Enclomiphene and Mild AI (like DIM)

[jtmax2]

To start im 15, 5'9 and around 140 pounds bodyweight, pretty athletic but sort of inconsistent gym. I've noticed that I generally have been looking low test and have terrible facial maturity. I've been looking at enclomiphene because of its accessibility (no pinning), and decent effectiveness. The only issue with it that Ive seen is the increased estrogen as a result, which I really wouldn't care about but I've heard that this can lead to growth plate fusion sooner than later. Im pretty sure that I have a decent bit of growth left in terms of height so I was considering using a supplement that mimics AI like DIM so combat the estrogen and still get the benefits of enclo. Let me know if this would work or if theres anything else I can do with enclo in order to keep growth plates open.

 

[nicbooststest]

To start im 15, 5'9 and around 140 pounds bodyweight, pretty athletic but sort of inconsistent gym. I've noticed that I generally have been looking low test and have terrible facial maturity. I've been looking at enclomiphene because of its accessibility (no pinning), and decent effectiveness. The only issue with it that Ive seen is the increased estrogen as a result, which I really wouldn't care about but I've heard that this can lead to growth plate fusion sooner than later. Im pretty sure that I have a decent bit of growth left in terms of height so I was considering using a supplement that mimics AI like DIM so combat the estrogen and still get the benefits of enclo. Let me know if this would work or if theres anything else I can do with enclo in order to keep growth plates open.

just do test and aromasin

 

[nonameidea]

To start im 15, 5'9 and around 140 pounds bodyweight, pretty athletic but sort of inconsistent gym. I've noticed that I generally have been looking low test and have terrible facial maturity. I've been looking at enclomiphene because of its accessibility (no pinning), and decent effectiveness. The only issue with it that Ive seen is the increased estrogen as a result, which I really wouldn't care about but I've heard that this can lead to growth plate fusion sooner than later. Im pretty sure that I have a decent bit of growth left in terms of height so I was considering using a supplement that mimics AI like DIM so combat the estrogen and still get the benefits of enclo. Let me know if this would work or if theres anything else I can do with enclo in order to keep growth plates open.

No point in enclo because it will most likely lower your test because ur at an age where testosterone production peaks. Best u can do is just test no AI or stay natty and just wait

 

[Toddricus]

Skip the AI, estrogen is needed for height, youre better off taking just enclo eating good sleeping good and youll grow fast and good

 

[insignia_]

To start im 15, 5'9 and around 140 pounds bodyweight, pretty athletic but sort of inconsistent gym. I've noticed that I generally have been looking low test and have terrible facial maturity. I've been looking at enclomiphene because of its accessibility (no pinning), and decent effectiveness. The only issue with it that Ive seen is the increased estrogen as a result, which I really wouldn't care about but I've heard that this can lead to growth plate fusion sooner than later. Im pretty sure that I have a decent bit of growth left in terms of height so I was considering using a supplement that mimics AI like DIM so combat the estrogen and still get the benefits of enclo. Let me know if this would work or if theres anything else I can do with enclo in order to keep growth plates open.

DIM wont do anything

 

[insignia_]

Skip the AI, estrogen is needed for height, youre better off taking just enclo eating good sleeping good and youll grow fast and good

Why would he want higher estrogen during puberty lmfao

Sure, insanely low E2 is bad but high estrogen isn’t good either

 

[Toddricus]

Why would he want higher estrogen during puberty lmfao

Sure, insanely low E2 is bad but high estrogen isn’t good either

nobodys arguing for high estrogen

the goal is to increase estrogen which is necessary for growth during a cycle

bc during a cycle youre an idiot to not eat well and sleep well so youll grow better then you can stop taking it or wtv