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[iblamethebulk]

EDITED:

17 rn and have been running 12iu hgh for around 40 days grew around 2 cm wanted to ad aas's cuz why not
advice pls
cycle atm:
all of these are weekly EOD injections except hgh which is ED
and reta is weekly


Goals are to grow taller(every androgen pathway), wider and just become more dimorphic and just become huge

weeks 1-4:
300 test e
300 eq
800IU HCG
9iu hgh
Reta 1mg
1mg semax daily

weeks 4-8:
300 test e
300 eq
800IU HCG
9iu hgh
Reta 2mg
1mg semax daily

weeks 8-12:
300 test e
300 eq
70 tren A (10mg daily)
800IU HCG
9iu hgh
Reta 2mg
1mg semax daily
weeks 12-16:
300 test e
300 eq
140 tren A (20mg daily)
800IU HCG
9iu hgh
Reta 2mg
1mg semax daily

weeks 16-20:
300 test e
300 eq
210 tren A (30mg daily)
800IU HCG
9iu hgh
Reta 2mg
1mg semax daily


weeks 20-28:
300 test
800IU HCG
9iu hgh
Reta 2mg
1mg semax daily

and idk what to do after this probably gonna cruise at 200 test P

GONNA DO 60MG CEREBROPROTEIN FOR 24 DAYS AFTER TREN

On hand stuff:
Estrodial pills if crashed estrogen somehow
Aromasin
Tamoxifen

Ancillaries:
Atorvastatin 20mg ED(cholesterol control)
Telmisartan 40mg ED (blood pressure)
Tadalafil(cialis) 5mg ED (blood pressure and gym pumps and special occasions)
Eplernone 50mg ED (bloat)
Isotretinoin 20mg ED
Oral minox 5mg ED
5% ru58841 serum daily (50mg)
also vitamins d3,k2,calcium, fish oils.....

Help would be appreciated

 

[iblamethebulk]

Thanks so much to @PharmaFaggot

 

[PharmaPhaggot]

Thanks so much to @PharmaFaggot

Looks nice

 

[iblamethebulk]

bump

 

[nsabi67]

Mirin hard brah

 

[iblamethebulk]

Mirin hard brah

thanks bro <3

 

[iblamethebulk]

blump

 

[iblamethebulk]

burp

 

[iblamethebulk]

bru

 

[ascendtocl122]

@PharmaPhaggot why do u have him doing hcg for all weeks on cycle? dont want to get desensitised better to save for pct

 

[PharmaPhaggot]

@PharmaPhaggot why do u have him doing hcg for all weeks on cycle? dont want to get desensitised better to save for pct

The desensitazation happens terrribly quick within a day do itll happen no matter what, but this is not an issue since since hcg has such insane affinity for lhr's that itl work despite the desentiation, to desenditize to these amounts would be incredibly difficult for the body if not impossible evek over longer times

 

[ascendtocl122]

The desensitazation happens terrribly quick within a day do itll happen no matter what, but this is not an issue since since hcg has such insane affinity for lhr's that itl work despite the desentiation, to desenditize to these amounts would be incredibly difficult for the body if not impossible evek over longer times

even from cost perspective? no difference between pct and doing so on cycle.... hes also cruising after? why tf would he take hcg. drop it imo

 

[PharmaPhaggot]

even from cost perspective? no difference between pct and doing so on cycle.... hes also cruising after? why tf would he take hcg. drop it imo

Maybe it wouldnt be necessary at first but atleast during the tren would be usefull to not get the atrophy in the first place so we dont have to gamble with the time frame for the reversal as tren is quite prolific

 

[introvertedextrover]

good cycle, I dont reccomend using hcg during the tren theres no point your going to be shut down ethier way. And skip the cholerestrol meds until blood show you need them, just avoiding extra liver stress.

Overall good but make sure you have a goal, seems like you want to push size if being crazy lean isnt your worry then switch out tren for npp, and use cerobloyisn or whatever its also good for preventing 19 norr brain damage, even phenlypiractam to help conginitive abbilties.

