum wage was a left-wing thing, I thought it was a concept that any side could embrace.

 

[Softmax09]

I don’t understand why cold-hearted people like that work in healthcare. They clearly don’t like what they’re doing, so they should not be continuing that line of work. And yep, it’s overpriced and the quality is subpar, so I decided I would rather just wait till I get help from a regular dental clinic.

Probably because they went to a university for very long and then it’s hard to change from such an job to another one, also because you get paid really good etc.

 

[SplashJuice]

That’s basically what I’ve been doing now, just using one side of my mouth. I’ve been eating custard for days now. But I can’t imagine doing that for years! Holy shit dude. And what’s a crown exactly, why is it necessary?

Many years ago I got a root canal because the tooth became infected, insane pain. Probably the worst I've ever felt in my life, they gave me opioids to cope.

After the root canal (which my parents paid for since I was still in HS), you're supposed to crown it, it functions like a protective layer over your damaged tooth. If that's not fully salvageable you have to get implants.

 

[elliottttt]

So I’ve had this awful pain in my tooth/mouth that doesn’t go away and you constantly feel for an entire week, making me unable to eat and drink, because it just hurts too much whenever something touches it. Warm drinks, cold drinks. Doesn’t matter. Falling asleep becomes harder due to the constant pain and you wake up throughout the night because of the intense pain. So last Saturday I went to a dentist, got an appointment for 10+ days later. Next week Tuesday. On Wednesday I visited the clinic and I got it scheduled for Monday, and I asked how much it would cost when they will do the procedure on Monday, and I get told it’s just an intake interview, no procedures will happen, they’ll just take photos and discuss what to do and then the next appointment the procedure would take place. WTF! I told the girl behind the counter I’ll just find another place, she says she’ll keep the appointment just in case, I say OK. So then later on I call another dentist clinic and they can see me on Friday, today), I asked if they would be able to help me on the same day, and I get the same answer. Just an intake, no procedures, procedure next appointment. On my family’s suggestion I called up a third clinic, and I got told the same story but at least I could see them on Thursday, yesterday. I went there and the dentist said the same thing, we only do intakes, take pictures…

its a detox. dentist will never fix the problem. you need more raw animal fats and unheated minerals to help.

 

[ER1887]

Oooh gotcha. I didn’t know wanting to raise minimum wage was a left-wing thing, I thought it was a concept that any side could embrace.

Its not rlly abt the minimum wage thing. Its more abt their general policy and socialism. They wanna increase tax and just give money. They also hate the country and embrace the lgbtq nonsense. They also wanna defund the military and reform the institutions

 

[Ghost Philosophy]

Probably because they went to a university for very long and then it’s hard to change from such a job to another one, also because you get paid really good etc.

Yeah, that’s most likely it. Personally though, if I was gonna be a sour piece of shit, I’d look for a job that stops me from interacting with people.

 

[elliottttt]

Many years ago I got a root canal because the tooth became infected, insane pain. Probably the worst I've ever felt in my life, they gave me opioids to cope.

After the root canal (which my parents paid for since I was still in HS), you're supposed to crown it, it functions like a protective layer over your damaged tooth. If that's not fully salvageable you have to get implants.

my guy u just poisoned yourself with mercury i bet your dentist didn't tell you that your amalgam will be leeching mercury for the rest of your life

 

[Uraniumescent]

I’ve heard every one of them except the third one. Where in the Netherlands were you?

I wont say the exact city since theres like only one school there. We went on trips to amsterdam and eindhoven tho

I exchanged for like a week, so it was pretty short

One of the most fun things ive done in my life

 

[ER1887]

That sucks. You guys need to embrace a conservative culture so that everyone wants to preserve Thai culture. That way, you can’t be replaced and you’ll be stricter on immigration. But from what I’ve seen, the damage is already done and I don’t think anything could fix it anymore.

The older folks are most conservative but the newer gen are leaning right. Most thais don’t gas abt politics and they hate the concept of reading. Most of the info they get is from watching tt and the left controls the media here. Their potential pm got disqualified cuz he has stocks in media

 

[Ghost Philosophy]

Many years ago I got a root canal because the tooth became infected, insane pain. Probably the worst I've ever felt in my life, they gave me opioids to cope.

After the root canal (which my parents paid for since I was still in HS), you're supposed to crown it, it functions like a protective layer over your damaged tooth. If that's not fully salvageable you have to get implants.

Goddamn. Yep, that insane pain you’re talking about, I’ve been feeling it for an entire week. But for me, this is the second-worst pain I’ve experienced. My friend said I should get tramadol since it’s an opioid and it would be good. Coming to think of it, it’s crazy that I’ve been dealing with this pain for an entire week even though it requires opioids to relieve the pain. Thanks for explaining what a crown is, I will probably be having it too. How much did it cost over there? Here a root canal costs €800. If you’re not insured. Like I am.