Enclomiphene & Proviron

[AscendOrDie26]

Facing secondary hypogonadism issues, early 20s.
I've exhausted my natural improvement capabilities: working out 4x/week minimum, eating clean, sleeping well, don't smoke, don't drink.
Doctors ordered to run this protocol daily for a month to assess my situation before resorting to TRT.

Enclomiphene 25mg
Mesterolone (Proviron) 25mg
DHEA 25mg
Zinc 25mg
D3 10000 IU + K2 4000 IU
Boron 6mg

This treatment was supposed to provide me with heightened libido primarily due to Proviron's DHT androgenic action and raise endogenous T production by stimulating LH and FSH.

Unfortunately I'm feeling exactly the same as before erection wise, no morning boners or urges either.

What was your experience on Enclo & Proviron?

 

[PharmaPhaggot]

Niggas will do anything but just pin some fuckibg test

 

[AscendOrDie26]

Niggas will do anything but just pin some fuckibg test

You think I want to softmax?
I hope you have no idea what I've been through and what I'm going through due to secondary hypogonadism.
My life is pointless as I can't do anything but pretend and I'm feeling horrible every single day.
I'm forced to take this protocol for a month and update the Doctors with results before they allow me to do TRT.

 

[Jeremy Meeks]

Why would a doctor prescribe proviron for hypogondaism? please tell him to drop his Indian degree.

Enclomiphene is not a bad idea but if I were you I’d just start doing subq test e daily.

 

[PharmaPhaggot]

You think I want to softmax?
I hope you have no idea what I've been through and what I'm going through due to secondary hypogonadism.
My life is pointless as I can't do anything but pretend and I'm feeling horrible every single day.
I'm forced to take this protocol for a month and update the Doctors with results before they allow me to do TRT.

Yeah the enclo is gonna be useless when youre on proviron so youre gonna have 0 test and 0 e2, youre gonna feel even worse than youre feeling now

Find a new doctor, these are fucking retards

 

[Jeremy Meeks]

You think I want to softmax?
I hope you have no idea what I've been through and what I'm going through due to secondary hypogonadism.
My life is pointless as I can't do anything but pretend and I'm feeling horrible every single day.
I'm forced to take this protocol for a month and update the Doctors with results before they allow me to do TRT.

You could start pinning test propionate and get off when it doesn’t show up anymore in serum t blood tests. I don’t know how long that is look that up yourself and just tell the doc that you took the stuff but you don’t feel better.

Also if he prescribes patches or gel, and doesn’t want to prescribe oil even after you ask him, switch doctors(you probably should already, because of the proviron) or go and buy UGL

 

[AscendOrDie26]

Why would a doctor prescribe proviron for hypogondaism? please tell him to drop his Indian degree.

Enclomiphene is not a bad idea but if I were you I’d just start doing subq test e daily.

Test is not widely available in my fucking third world country and most doctors are clueless about it.
You have to get it prescribed by an endocrinologist and due to my young age they're anything but willing to do so.
There are almost no clinics, only 2-3 doctors that you have to resort to.
I assume they want to be legally covered by trying to raise endogenous levels at first and also assess my system's response to the pills.

 

[Jeremy Meeks]

Test is not widely available in my fucking third world country and most doctors are clueless about it.
You have to get it prescribed by an endocrinologist and due to my young age they're anything but willing to do so.
There are almost no clinics, only 2-3 doctors that you have to resort to.
I assume they want to be legally covered by trying to raise endogenous levels at first and also assess my system's response to the pills.

So I was correct in assuming that he has an Indian Degree lol.

Also the proviron makes more sense, maybe he wants to give you some “symptom relief” before putting you on trt.

Also testosterone is easier to get in the third world than in the first as long as you have pharmacies.

There is always also the black market(UGLs)

 

[PharmaPhaggot]

assume they want to be legally covered by trying to raise endogenous levels at first and also assess my system's response to the pills.

So they decide to add exogenous androgens?

Go to a ugl or do nothing

 

[AscendOrDie26]

So I was correct in assuming that he has an Indian Degree lol.

Also the proviron makes more sense, maybe he wants to give you some “symptom relief” before putting you on trt.

Also testosterone is easier to get in the third world than in the first as long as you have pharmacies.

There is always also the black market(UGLs)

I'm in the Balkans, at least Indians have Indiamart.
Symptom relief is another reason but I'm not seeing any improvements even after combining with tadalafil.

I have no knowledge of UGL and no contacts.

I don't want to resort to the black market without exhausting all legal means.
I love my family and I feel like I owe to them.
I don't want to be a fool and die or get myself in a shitload of medical bills because my dose was tampered with.

I want my life to be improved and I will do whatever it takes regardless so I pray that I don't have to resort to UGL.

 

[Jeremy Meeks]

I'm in the Balkans, at least Indians have Indiamart.
Symptom relief is another reason but I'm not seeing any improvements even after combining with tadalafil.

I have no knowledge of UGL and no contacts.

lol I’m from the balkans too, when you said 3rd world I was thinking you were typing from the slums of Nigeria.

There are infinite guides on here already on how to purchase roids, look on meso rx or here for sources.

 

[AscendOrDie26]

lol I’m from the balkans too, when you said 3rd world I was thinking you were typing from the slums of Nigeria.

There are infinite guides on here already on how to purchase roids, look on meso rx or here for sources.

Can you DM me?
I can't message you.

 

[sdram4]

Facing secondary hypogonadism issues, early 20s.
I've exhausted my natural improvement capabilities: working out 4x/week minimum, eating clean, sleeping well, don't smoke, don't drink.
Doctors ordered to run this protocol daily for a month to assess my situation before resorting to TRT.

Enclomiphene 25mg
Mesterolone (Proviron) 25mg
DHEA 25mg
Zinc 25mg
D3 10000 IU + K2 4000 IU
Boron 6mg

This treatment was supposed to provide me with heightened libido primarily due to Proviron's DHT androgenic action and raise endogenous T production by stimulating LH and FSH.

Unfortunately I'm feeling exactly the same as before erection wise, no morning boners or urges either.

What was your experience on Enclo & Proviron?

does dhea do anything in non-deficient patients i heard it aromatizes extremely easily
i cant pin rn personally so i have no idea how to make a stack/cycle of my own that doesnt aromatize or suppress harsh without injecting. it's basically impossible

 

[wheyfart]

Based doctors prescription

Facing secondary hypogonadism issues, early 20s.
I've exhausted my natural improvement capabilities: working out 4x/week minimum, eating clean, sleeping well, don't smoke, don't drink.
Doctors ordered to run this protocol daily for a month to assess my situation before resorting to TRT.

Enclomiphene 25mg
Mesterolone (Proviron) 25mg
DHEA 25mg
Zinc 25mg
D3 10000 IU + K2 4000 IU
Boron 6mg

This treatment was supposed to provide me with heightened libido primarily due to Proviron's DHT androgenic action and raise endogenous T production by stimulating LH and FSH.

Unfortunately I'm feeling exactly the same as before erection wise, no morning boners or urges either.

What was your experience on Enclo & Proviron?