If i was you i would add in armodafinil, propanolol , nebiv when needed just to be extra safe
I also highly would advise running eq 1:1 if its your first time you dont know how your body is going to respond atleast you have estrogen pills on hand you would be better off switching that to low dose dbol imo as it acts quicker and has anabolic properties, But always with eq start low and work your way up if you fuck up your joints will hurt for a bit or you will cause self induced gyno from your e2 pills.

really do your research tho if pharma isnt coaching you i would reccomend getting a coach since your gonna run into sides and try to fix them but end up causing more issues as its your first time running gear. But this cycle is perfect for a first run just make sure you watch bloods like an eagle

 

[patrioticgymcel]

EDITED:

17 rn and have been running 12iu hgh for around 40 days grew around 2 cm wanted to ad aas's cuz why not
advice pls
cycle atm:
all of these are weekly EOD injections except hgh which is ED
and reta is weekly


Goals are to grow taller(every androgen pathway), wider and just become more dimorphic and just become huge

weeks 1-4:
300 test e
300 eq
800IU HCG
9iu hgh
Reta 1mg
1mg semax daily

weeks 4-8:
300 test e
300 eq
800IU HCG
9iu hgh
Reta 2mg
1mg semax daily

weeks 8-12:
300 test e
300 eq
70 tren A (10mg daily)
800IU HCG
9iu hgh
Reta 2mg
1mg semax daily
weeks 12-16:
300 test e
300 eq
140 tren A (20mg daily)
800IU HCG
9iu hgh
Reta 2mg
1mg semax daily

weeks 16-20:
300 test e
300 eq
210 tren A (30mg daily)
800IU HCG
9iu hgh
Reta 2mg
1mg semax daily


weeks 20-28:
300 test
800IU HCG
9iu hgh
Reta 2mg
1mg semax daily

and idk what to do after this probably gonna cruise at 200 test P

GONNA DO 60MG CEREBROPROTEIN FOR 24 DAYS AFTER TREN

On hand stuff:
Estrodial pills if crashed estrogen somehow
Aromasin
Tamoxifen

Ancillaries:
Atorvastatin 20mg ED(cholesterol control)
Telmisartan 40mg ED (blood pressure)
Tadalafil(cialis) 5mg ED (blood pressure and gym pumps and special occasions)
Eplernone 50mg ED (bloat)
Isotretinoin 20mg ED
Oral minox 5mg ED
5% ru58841 serum daily (50mg)
also vitamins d3,k2,calcium, fish oils.....

Help would be appreciated

How much would the cycle cost

 

[ascendtocl122]

Maybe it wouldnt be necessary at first but atleast during the tren would be usefull to not get the atrophy in the first place so we dont have to gamble with the time frame for the reversal as tren is quite prolific

hes going to do a 26 week cycle and then cruise. there is no reason to take hcg

 

[introvertedextrover]

Maybe it wouldnt be necessary at first but atleast during the tren would be usefull to not get the atrophy in the first place so we dont have to gamble with the time frame for the reversal as tren is quite prolific

But theres no point in running it on tren, HCG will restart you at any time tren will shut you fully down ethier way hcg will just keep them senstised not to a good degree but running, It would be smarter to just shutdown then cruise off afterwards and start hcg post cycle and you will still recover well even on trt. Tren shouldnt be ran for more than 12 weeks anyways due to the glutocoritocirds or what ever the fuck it is down regulating he would have to use t3 or t4 to help with that if im not mistaken

 

[PharmaPhaggot]

hes going to do a 26 week cycle and then cruise. there is no reason to take hcg

Ah shit thought he wad going natty after the last test part, my bad op

 

[PharmaPhaggot]

But theres no point in running it on tren, HCG will restart you at any time tren will shut you fully down ethier way hcg will just keep them senstised not to a good degree but running, It would be smarter to just shutdown then cruise off afterwards and start hcg post cycle and you will still recover well even on trt. Tren shouldnt be ran for more than 12 weeks anyways due to the glutocoritocirds or what ever the fuck it is down regulating he would have to use t3 or t4 to help with that if im not mistaken

Ah shit thought he wad going natty after the last test part, my bad op

 

[ascendtocl122]

Ah shit thought he wad going natty after the last test part, my bad op

just be careful when giving out advice dont want to hurt people. not ur fault tho its gg

 

[introvertedextrover]

Ah shit thought he wad going natty after the last test part, my bad op

LOL allg, yeah but even still hcg on tren would do fuck all tren is so potent and crazy, But why would anyone do a 26 week cycle then pct off. PCT is retarded imo if your gonna run gear at all your in it until you decide you dont need to impress anyone anymore or you find a wife and plan to have kids thats when pct should be used. Otherwise its stupid and retarded and hopping on for one cycle makes no sense. ITs like buying a game playing it for 60 hours but its just the trial then not paying like nigga your wasting your time but also your health.

