ER made ethnic foid insecure. Also: media doesn't do shit

[Deleted member 2012]

This discussion stars with this thread I found:

Elliot Rodger made an ethnic girl insecure after going ER because he couldn't get a white girl and then she asked this and got a clown tier answer

OH YEAH TOTALLY, if it were left to nature, men would prefer women with 1:1 hip to waist ratios:

IS THAT A TRANNY OR A CHILD? CAN THIS WOMAN EVEN BIRTH A CHILD WITH THOSE HIPS?
WHY WOULD THAT BE THE MOST ATTRACTIVE EVOLUTIONARILY?
SPOILER: IT WOULDN'T

It's not just this, it applies to literally everything she said is only attractive because the media says so:

Why are black women less attractive?
Because melanin is correlated with testosterone, dark skin is a masculine trait. Men are darker than women on average. Sexual dimorphism 101.

Why are fat women less attractive?
Because it's unhealthy, unathletic, it hides the bone structure and it makes their whole body have repulsive saggy skin. It's a sign of unfitness.

Why are bald women less attractive?
Because long lustrous hair is a sign of youth and good health.

It's all biological. Our notion of what's attractive comes down to visual cues of youth, dimorphism and fitness, that's it. Our brain picks up on those automatically.

But according to these retards, if the media said so this would be the standard:

How normies can manage to still believe in this "beauty standards propagated by the media" meme... is beyond me. It's 2020.

 

[Deleted member 6191]

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[mysterycel]

Normies like this are Delusionpilled. They've likely been lied to their whole life. I imagine they would want state subsidized boyfriends to actually look at them before they actually produced anything of value let alone their appearance.

 

[Deleted member 6341]

Worrying about ethnic women is something I lack the time for.

 

[Deleted member 9488]

It’s all propaganda propagated by the jews to brainwash normies into thinking their natural attractions are “spread by the media”, so that they can get people to look more like cucks

 

[Cleftcel]

It’s all propaganda propagated by the jews to brainwash normies into thinking their natural attractions are “spread by the media”, so that they can get people to look more like cucks

fuck nice sig,never heard that song before, i like that dreamy sound and aesthetic. Lana Del Rey had quite a plastic surgery ascension from plain jane to bombshell

 

[Deleted member 6273]

For WHR she's coping tbh

Singh (1993) showed that WHR close to 0.7 is one of the most important markers of female attractiveness. Singh suggested that WHR is a reliable marker of reproductive abilities and women’s health. Many studies conducted both before and after Singh’s observation confirmed his hypothesis. First of all, WHR (distribution of adipose tissue) is a result of the activity of male and female sex hormones (Björntorp, 1991; Jasieńska, Ziomkiewicz, Ellison, Lipson, & Thune, 2004). Low WHR is also a reliable marker of probability of conception during in vitro fertilization (Waas, Waldenstrom, Rossner, & Hellberg, 1997). Additionally, the WHR of women decreases (becomes more attractive) during puberty and increases again after menopause (Kirschner & Samojlik, 1991). Finally, it was shown that low WHR is a reliable marker of a woman’s health (e.g., cardiovascular diseases, diabetes) (Singh, 2006).

Probably because of the relationship between reproductive health and WHR, this trait was suggested to be a relatively universal attractiveness marker. Similar results to the classical Singh (1993) study were obtained in, among others, Europe (e.g., Furnham, Tan, & McManus, 1997; Rozmus-Wrzesinska & Pawlowski, 2005), Indonesia (Singh & Luis, 1995), Guinea Bissau (Singh, 2004), Cameroon (Dixson et al., 2007), and Papua New Guinea (Dixson, Sagata et al., 2010). Therefore, it can be presumed that men’s attraction to women of certain body proportions might indicate a natural and universal preference for healthy and fertile partners.

Data obtained in a few hunter-gatherer societies, like the Hadza tribe from Tanzania, the Matsiguenka from Peru or the Shiwiar from Ecuador, showed that high WHR was preferred in women in such populations (Marlowe & Wetsman, 2001; Sugiyama, 2004; Wetsman & Marlowe, 1999; Yu & Shepard, 1998). A few hypotheses explaining such preferences exist, but generally it was suggested that it was a result of the stimuli used. In a recent study, Marlowe, Apicella, and Reed (2005) showed line drawings that varied in WHR with a profile view of a silhouette designed to look like a young Hadza woman whose buttocks were visible. In this study, Hadza men judged the 0.6 WHR to be most attractive.

Additionally, in non-industrialized populations, women of higher body mass are preferred (Cassidy, 1991) and silhouettes of higher WHR (when WHR is modified by changes in width of waist) are perceived as having higher body mass index (BMI) (Rozmus-Wrzesińska & Pawlowski, 2005). The question of whether female WHR is equally as important as Body Mass Index (BMI) in attractiveness ratings is currently under debate. On the one hand, some researchers suggest it is the BMI that drives mate selection, as it accounts for greater variance in attractiveness scores than WHR (Tovee, Maisey, Emery, & Cornelissen, 1999). On the other hand, many new studies have confirmed the high importance of WHR in perceiving female silhouettes. It has been shown that in both Western (Singh & Randall, 2007) and non-Western cultures (Dixson, Li, & Dixson, 2010; Singh, Dixson, Jessop, Morgan, & Dixson, 2010) women who had undergone micrograft surgery that decreased their WHR were judged to be most attractive regardless of fluctuations in their BMI. Further, Platek and Singh (2010) have shown, using fMRI brain scanning, that men’s brain areas concerned with reward showed significantly greater activation when they viewed post-operative, as compared to pre-operative, micrograft images

Judgments of Sexual Attractiveness: A Study of the Yali Tribe in Papua

Preferences for waist-to-hip ratio (WHR), sexual dimorphism in stature (SDS), and leg-to-body ratio (LBR) have been investigated predominantly in Western cultures. The aim of the present study was to examine the preferences of a relatively isolated, indigenous ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[Deleted member 9488]

fuck nice sig,never heard that song before, i like that dreamy sound and aesthetic. Lana Del Rey had quite a plastic surgery ascension from plain jane to bombshell

thanks jfl, lana is the best female singer of this generation imo. west coast is fire, so fucking good

 

[Deleted member 6273]

How normies can manage to still believe in this "beauty standards propagated by the media" meme... is beyond me. It's 2020

This though is contentious:

"than in Western cultures. Additionally, the observed preferences were modified by contact with different cultures, age, and accessibility of food resources (pig possession). Our results suggest that human norms of attractiveness are malleable and can change with exposure to different environments and conditions."

 

[Uglybrazilian]

There is not "its all about x" imo, everything has multiple causes, there's reasons to believe that the media does have a role in what is perceived as attractive, for example, the SMV of black men have been skyrocketing in the last decades, and nowadays there's many black men who are seem as sex symbols, something that would be 100% impossible 80 years ago

the same way asians are seem as repulsive, but the first hollywood sex symbol was an asian men etc of course biology also plays a big role, but there's indeed other causes