Ending the body coping: 99% of guys with any muscle/good body are on ROIDS

[Deleted member 22627]

UGHHHH dude you motherfuckers need to take a trip to /fit/ like I had these same arguments 2 fucking years ago to newfags on there. Strength training and hypertrophy are two different things. Compound 5x5 workouts will still cause hypertrophy, but not as much as isolated 3x10 or something like that. This is why you go to a gym and see guys who look like doughballs deadlifting 6 plates, and you see guys who look absolutely stacked doing machine workouts and weird dumbbell shit. Also olympian statues are insanely jacked alot of them had muscles that dont even exist on the human body. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28834797/

From the paper: The findings indicate that maximal strength benefits are obtained from the use of heavy loads while muscle hypertrophy can be equally achieved across a spectrum of loading ranges.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25853914/ High load vs Low Load.
These findings indicate that both HL and LL training to failure can elicit significant increases in muscle hypertrophy among well-trained young men; however, HL training is superior for maximizing strength adaptations.


Muscles don't know the difference between 5 reps or 8 or whatever. I'm no Mark Rippertoe 5x5 faggot but I'm reasonably sure one could achieve good muscular development in that rep range as easily as 3x10 if you did reasonable exercises.

Even if there is a significant difference both would eventually reach natty limit so I'm not sure what you are arguing here.

Been working out for a long time so don't need some dyel fgt telling me his bro science.

 

[Manu le coq]

Permanent shutdown is meme

Elab

 

[Sleeper]

LIterally that is it for you bodycopers ... Any guy who has good, visible, "showy muscles" is almost guaranteed to be on gear.

All beefy Hollywood guys are on cycle. Stop coping with muh muh they aren't big Mr. Olympia guys, most guys on gear don't have to be THAT big. No, only RARELY will you ever get a combo of being lean (near six pack) while also having size (over 23 FFMI).

All pro athletes use gear, because -- even if they aren't using for size -- they use for performance.

Users like @Amnesia and @Arborist are both on gear and won't tell anyone since they're both lying autists and copers (don't even need to explain Amnesia, the guy is almost a joke at this point since I've dug in to his shit to see he's evidently quite full of it). No normal guy can put on any real size without gear, just look at pictures of men 100+ years ago before steroids/anabolic agents existed, guys looked like this with > 1,000+ ng/dl. If this is the best "genetically gifted" men could do before roids, why is every YouTube nigga bigger now and more filled out? Why are so many here suddenly blowing up & shredding down? Why does Amnesia have capped, 3-D delts, size & low bodyfat? Why is this autistic, basement dweller Arborist look like a fucking water balloon? You're telling me you think they just decided to workout and that is the story? LMAO That the difference between someone like Amnesia or Arborist or etc. and elite bodybuilders 100 years ago is ... Hard work? LOL Never mind the fact that Amnesia is a liar overall ... You gotta believe him when he says he's natty, right?

These were the HEY DAYS of mankind ... REAL men with high T, high sense of purpose, not incel men of today ... Yet look at how small they are. It can't all be muh genetics, these are guys from various backgrounds, notably those with the supposed "superior" genetics AKA Germans for one, but look like shit. Somehow the genetically "elite" Germans couldn't gain an oz. of muscle 100 years ago, but now every motherfucker under the sun is carrying around canonball fuckin delts and weighs nearly 200 lbs. at 12% bodyfat & 5'9" is not questioned at all.

You're telling me the faggots on here with 200 ng/dl of testosterone suddenly have nearly single digit bf% levels while being 5'9" manlets & weighing >180 lbs.? You also believe in these too? Because if some liars on here say it's the truth, it must be, right?

WAKE THE FUCK UP! There are almost zero zoomers/millennials who would be near single digit bf% and have so much muscle on them, it's literally almost impossible except for maybe 1% of guys max. So it's quite easy to see who's the bullshitter or not.

IT'S NOT EVEN MUH GENETICS IT'S FAX. NORMAL MEN ARE NOT MEANT TO BE GIGALEAN + MUSCLY. IF PRIME MEN 100 YEARS OF AGO DIDN'T, FEW ESPECIALLY NOW WILL.