 

[PharmaPhaggot]

LOL allg, yeah but even still hcg on tren would do fuck all tren is so potent and crazy, But why would anyone do a 26 week cycle then pct off. PCT is retarded imo if your gonna run gear at all your in it until you decide you dont need to impress anyone anymore or you find a wife and plan to have kids thats when pct should be used. Otherwise its stupid and retarded and hopping on for one cycle makes no sense. ITs like buying a game playing it for 60 hours but its just the trial then not paying like nigga your wasting your time but also your health.

It would still as the reason tren is so sttong for atrophy is turning the hpta completely of and hcg repkaces the hpta

And i agree, cruising is alwayd optimal but most niggas wont, so ill rather atleadts se them do 1 cycle and be bigger than before

 

[introvertedextrover]

How much would the cycle cost

From my sources this is very rough i cbf auctually doing it and im in australia btw.
ancrilies 400-600 depending on dosage doesnt change the whole cycle but it will cuz bp will spike on eq + tren so 80mg+ will be needed
oils from my private UGL will be around 600 china 250-350
gh + reta 500 from china
So looking around 1500 ish pretty cheap cycle, tbh prolly closer to 1100-1200 since they run deals n shi

 

[introvertedextrover]

It would still as the reason tren is so sttong for atrophy is turning the hpta completely of and hcg repkaces the hpta

And i agree, cruising is alwayd optimal but most niggas wont, so ill rather atleadts se them do 1 cycle and be bigger than before

ehh i guess i mean my plan when i started was 12 weeks of test and 250mg, I got like 8kg of muscle but i was still fat. then i ordered one more vial and said yk what ill do 18 weeks at 500mg then hop off.
Here we are at week 40 or 45 now i lost count cruising off and on.
Tbf ive auctually only ran two proper cycles so far
500 test 600 eq for 10 weeks (stopped early due to a hbc scare was crictically low JFL not high cuz iron was cooked)
then the current one im on
300 test 200 tren + 50 anadrol soon or superdrol since you say it mogs and it lowk does.
other than that ive only touched anavar for 8 weeks at 50mg and its dog shit to say the least i felt 0. Tren is the gold standard for me now tho

Other than that 300 test year round keeps me happy no ai with low e2 auctually, its great.

 

[PharmaPhaggot]

ehh i guess i mean my plan when i started was 12 weeks of test and 250mg, I got like 8kg of muscle but i was still fat. then i ordered one more vial and said yk what ill do 18 weeks at 500mg then hop off.
Here we are at week 40 or 45 now i lost count cruising off and on.
Tbf ive auctually only ran two proper cycles so far
500 test 600 eq for 10 weeks (stopped early due to a hbc scare was crictically low JFL not high cuz iron was cooked)
then the current one im on
300 test 200 tren + 50 anadrol soon or superdrol since you say it mogs and it lowk does.
other than that ive only touched anavar for 8 weeks at 50mg and its dog shit to say the least i felt 0. Tren is the gold standard for me now tho

Mirin, tren will make you chad

Other than that 300 test year round keeps me happy no ai with low e2 auctually, its great.

Gtfo of this site chad

( i have to cope with 200 like a little bitch)

 

[introvertedextrover]

Mirin, tren will make you chad

Gtfo of this site chad

( i have to cope with 200 like a little bitch)

Tren makes everyone chad
I just don’t really aromatise but fuck me tren is making them puffy this cycle even on 500 i had no issues but my eq was 600 so jfl that would of been why

But for the first time im having to auctually take an ai which i hate to do cuz tren is making me puffy but its not prolactin, id rather cook e2 then my prolactin tho ethier way im still wanting to fuck the kitchen sink so it’s not prolactin. i get bloods next week so i can confirm it but i haven’t had low e2 sides yet so we’re good.

if i dont respond after a couple days it means i did get low e2 and kms

 

[PharmaPhaggot]

if i dont respond after a couple days it means i did get low e2 and kms

Nah dont, steroids=gyno=estrogen

Basically its your sign to quadruple the doses from gandy and the doc is just a prophet

 

[introvertedextrover]

Nah dont, steroids=gyno=estrogen

Basically its your sign to quadruple the doses from gandy and the doc is just a prophet

bet say less, 600 test 1.2g tren from next week

 

[iblamethebulk]

good cycle, I dont reccomend using hcg during the tren theres no point your going to be shut down ethier way. And skip the cholerestrol meds until blood show you need them, just avoiding extra liver stress.

