Emotional Intelligence

[Brus Wane]

This is one of the most "sought after traits" in men

Yet no one can define this shit

It's a red fucking flag when people say it and don't know what it means

It's just a way to sound intelligent when it really means I don't know what I want I'll know based on vibes

 

[7"L×6"G currymaxxer]

This is one of the most "sought after traits" in men

Yet no one can define this shit

It's a red fucking flag when people say it and don't know what it means

It's just a way to sound intelligent when it really means I don't know what I want I'll know based on vibes

True

Muh emotional intellegence

 

[Snicket]

This is one of the most "sought after traits" in men

Yet no one can define this shit

It's a red fucking flag when people say it and don't know what it means

It's just a way to sound intelligent when it really means I don't know what I want I'll know based on vibes

I think being able to read and gauge people is an important skill in life but I wouldn't categorise it as another field of intelligence.

 

[Brus Wane]

I think being able to read and gauge people is an important skill in life but I wouldn't categorise it as another field of intelligence.

I believe what you've just described + being able to react accordingly and appropriately is called EQ

 

[Snicket]

I believe what you've just described + being able to react accordingly and appropriately is called EQ

I know. I don't really believe in EQ. I think it's a nebulous, pseudo field.

 

[yoshisand]

This is one of the most "sought after traits" in men

Yet no one can define this shit

It's a red fucking flag when people say it and don't know what it means

It's just a way to sound intelligent when it really means I don't know what I want I'll know based on vibes

gift of gab indicates high eq emotional intellegence is just having people skills and reading expressions basically whatever is the opposite of autistics reading peoples expressions mirin your bio

 

[Snicket]

gift of gab indicates high eq emotional intellegence is just having people skills and reading expressions basically whatever is the opposite of autistics reading peoples expressions mirin your bio

You can get better at communication, reading and connecting with people through practice though.
I don't consider it a form of intelligence for this reason - it's a skill, not an inherent attribute.

 

[yoshisand]

You can get better at communication, reading and connecting with people through practice though.
I don't consider it a form of intelligence for this reason - it's a skill, not an inherent attribute.

yes it is havent you ever notice when you were younger there was always that normie kid that just knew how to talk like he was born for socializing with people multiple friends etc etc. and you can consider increasing your intellegence with those same things aswell

 

[Snicket]

yes it is havent you ever notice when you were younger there was always that normie kid that just knew how to talk like he was born for socializing with people multiple friends etc etc.

I've always chalked it up to parents being more effective at socializing their kids from young ages or the kid just being a bit more uninhibited than the rest (more likely to take risks).

and you can consider increasing your intellegence with those same things aswell

I think intelligence is an innate, fixed attribute.
EQ isn't which is just another reason why I don't consider it a form of intelligence but an important skill nonetheless.

 

[yoshisand]

I've always chalked it up to parents being more effective at socializing their kids from young ages or the kid just being a bit more uninhibited than the rest.

I think intelligence is an in-nate fixed attribute.
EQ isn't which is just another reason why I don't consider it a form of intelligence but an important skill nonetheless.

intelligence cant be a fixed attribute because when you learn something you get more intelligent on the topic for a brief period however some people are gifted.
For the IQ department Geniuses
EQ department Gift of Gab.
and as for the little bit unhibited thats just genetic some kids are born scared and some are born not scared

 

[Snicket]

intelligence cant be a fixed attribute because when you learn something you get more intelligent on the topic for a brief period however some people are gifted.

Intelligence broadly measures your ability to assimilate new information.

Being more knowledgable about something doesn't make you more intelligent than someone else who knows less about it.

For the IQ department Geniuses EQ department Gift of Gab. and as for the little bit unhibited thats just genetic some kids are born scared and some are born not scared

I agree that certain personality traits are inheritable and I think that's a major factor behind why some kids are more sociable than others.
Despite this, I still believe EQ is just a skill - not a form of intelligence.
You can't go from 100 IQ to 150 IQ but you can get better at communicating with people and reading their body langauge.

At the very least, if EQ is a form of intelligence, it's a lot more fluid and variable than IQ.

 

[yoshisand]

regardless i believe Having High EQ wil take you further in life because of trump, thomas edison(who got both departments) Actors models musicians. etc etc makes people like you more sets you up for more opprotunities your way. its easier in life to have a high eq

I've always chalked it up to parents being more effective at socializing their kids from young ages or the kid just being a bit more uninhibited than the rest (more likely to take risks).

I think intelligence is an innate, fixed attribute.
EQ isn't which is just another reason why I don't consider it a form of intelligence but an important skill nonetheless.

 

[Snicket]

regardless i believe Having High EQ wil take you further in life because of trump, thomas edison(who got both departments) Actors models musicians. etc etc makes people like you more sets you up for more opprotunities your way.

I agree that emotional and social aptitude (you call it EQ) is very important in life.

its easier in life to have a high eq

Which is why I consider it a skill and not a form of intelligence.