Your days of coping are over ... Your false idols KinoBuddy, Betadestiny, etc. are all roided:

100% and to further drive the point home, heres what Arnold, probably the most famous bodybuilder that will ever live and considered to have one of the best physiques of all time and also roiding and working out since he was either 13 or 16 so genetic potential is pushed beyond its own limits through repeated cycles during youth. And yet it all melts away the instant he comes off juice. Search Arnold off season and these are the first images that come up. Search up any one of the gigamass freaks in their off season and see what their actually physique looked like even with the worlds best nutrionists, trainers and years of steroids

 

[Deleted member 20704]

100% and to further drive the point home, heres what Arnold, probably the most famous bodybuilder that will ever live and considered to have one of the best physiques of all time and also roiding and working out since he was either 13 or 16 so genetic potential is pushed beyond its own limits through repeated cycles during youth. And yet it all melts away the instant he comes off juice. Search Arnold off season and these are the first images that come up. Search up any one of the gigamass freaks in their off season and see what their actually physique looked like even with the worlds best nutrionists, trainers and years of steroids

LMAO I've never searched/seen Arnold "off" his stack or cycles so this is interesting to see.

He looks like a middle-aged construction worker/beefy looking natty when off, but STARK contrast to when he's on ... Day and night almost.

He's big natty too but not cut/shredded ever, else he'd look WAY smaller if he got to his stage bf% without being on ~500 testosterone.

Arnold could only get his picturesque stage-perfect look with gear, no questions ... Without it he'd just be a beefy natty, or medium lean guy.

 

[Prettyboy]

This whole post is just projection of Op’s lazyness

Being 10% bodyfat is the norm as a male if you dont indulge in carbs

 

[Deleted member 20704]

This whole post is just projection of Op’s lazyness

Being 10% bodyfat is the norm as a male if you dont indulge in carbs

Don't even bothering showing me pics of you, this is most definitely what you look like:

And without the layers on:

Spoiler: Uhhh

Carbs increase glycogen, testosterone, reduce stress, give energy, increase lifespan and happiness and are NORMAL + BENEFICIAL for optimal men. ZERO evidence carbs make guys fat or are bad, it's only SUBoptimal men that gotta starve to be a boneless, sickly twink.

A faggot starving himself to be unnaturally lean with insanely abnormal diet restrictions is NOT a natural state of the archetypal man before 2000. Only today are men starving themselves/restricting the very things that make you enjoy life to be muh lean "prettyboy" delusion.

 

[Gengar]

LIterally that is it for you bodycopers ... Any guy who has good, visible, "showy muscles" is almost guaranteed to be on gear.

All beefy Hollywood guys are on cycle. Stop coping with muh muh they aren't big Mr. Olympia guys, most guys on gear don't have to be THAT big. No, only RARELY will you ever get a combo of being lean (near six pack) while also having size (over 23 FFMI).

All pro athletes use gear, because -- even if they aren't using for size -- they use for performance.

Users like @Amnesia and @Arborist are both on gear and won't tell anyone since they're both lying autists and copers (don't even need to explain Amnesia, the guy is almost a joke at this point since I've dug in to his shit to see he's evidently quite full of it). No normal guy can put on any real size without gear, just look at pictures of men 100+ years ago before steroids/anabolic agents existed, guys looked like this with > 1,000+ ng/dl. If this is the best "genetically gifted" men could do before roids, why is every YouTube nigga bigger now and more filled out? Why are so many here suddenly blowing up & shredding down? Why does Amnesia have capped, 3-D delts, size & low bodyfat? Why is this autistic, basement dweller Arborist look like a fucking water balloon? You're telling me you think they just decided to workout and that is the story? LMAO That the difference between someone like Amnesia or Arborist or etc. and elite bodybuilders 100 years ago is ... Hard work? LOL Never mind the fact that Amnesia is a liar overall ... You gotta believe him when he says he's natty, right?

These were the HEY DAYS of mankind ... REAL men with high T, high sense of purpose, not incel men of today ... Yet look at how small they are. It can't all be muh genetics, these are guys from various backgrounds, notably those with the supposed "superior" genetics AKA Germans for one, but look like shit. Somehow the genetically "elite" Germans couldn't gain an oz. of muscle 100 years ago, but now every motherfucker under the sun is carrying around canonball fuckin delts and weighs nearly 200 lbs. at 12% bodyfat & 5'9" is not questioned at all.