Overall good but make sure you have a goal, seems like you want to push size if being crazy lean isnt your worry then switch out tren for npp, and use cerobloyisn or whatever its also good for preventing 19 norr brain damage, even phenlypiractam to help conginitive abbilties.

If i was you i would add in armodafinil, propanolol , nebiv when needed just to be extra safe
I also highly would advise running eq 1:1 if its your first time you dont know how your body is going to respond atleast you have estrogen pills on hand you would be better off switching that to low dose dbol imo as it acts quicker and has anabolic properties, But always with eq start low and work your way up if you fuck up your joints will hurt for a bit or you will cause self induced gyno from your e2 pills.

really do your research tho if pharma isnt coaching you i would reccomend getting a coach since your gonna run into sides and try to fix them but end up causing more issues as its your first time running gear. But this cycle is perfect for a first run just make sure you watch bloods like an eagle

Yeah I will watch them dw also really thanks for the response

 

[PharmaPhaggot]

And skip the cholerestrol meds until blood show you need them, just avoiding extra liver stress.

The liver stress from from statins are beyond trivial, lipids are also almost guaranteed to be fucked from tren, lipids are also hell of a lot more important than liver health

 

[iblamethebulk]

bet say less, 600 test 1.2g tren from next week

Rookie number vro

 

[iblamethebulk]

The liver stress from from statins are beyond trivial, lipids are also almost guaranteed to be fucked from tren, lipids are also hell of a lot more important than liver health

Yeah, I’m really trying to take every precaution that I can to not fuck myself up and still get good returns.

 

[iblamethebulk]

The liver stress from from statins are beyond trivial, lipids are also almost guaranteed to be fucked from tren, lipids are also hell of a lot more important than liver health

Also I’m not really sure how to use pm’s here so I wanted to ask if you could coach me for money ofc

 

[PharmaPhaggot]

Also I’m not really sure how to use pm’s here so I wanted to ask if you could coach me for money ofc

I could coach you sure

 

[iblamethebulk]

I could coach you sure

Lesgo I’ll get my paycheck and then ill talk to you cuz rn I’m broke as fuck

 

[skibidimaster69]

EDITED:

17 rn and have been running 12iu hgh for around 40 days grew around 2 cm wanted to ad aas's cuz why not
advice pls
cycle atm:
all of these are weekly EOD injections except hgh which is ED
and reta is weekly


Goals are to grow taller(every androgen pathway), wider and just become more dimorphic and just become huge

weeks 1-4:
300 test e
300 eq
800IU HCG
9iu hgh
Reta 1mg
1mg semax daily

weeks 4-8:
300 test e
300 eq
800IU HCG
9iu hgh
Reta 2mg
1mg semax daily

weeks 8-12:
300 test e
300 eq
70 tren A (10mg daily)
800IU HCG
9iu hgh
Reta 2mg
1mg semax daily
weeks 12-16:
300 test e
300 eq
140 tren A (20mg daily)
800IU HCG
9iu hgh
Reta 2mg
1mg semax daily

weeks 16-20:
300 test e
300 eq
210 tren A (30mg daily)
800IU HCG
9iu hgh
Reta 2mg
1mg semax daily


weeks 20-28:
300 test
800IU HCG
9iu hgh
Reta 2mg
1mg semax daily

and idk what to do after this probably gonna cruise at 200 test P

GONNA DO 60MG CEREBROPROTEIN FOR 24 DAYS AFTER TREN

On hand stuff:
Estrodial pills if crashed estrogen somehow
Aromasin
Tamoxifen

Ancillaries:
Atorvastatin 20mg ED(cholesterol control)
Telmisartan 40mg ED (blood pressure)
Tadalafil(cialis) 5mg ED (blood pressure and gym pumps and special occasions)
Eplernone 50mg ED (bloat)
Isotretinoin 20mg ED
Oral minox 5mg ED
5% ru58841 serum daily (50mg)
also vitamins d3,k2,calcium, fish oils.....

Help would be appreciated

You plan on being on trt for life?

 

[iblamethebulk]

You plan on being on trt for life?

Not sure, but probably after this I will pct hence why In the end of the cycle I’m going to switch to test prop which has a shorter half life and then I can pct faster and keep more gains.

