Enclomiphene with MK

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Would taking Enclomiphene be worth taking with MK to make sure you gain more lean mass without as much fat gain?
MK alone is decently useful but pairing with enclomiphene seems like a better option, except for the lowered IGF-1.
 
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nigga what just pin test. its cheaper than sourcing actual enclomiphene
 
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I ran this when I was broke and 15 and I made decent gains, but still got a bit fat. IMO better than nothing.
 
Would taking Enclomiphene be worth taking with MK to make sure you gain more lean mass without as much fat gain?
MK alone is decently useful but pairing with enclomiphene seems like a better option, except for the lowered IGF-1.
mk in the big 26:lul:
 
Would taking Enclomiphene be worth taking with MK to make sure you gain more lean mass without as much fat gain?
MK alone is decently useful but pairing with enclomiphene seems like a better option, except for the lowered IGF-1.
from somebody who tried it DON T waste your money on ts absolutely zero gains
 
Would taking Enclomiphene be worth taking with MK to make sure you gain more lean mass without as much fat gain?
MK alone is decently useful but pairing with enclomiphene seems like a better option, except for the lowered IGF-1.
What did you decide for this? I lowkey might do it.
 
I ran this when I was broke and 15 and I made decent gains, but still got a bit fat. IMO better than nothing.
Did u not grow after or nah, everyone is always talking about "enclo closes growth plates muhhh" and never actually gives any reason why.
 
Enclo defiantly increases E2, I would’ve skipped it if I were 15
 
Ahh mb, i was just talking to people about sarms i got them on the mind, i meant if you didnt take enclo.
Nah I doubt I would have grown any more anyway. Like I said my growth velocity was already basically 0.
 
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Enclo defiantly increases E2, I would’ve skipped it if I were 15
I mean it increases e2 yeah, thats not the issue with enclo. The issue is it agonizes e2 at bones, and in turn growth plates. We dont really know if it closes growth plates quicker tho, this is just speculation.
 
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Nah I doubt I would have grown any more anyway. Like I said my growth velocity was already basically 0.
I mean 5'11 at 15, unless your dad was like 6'2+ then yeah ur prolly done growing.
 
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I mean it increases e2 yeah, thats not the issue with enclo. The issue is it agonizes e2 at bones, and in turn growth plates. We dont really know if it closes growth plates quicker tho, this is just speculation.
Isn’t it an antagonist? Or just a weak agonist?

Even if it didn’t agonize bone ERs, higher E2 would always lead to faster closure no?
 
Isn’t it an antagonist? Or just a weak agonist?

Even if it didn’t agonize bone ERs, higher E2 would always lead to faster closure no?
Sorta, i mean thats a dumb way to look at it, "high e2 = fast closure" so black and white, i mean the effect you have from having a higher e2, while it still being in the reference range, is miniscule, same thing for a lower e2 in the reference range. You need to have it be either really nuked, or really high to have effects of growth plates, if we are just talking about e2 blood levels. But it definitively agonizes bone ER, it was used for some osteopersosis treatment studies forever ago, for this reason, of course it didnt work well cause its fucking enclo, but there was effect seen.
 
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