 

[yoshisand]

Intelligence broadly measures your ability to assimilate new information. Being more knowledgable about something doesn't make you more intelligent than someone else who knows less about it.

I agree that certain personality traits are inheritable and I think that's a major factor behind why some kids are more sociable than others.
Despite this, I still believe EQ is just a skill - not a form of intelligence.
You can't go from 100 IQ to 150 IQ but you can get better at communicating with people and reading their body langauge.

At the very least, if EQ is a form of intelligence, it's a lot more fluid and variable than IQ.

you do realize you dont have the same iq forever right? it peaks and decreases just like with eq. You can start learning how to be more social now. but youll never beat the kid whos parents put him in acting classes soccer team etc to hammer it in political debates so he doesn't shy away from opposition. Everything in life is not rigid it flows.

 

[yoshisand]

I agree that emotional and social aptitude (you call it EQ) is very important in life.

Which is why I consider it a skill and not a form of intelligence.

yeah well life in (school makes it easier for you to learn new things its also the same with your IQ) Although EQ>IQ due to the sheer amount opprotunities you get

 

[Snicket]

you do realize you dont have the same iq forever right?

I know. The brain deteriorates and your IQ along with it.
The point still stands that you can't become gain 20 IQ points through lifestyle changes.

You can start learning how to be more social now. but youll never beat the kid whos parents put him in acting classes soccer team etc to hammer it in political debates so he doesn't shy away from opposition.

Okay. Using your analogy, one kid is just more skilled than the other due to more social exposure.
This is why EQ is a skill imo and not a form of intellect.

I agree that "EQ" is very important though in life though.

 

[Snicket]

Although EQ>IQ due to the sheer amount opprotunities you get

It's not either or: you need both.
IQ is a great predictor of income earnings and using emotional "intelligence" to navigate office politics is important as well.

 

[yoshisand]

I know. The brain deteriorates and your IQ along with it.
The point still stands that you can't become gain 20 IQ points through lifestyle changes.

Okay. Using your analogy, one kid is just more skilled than the other due to more social exposure.
This is why EQ is a skill imo and not a form of intellect.

I agree that "EQ" is very important though in life though.

yeah using my same analogy, one kid is more skilled than the other because he enrolled into school earlier than the other kid making his iq higher on average.
this is why i don't like iq charts because how many children get the chance to learn in africa when you could be sent to war die from a preventable disease take care of your brothers and sisters school would be the least og your concerns

 

[yoshisand]

It's not either or: you need both.
IQ is a great predictor of income earnings and using emotional "intelligence" to navigate office politics is important as well.

high IQ + High EQ is rare enough
but id personally substitute the high iq for rich parents
so i can live an easy neurotypical life with a nice job doing nothing
people overestimate iq and what it does for you
if you have high iq and shit eq. some random con artist would give you a bs deal and youd have to agree to it becuase he knows more people than you think of thomas edison. (HIGH IQ + HIGH EQ) and nikola tesla(HIGH IQ LOW EQ).

 

[Snicket]

yeah using my same analogy, one kid is more skilled than the other because he enrolled into school earlier than the other kid making his iq higher on average.

You're really going to argue that IQ is just as variable as communication skills?

In developed countries, everyone goes to school at roughly the same time so big environmental variations are less important here.

this is why i don't like iq charts because how many children get the chance to learn in africa when you could be sent to war die from a preventable disease take care of your brothers and sisters school would be the least og your concerns

We're not in Africa. I think it's disingenuous to benchmark against illiterate African children who have no education and die from cholera.

 

[yoshisand]

You're really going to argue that IQ is just as variable as communication skills?

In developed countries, everyone goes to school at roughly the same time so big environmental variations are less important here.


We're not in Africa. I don't think it's disingenuous to benchmark against illiterate African children who have no education and die from cholera.

YES i am. it increases and decreases just lke EQ. Its not set in stone just like it flows just like EQ.

 

[Snicket]

if you have high iq and shit eq. some random con artist would give you a bs deal and youd have to agree to it becuase he knows more people than you think of thomas edison. (HIGH IQ + HIGH EQ) and nikola tesla(HIGH IQ LOW EQ).

This cuts both ways, a guy with a high eq and low iq isn't going to get very far.

If you read my post, I said being socially adept and having a good iq is important.
I place greater emphasis on iq because it's far less variable and more difficult to change.

 

[Snicket]

YES i am. it increases and decreases just lke EQ. Its not set in stone just like it flows just like EQ.

So you think you can go from 100 to 150 IQ ?

 

[yoshisand]

This cuts both ways, a guy with a high eq and low iq isn't going to get very far.

If you read my post, I said being socially adept and having a good iq is important.
I place greater emphasis on iq because it's far less variable and more difficult to change.

of course. being balanced in everything goes very far in everywhere you go.
however, your viewing iq as something as to accomplish to pedestalize to say wow and gawk at. how many people from history do you know had low eq that the average person would remember to this day.
more of how many inventors in history have had the right methods and perfect methods and couldn't communicare properly so that they were hanged beaten and had various things thrown at them. EQ>> IQ

 

[yoshisand]

So you think you can go from 100 to 150 IQ ?