You're telling me the faggots on here with 200 ng/dl of testosterone suddenly have nearly single digit bf% levels while being 5'9" manlets & weighing >180 lbs.? You also believe in these too? Because if some liars on here say it's the truth, it must be, right?

WAKE THE FUCK UP! There are almost zero zoomers/millennials who would be near single digit bf% and have so much muscle on them, it's literally almost impossible except for maybe 1% of guys max. So it's quite easy to see who's the bullshitter or not.

IT'S NOT EVEN MUH GENETICS IT'S FAX. NORMAL MEN ARE NOT MEANT TO BE GIGALEAN + MUSCLY. IF PRIME MEN 100 YEARS OF AGO DIDN'T, FEW ESPECIALLY NOW WILL.

Your days of coping are over ... Your false idols KinoBuddy, Betadestiny, etc. are all roided:

My friend isn't on anything. He's the 1% genetics. He's blasian so he got the best of two worlds.

 

[dreamcake1mo]

Glad im not the only one who pointed this out op.

So many liers and decieevd people here. Really, roiding is a huge gatekept secret for 99% of men.

T makes your bones big and high t since birth would likely make you skinny and high metab. This thick shredded gymroid look is a combination of high E estrogenic fat distribution/bone structure + high artificial hormones.

I swear it looks so stupid to see. The shredded look is dork anyways. Ironically if you have enough rizz and style(money) u can literally bypass lightspeed all of those normie looksmaxxing copes like gym body.

 

[dreamcake1mo]

Glad im not the only one who pointed this out op.

So many liars and deceive here. Really, roiding is one of the hugest gatekept secret for men.

T makes your bones big and high t since birth would likely make you skinny and high metab. This thick shredded gymroid look is a combination of high E estrogenic fat distribution/bone structure + high artificial hormones. This is for those, the prized genetic. Its not realistic in 99% cases to achieve those high levels in both hormones without artificial assistance.

People really dont think its common? Im pretty sure they weren't observant enough. People take HGH and T in highschool (especially football leagues)

I swear it looks so stupid to see. The shredded look is dork anyways. Ironically if you have enough rizz and style(money) u can literally bypass lightspeed all of those normie looksmaxxing copes like gym body. A gut might even be better for women if it can increase your overall frame/size.

 

[Chinacurry]

LIterally that is it for you bodycopers ... Any guy who has good, visible, "showy muscles" is almost guaranteed to be on gear.

All beefy Hollywood guys are on cycle. Stop coping with muh muh they aren't big Mr. Olympia guys, most guys on gear don't have to be THAT big. No, only RARELY will you ever get a combo of being lean (near six pack) while also having size (over 23 FFMI).

All pro athletes use gear, because -- even if they aren't using for size -- they use for performance.

Users like @Amnesia and @Arborist are both on gear and won't tell anyone since they're both lying autists and copers (don't even need to explain Amnesia, the guy is almost a joke at this point since I've dug in to his shit to see he's evidently quite full of it). No normal guy can put on any real size without gear, just look at pictures of men 100+ years ago before steroids/anabolic agents existed, guys looked like this with > 1,000+ ng/dl. If this is the best "genetically gifted" men could do before roids, why is every YouTube nigga bigger now and more filled out? Why are so many here suddenly blowing up & shredding down? Why does Amnesia have capped, 3-D delts, size & low bodyfat? Why is this autistic, basement dweller Arborist look like a fucking water balloon? You're telling me you think they just decided to workout and that is the story? LMAO That the difference between someone like Amnesia or Arborist or etc. and elite bodybuilders 100 years ago is ... Hard work? LOL Never mind the fact that Amnesia is a liar overall ... You gotta believe him when he says he's natty, right?

These were the HEY DAYS of mankind ... REAL men with high T, high sense of purpose, not incel men of today ... Yet look at how small they are. It can't all be muh genetics, these are guys from various backgrounds, notably those with the supposed "superior" genetics AKA Germans for one, but look like shit. Somehow the genetically "elite" Germans couldn't gain an oz. of muscle 100 years ago, but now every motherfucker under the sun is carrying around canonball fuckin delts and weighs nearly 200 lbs. at 12% bodyfat & 5'9" is not questioned at all.

You're telling me the faggots on here with 200 ng/dl of testosterone suddenly have nearly single digit bf% levels while being 5'9" manlets & weighing >180 lbs.? You also believe in these too? Because if some liars on here say it's the truth, it must be, right?