 

[FootballPlaya69]

Estrogen gonna be 0 on 1:1 Test to EQ lmao retarded

 

[iblamethebulk]

Estrogen gonna be 0 on 1:1 Test to EQ lmao retarded

Gonna check bloodwork in a couple weeks if that’s the case I will lower the eq dose or take an estrodial pill.

 

[iblamethebulk]

I could coach you sure

Do you think I can add an oral to the cycle? I thought maybe anadrol but not too sure I don’t really know much about orals

 

[PharmaPhaggot]

Do you think I can add an oral to the cycle? I thought maybe anadrol but not too sure I don’t really know much about orals

You could if you like, i dont love anadrol but i get it, because its gonna give good gains for the toxicity, if you wanna deal with the bloat then just keep the tamoxifen in anf get some eplerone or hctz but personally id maybe run tbol even though its less gains. But id say preferably use it after the tren as a finisher in case youre just not satisfied so worry about it later

 

[iblamethebulk]

You could if you like, i dont love anadrol but i get it, because its gonna give good gains for the toxicity, if you wanna deal with the bloat then just keep the tamoxifen in anf get some eplerone or hctz but personally id maybe run tbol even though its less gains. But id say preferably use it after the tren as a finisher in case youre just not satisfied so worry about it later

Ok ok ok ill think about it down the line thanks

 

[India lover 52]

i would start the tren week one and tirate up from like 50mg and use enanthate instead of ace, both will help reduce trensomnia and so will running a lower dose for a longer period of time, i also recommend mega dose melatonin

you should also have a antioxidant stack with some NAC and ALA and some other antioxidants

 

[iblamethebulk]

i would start the tren week one and tirate up from like 50mg and use enanthate instead of ace, both will help reduce trensomnia and so will running a lower dose for a longer period of time, i also recommend mega dose melatonin

you should also have a antioxidant stack with some NAC and ALA and some other antioxidants

When I get my paycheck I’ll buy NAC and tudca or injectable glutathione I’m not sure atm tho. And why should I start Tren at week 1?

 

[India lover 52]

When I get my paycheck I’ll buy NAC and tudca or injectable glutathione I’m not sure atm tho. And why should I start Tren at week 1?

the first week of tren is the worse for insomnia i was up for multiple nights in a row, if you start at a low dose and let your body adjust to it once you up the dose it won't be as bad

also you would probably get more gains from running it your whole cycle than for a short burst even if the total dose is the same because androgen receptors respond better to prolonged activation than short spikes

 

[iblamethebulk]

the first week of tren is the worse for insomnia i was up for multiple nights in a row, if you start at a low dose and let your body adjust to it once you up the dose it won't be as bad

also you would probably get more gains from running it your whole cycle than for a short burst even if the total dose is the same because androgen receptors respond better to prolonged activation than short spikes

Won’t it be super neurotoxic and just toxic as fuck if I do that? And I don’t have a way to get Tren e like only Tren a

 

[India lover 52]

Won’t it be super neurotoxic and just toxic as fuck if I do that? And I don’t have a way to get Tren e like only Tren a

no it would be less neurotoxic trens neurotoxicty comes from being extremely androgenic in the brain and also increasing dopamine sensitivity which is why it feels like a adhd med, a lower weekly dose with longer exposure would spike your dopamine less.

also most sources have tren e i use wwb on meso they have it for like 25 a vial

 

[iblamethebulk]

no it would be less neurotoxic trens neurotoxicty comes from being extremely androgenic in the brain and also increasing dopamine sensitivity which is why it feels like a adhd med, a lower weekly dose with longer exposure would spike your dopamine less.

also most sources have tren e i use wwb on meso they have it for like 25 a vial

Do you think i could get away with tren a? because my domestic source only has that atm and i ordered it already so i cant really wait for a restock. Would you reccomend 70mg weekly for the entir duration of the cycle? also i really appreciate your responses bro

 

[India lover 52]

Do you think i could get away with tren a? because my domestic source only has that atm and i ordered it already so i cant really wait for a restock. Would you reccomend 70mg weekly for the entir duration of the cycle? also i really appreciate your responses bro

tren ace will work too but your blood levels will fluctuate more so pin every day and have some melatonin and Benadryl for sleep, im currently on 80mg enanthate and i pretty much have no negative sides but it depends on your personal 19nor tolerence and brain AR sensitivity so try it out and adjust the dose after a week or 2 depending on how you feel

 

[narrowmouthcel]

holy bro L cycle just take 5 kilos of 19 nors and 100 test rope nigga