NO. but i believe that you can go from 145 IQ Peak at 150 then drop down to 148 and sometimes even lower if your brain starts to turn on you alzhemers dementia cancer etc etc

 

[Snicket]

of course. being balanced in everything goes very far in everywhere you go.
however, your viewing iq as something as to accomplish to pedestalize

When did I say this. My whole point is that IQ is inherent and therefore not something than can be accomplished.

to say wow and gawk at.

IQ is a great indicator of income earnings according to multiple studies.

how many people from history do you know had low eq that the average person would remember to this day.
more of how many inventors in history have had the right methods and perfect methods and couldn't communicare properly so that they were hanged beaten and had various things thrown at them. EQ>> IQ

I don't believe in EQ. It's made up pseudo science.

 

[Snicket]

NO. but i believe that you can go from 145 IQ Peak at 150 then drop down to 148

That's a marginal variation at best.
Yet with EQ I could go from barely being able to talk to someone to becoming an excellent communicator with enough practice.

and sometimes even lower if your brain starts to turn on you alzhemers dementia cancer etc etc

This is brain death and not relevant to our dicussion.

 

[yoshisand]

When did I say this. My whole point is that IQ is inherent and therefore not something than can be accomplished.

IQ is a great indicator of income earnings according to multiple studies.

I don't believe in EQ. It's made up pseudo science.

hey its completely fine if you don't believe in EQ some people have higher EQ the presidents the leaders the billionares the con artist the people WHO WIN in life. a
nd the HIGH IQ people the people that go through life are to high inhib to start a conversation. say to much lose the deal. but hey they have an easy way to school right they have an easy way to college right they now how to solve 1+1 Quicker than me right ?

 

[Snicket]

hey its completely fine if you don't believe in EQ some people have higher EQ the presidents the leaders the billionares the con artist the people WHO WIN in life. a
nd the HIGH IQ people the people that go through life are to high inhib to start a conversation. say to much lose the deal. but hey they have an easy way to school right they have an easy way to college right they now how to solve 1+1 Quicker than me right ?

I think this argument is sort of academic. I don't think EQ is real.

But I think social and emotional skills in addition to IQ are very important in life

 

[yoshisand]

That's a marginal variation at best.
Yet with EQ I could go from barely being able to talk to someone to becoming an excellent communicator with enough practice.

This is brain death and not relevant to our dicussion.

but you said IQ was stable didn't you same with EQ don't contradict yourself man. that goes for everything in life an average guy can go from a dunce to solving complex math equations. but complex math equations are too intimidating right? so they wont do it.
same with people can go from being socially inept to talking infront of a stadium but its too intimidating right only the people the best of the best can do that! HAVING IQ AND EQ is super important are both high indicators of things

 

[yoshisand]

I think this argument is sort of academic. I don't think EQ is real.

But I think social and emotional skills in addition to IQ are very important in life

it is real its simple to grasp some people can solve better than others
some people can communicate better than others.

 

[Snicket]

but you said IQ was stable didn't you same with EQ don't contradict yourself man.

I said IQ is subject to small variations over the course of your life (excepting dementia) while EQ is highly variable invalidating the idea it's a form of intelligence. It's not a contradiction. I explained my position very clearly.

HAVING IQ AND EQ is super important are both high indicators of things

I agree but I wouldn't call it EQ - just good emotional and social skills.

 

[Snicket]

it is real its simple to grasp some people can solve better than others

This is very difficult to change and is essentially an immutable attribute - bar some decline as your brain deteriorates.

some people can communicate better than others.

This can be improved dramatically with public speaking classes.

IQ = intelligence
EQ = glorified term for trainable emotional and social skills.

 

[Godera]

It means they dont want to be treated like shit by chad

 

[Deleted member 135202]

This is one of the most "sought after traits" in men

Yet no one can define this shit

It's a red fucking flag when people say it and don't know what it means

It's just a way to sound intelligent when it really means I don't know what I want I'll know based on vibes

I agree. I personally believe that emotional intelligence is the ability to understand your partners pov, reasonable communication, being able to admit when you’re wrong, and not being a dickhead basically.

 

[yoshisand]

I think this argument is sort of academic. I don't think EQ is real.

But I think social and emotional skills in addition to IQ are very important in life

only your benchmark cap level will help you low iq wont et far past elementary school med iq middle school high iq high school
eq is the same low eq people cant even present infront of a classroom

This is very difficult to change and is essentially an immutable attribute - bar some decline as your brain deteriorates.

This can be improved dramatically with public speaking classes.

IQ = intelligence
EQ = glorified term for trainable emotional and social skills.

it feels like im repeating myself to a brick wall this conversation is going no where good day

 

[looksmaxxed]

you can't measure eq, it doesn't exist.