WAKE THE FUCK UP! There are almost zero zoomers/millennials who would be near single digit bf% and have so much muscle on them, it's literally almost impossible except for maybe 1% of guys max. So it's quite easy to see who's the bullshitter or not.

IT'S NOT EVEN MUH GENETICS IT'S FAX. NORMAL MEN ARE NOT MEANT TO BE GIGALEAN + MUSCLY. IF PRIME MEN 100 YEARS OF AGO DIDN'T, FEW ESPECIALLY NOW WILL.

Your days of coping are over ... Your false idols KinoBuddy, Betadestiny, etc. are all roided:

I mean you are 100% right, u can be small and ripped, or big and not ripped, there is no alternative if you're natty.

The problem is foids don't perceive this, for 2 reasons.

1) they see the YT, insta, tiktok, hemsworth guys who are 18 and built better than Mr universe from 1960s, and believe that's normal, same as how their tiny brains believe chad faces are normal.

2) they genuinely can't perceive visually any better than a bat, so often they see the peak ok natty, say Brad Pitt fight club, and think he's some super jacked dude, they don't realise he's DYEL in clothes, and nowadays most nattys who get enough protein and creatine have more muscle mass than him

 

[Chinacurry]

LIterally that is it for you bodycopers ... Any guy who has good, visible, "showy muscles" is almost guaranteed to be on gear.

All beefy Hollywood guys are on cycle. Stop coping with muh muh they aren't big Mr. Olympia guys, most guys on gear don't have to be THAT big. No, only RARELY will you ever get a combo of being lean (near six pack) while also having size (over 23 FFMI).

All pro athletes use gear, because -- even if they aren't using for size -- they use for performance.

Users like @Amnesia and @Arborist are both on gear and won't tell anyone since they're both lying autists and copers (don't even need to explain Amnesia, the guy is almost a joke at this point since I've dug in to his shit to see he's evidently quite full of it). No normal guy can put on any real size without gear, just look at pictures of men 100+ years ago before steroids/anabolic agents existed, guys looked like this with > 1,000+ ng/dl. If this is the best "genetically gifted" men could do before roids, why is every YouTube nigga bigger now and more filled out? Why are so many here suddenly blowing up & shredding down? Why does Amnesia have capped, 3-D delts, size & low bodyfat? Why is this autistic, basement dweller Arborist look like a fucking water balloon? You're telling me you think they just decided to workout and that is the story? LMAO That the difference between someone like Amnesia or Arborist or etc. and elite bodybuilders 100 years ago is ... Hard work? LOL Never mind the fact that Amnesia is a liar overall ... You gotta believe him when he says he's natty, right?

These were the HEY DAYS of mankind ... REAL men with high T, high sense of purpose, not incel men of today ... Yet look at how small they are. It can't all be muh genetics, these are guys from various backgrounds, notably those with the supposed "superior" genetics AKA Germans for one, but look like shit. Somehow the genetically "elite" Germans couldn't gain an oz. of muscle 100 years ago, but now every motherfucker under the sun is carrying around canonball fuckin delts and weighs nearly 200 lbs. at 12% bodyfat & 5'9" is not questioned at all.

You're telling me the faggots on here with 200 ng/dl of testosterone suddenly have nearly single digit bf% levels while being 5'9" manlets & weighing >180 lbs.? You also believe in these too? Because if some liars on here say it's the truth, it must be, right?

WAKE THE FUCK UP! There are almost zero zoomers/millennials who would be near single digit bf% and have so much muscle on them, it's literally almost impossible except for maybe 1% of guys max. So it's quite easy to see who's the bullshitter or not.

IT'S NOT EVEN MUH GENETICS IT'S FAX. NORMAL MEN ARE NOT MEANT TO BE GIGALEAN + MUSCLY. IF PRIME MEN 100 YEARS OF AGO DIDN'T, FEW ESPECIALLY NOW WILL.

Your days of coping are over ... Your false idols KinoBuddy, Betadestiny, etc. are all roided:

I mean you are 100% right, u can be small and ripped, or big and not ripped, there is no alternative if you're natty.

The problem is foids don't perceive this, for 2 reasons.

1) they see the YT, insta, tiktok, hemsworth guys who are 18 and built better than Mr universe from 1960s, and believe that's normal, same as how their tiny brains believe chad faces are normal.

2) they genuinely can't perceive visually any better than a bat, so often they see the peak ok natty, say Brad Pitt fight club, and think he's some super jacked dude, they don't realise he's DYEL in clothes, and nowadays most nattys who get enough protein and creatine have more muscle mass than him

 

[Prettyboy]

Don't even bothering showing me pics of you, this is most definitely what you look like:

And without the layers on:

Spoiler: Uhhh

Carbs increase glycogen, testosterone, reduce stress, give energy, increase lifespan and happiness and are NORMAL + BENEFICIAL for optimal men. ZERO evidence carbs make guys fat or are bad, it's only SUBoptimal men that gotta starve to be a boneless, sickly twink.

A faggot starving himself to be unnaturally lean with insanely abnormal diet restrictions is NOT a natural state of the archetypal man before 2000. Only today are men starving themselves/restricting the very things that make you enjoy life to be muh lean "prettyboy" delusion.

Who is starving himself? I eat 3 000 + calories yet as lean it gets. Carbs make you fat, there’s no way around it

First you cry because you cannot get a good physique naturally then lecture us on why we, who can are larpers

 

[klip11]

LIterally that is it for you bodycopers ... Any guy who has good, visible, "showy muscles" is almost guaranteed to be on gear.

All beefy Hollywood guys are on cycle. Stop coping with muh muh they aren't big Mr. Olympia guys, most guys on gear don't have to be THAT big. No, only RARELY will you ever get a combo of being lean (near six pack) while also having size (over 23 FFMI).

All pro athletes use gear, because -- even if they aren't using for size -- they use for performance.

Users like @Amnesia and @Arborist are both on gear and won't tell anyone since they're both lying autists and copers (don't even need to explain Amnesia, the guy is almost a joke at this point since I've dug in to his shit to see he's evidently quite full of it). No normal guy can put on any real size without gear, just look at pictures of men 100+ years ago before steroids/anabolic agents existed, guys looked like this with > 1,000+ ng/dl. If this is the best "genetically gifted" men could do before roids, why is every YouTube nigga bigger now and more filled out? Why are so many here suddenly blowing up & shredding down? Why does Amnesia have capped, 3-D delts, size & low bodyfat? Why is this autistic, basement dweller Arborist look like a fucking water balloon? You're telling me you think they just decided to workout and that is the story? LMAO That the difference between someone like Amnesia or Arborist or etc. and elite bodybuilders 100 years ago is ... Hard work? LOL Never mind the fact that Amnesia is a liar overall ... You gotta believe him when he says he's natty, right?

These were the HEY DAYS of mankind ... REAL men with high T, high sense of purpose, not incel men of today ... Yet look at how small they are. It can't all be muh genetics, these are guys from various backgrounds, notably those with the supposed "superior" genetics AKA Germans for one, but look like shit. Somehow the genetically "elite" Germans couldn't gain an oz. of muscle 100 years ago, but now every motherfucker under the sun is carrying around canonball fuckin delts and weighs nearly 200 lbs. at 12% bodyfat & 5'9" is not questioned at all.

You're telling me the faggots on here with 200 ng/dl of testosterone suddenly have nearly single digit bf% levels while being 5'9" manlets & weighing >180 lbs.? You also believe in these too? Because if some liars on here say it's the truth, it must be, right?

WAKE THE FUCK UP! There are almost zero zoomers/millennials who would be near single digit bf% and have so much muscle on them, it's literally almost impossible except for maybe 1% of guys max. So it's quite easy to see who's the bullshitter or not.

IT'S NOT EVEN MUH GENETICS IT'S FAX. NORMAL MEN ARE NOT MEANT TO BE GIGALEAN + MUSCLY. IF PRIME MEN 100 YEARS OF AGO DIDN'T, FEW ESPECIALLY NOW WILL.

Your days of coping are over ... Your false idols KinoBuddy, Betadestiny, etc. are all roided:

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOÒOOOOOOÒOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

 

[stamaster21]

LIterally that is it for you bodycopers ... Any guy who has good, visible, "showy muscles" is almost guaranteed to be on gear.

All beefy Hollywood guys are on cycle. Stop coping with muh muh they aren't big Mr. Olympia guys, most guys on gear don't have to be THAT big. No, only RARELY will you ever get a combo of being lean (near six pack) while also having size (over 23 FFMI).

All pro athletes use gear, because -- even if they aren't using for size -- they use for performance.

Users like @Amnesia and @Arborist are both on gear and won't tell anyone since they're both lying autists and copers (don't even need to explain Amnesia, the guy is almost a joke at this point since I've dug in to his shit to see he's evidently quite full of it). No normal guy can put on any real size without gear, just look at pictures of men 100+ years ago before steroids/anabolic agents existed, guys looked like this with > 1,000+ ng/dl. If this is the best "genetically gifted" men could do before roids, why is every YouTube nigga bigger now and more filled out? Why are so many here suddenly blowing up & shredding down? Why does Amnesia have capped, 3-D delts, size & low bodyfat? Why is this autistic, basement dweller Arborist look like a fucking water balloon? You're telling me you think they just decided to workout and that is the story? LMAO That the difference between someone like Amnesia or Arborist or etc. and elite bodybuilders 100 years ago is ... Hard work? LOL Never mind the fact that Amnesia is a liar overall ... You gotta believe him when he says he's natty, right?

These were the HEY DAYS of mankind ... REAL men with high T, high sense of purpose, not incel men of today ... Yet look at how small they are. It can't all be muh genetics, these are guys from various backgrounds, notably those with the supposed "superior" genetics AKA Germans for one, but look like shit. Somehow the genetically "elite" Germans couldn't gain an oz. of muscle 100 years ago, but now every motherfucker under the sun is carrying around canonball fuckin delts and weighs nearly 200 lbs. at 12% bodyfat & 5'9" is not questioned at all.

You're telling me the faggots on here with 200 ng/dl of testosterone suddenly have nearly single digit bf% levels while being 5'9" manlets & weighing >180 lbs.? You also believe in these too? Because if some liars on here say it's the truth, it must be, right?

WAKE THE FUCK UP! There are almost zero zoomers/millennials who would be near single digit bf% and have so much muscle on them, it's literally almost impossible except for maybe 1% of guys max. So it's quite easy to see who's the bullshitter or not.

IT'S NOT EVEN MUH GENETICS IT'S FAX. NORMAL MEN ARE NOT MEANT TO BE GIGALEAN + MUSCLY. IF PRIME MEN 100 YEARS OF AGO DIDN'T, FEW ESPECIALLY NOW WILL.

Your days of coping are over ... Your false idols KinoBuddy, Betadestiny, etc. are all roided:

I agree 100 percent most of these fitness influencers are on steroids/gear/trt or something. Protien and cretain powder will help maybe with 8-10 in strengh and volume.

 

[RetardSubhuman]

Yep, and this guy told me he got this size by following the right diet of top ramen and tuna, plus top of the line prison equipment+diet:

It's too bad only modern diets have pasta and tuna, this is why niggas in the 1900s was so small, they didn't get Japanese noodles + hood prison sentences which we all know make you 300 lbs. of muscle from the dedicated starches, salt and bending over to grab the soap + zero sunlight.

BBC genetics

 

[crosshold]

my physique was at its peak before i ever even started sarms/serms/roids. i actually look worse now while on something lol but i mainly attribute that to bodyfat%. i worked out 6 days a week with high protein intake thanks to protein powder and chicken diet. also creatine helped me look a lot more full.

so as someone who has been on both sides, if youre natural you have to try harder but you can still build a good physique

 

[Ethniframementalcel]

yep. this is a brutal pill

 

[SteveRogers]

Who is starving himself? I eat 3 000 + calories yet as lean it gets. Carbs make you fat, there’s no way around it

First you cry because you cannot get a good physique naturally then lecture us on why we, who can are larpers

I couldn’t believe my eyes when I saw his blue pilled response to you jfl.
@Keengo Carbs now increase lifespan?? Lolll
Literally just finished a massive 800g serving of homemade black pudding (technically blood sausage I guess, since I neglected the oats, but was a similar “mince” style dish), and somehow I’m starving myself, meanwhile gymcel normies scale their fucking oats and protein powder (ZERO nutrients what so ever) to make sure that they don’t go over their macros and get fat jfl.
I’ve also noticed a much better pump when I have blood a few hours beforehand, I’m assuming it’s the copper and heme iron, have you tried this?