Eugenics is bad, prove me wrong for Lifetime VIP.

[2itrotype]

To enter this contest you must rep this post then provide a detailed argument for eugenics. I am open to all sides of this and will give the best response Lifetime VIP.

 

[overthefalls]

Not a rep farm

 

[fraudster#1]

 

[2itrotype]

Not a rep farm

who said it was, im genuinely curious lmfao

 

[Prøphet]

Can you present your argument for why it’s bad first?

 

[overthefalls]

who said it was, im genuinely curious lmfao

go back to the salmon

 

[Aox Ofwar]

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[2itrotype]

Can you present your argument for why it’s bad first?

I will provide to you the widely accepted PubMed arguement.

It is a “given” in discussions of genetic engineering that no sensible person can be in favour of eugenics. The main reason for this presumption is that so much horror, misery, and mayhem have been carried out in the name of eugenics in the 20th century that no person with any moral sense could think otherwise.1–3 In fact, the abysmal history of murder and sterilisation undertaken in the name of race hygiene and the “improvement” of the human species again and again in this century is so overpowering that the risk of reoccurrence, sliding down what has proved time and time again to be an extremely slick, slippery slope, does seem enough to bring all ethical argument in favour of eugenics to an end.

However, before dismissing any favourable stance towards eugenics it is important to distinguish what has happened in the past under the banner of eugenics and what might happen in the future. It is important to distinguish between genetic changes undertaken with respect to improving a group or population and genetic change that takes a single individual as its focus.

 

[overthefalls]

The most moral way eugenics could be implemented is bribing people with optimal genetics to reproduce with eachother, eventually the people with shitty genetics and recessive traits will go extinct. It'd be insanely slow but it dodges all of the moral issues

 

[2itrotype]

The most moral way eugenics could be implemented is bribing people with optimal genetics to reproduce with eachother, eventually the people with shitty genetics and recessive traits will go extinct. It'd be insanely slow but it dodges all of the moral issues

why is thi serious i wanted rep

 

[Prøphet]

I will provide to you the widely accepted PubMed arguement.

It is a “given” in discussions of genetic engineering that no sensible person can be in favour of eugenics. The main reason for this presumption is that so much horror, misery, and mayhem have been carried out in the name of eugenics in the 20th century that no person with any moral sense could think otherwise.1–3 In fact, the abysmal history of murder and sterilisation undertaken in the name of race hygiene and the “improvement” of the human species again and again in this century is so overpowering that the risk of reoccurrence, sliding down what has proved time and time again to be an extremely slick, slippery slope, does seem enough to bring all ethical argument in favour of eugenics to an end.

However, before dismissing any favourable stance towards eugenics it is important to distinguish what has happened in the past under the banner of eugenics and what might happen in the future. It is important to distinguish between genetic changes undertaken with respect to improving a group or population and genetic change that takes a single individual as its focus.

“In the name of eugenics”, “under the banner of eugenics”

This is just associating eugenics, the selection of favorable genes, with a poor and immoral example of it. Eugenics can absolutely be done in a morally sound way that isn’t related to the historical use of it by Germany. Eugenics don’t necessitate murder, mayhem, and chaos at all.

 

[InanimatePragmatist]

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Eugenics is life. It is nature, it is the way we are. We will always cull the weak, the stupid and the pathetic. Either death or enslavement.

 

[InanimatePragmatist]

“In the name of eugenics”, “under the banner of eugenics”

This is just associating eugenics, the selection of favorable genes, with a poor and immoral example of it. Eugenics can absolutely be done in a morally sound way that isn’t related to the historical use of it by Germany. Eugenics doesnt necessitate murder, mayhem, and chaos at all.

We must do it the Israeli way. They mastered it whilst the Germans only made it popular publically.

 

[fraudster#1]

We must do it the Israeli way. They mastered it whilst the Germans only made it popular publically.

womens be doing eugenics for a while

 

[Prøphet]

We must do it the Israeli way. They mastered it whilst the Germans only made it popular publically.

I’m not familiar with that, but I think the ideal system would be financial and societal incentives for propagation of superior genes and restriction of birthing licenses for poor genes.

 

[InanimatePragmatist]

womens be doing eugenics for a while

Indeed. Survival is just that.

 

[InanimatePragmatist]

I’m not familiar with that, but I think the ideal system would be financial and societal incentives for propagation of superior genes and restriction of birthing licenses for poor genes.

Not enough. For every being of the enemy of our race should suffer for their sins against us. A sane man would remove the global population of the africans, south asians, arabs and hispanics to a few percentages. They will not be exterminated but they will become archived in controlled populations where they have no awareness, no choice and no freedom. Yet that, they will live peaceful lives, simple ones where they can never known what happened, why and for what. A fair mercy towards the race that wanted mine dead.

 

[Aox Ofwar]

Huh why did this guy get fucking banned

 

[Prøphet]

Not enough. For every being of the enemy of our race should suffer for their sins against us. A sane man would remove the global population of the africans, south asians, arabs and hispanics to a few percentages. They will not be exterminated but they will become archived in controlled populations where they have no awareness, no choice and no freedom. Yet that, they will live peaceful lives, simple ones where they can never known what happened, why and for what. A fair mercy towards the race that wanted mine dead.

This might sound kind of soy but race would become an outdated classification if we dedicated more scientific research toward genetics. We could separate the positive genes of certain races, like certain heights and skeletal features, from the negative, like low iq. There would simply be the superior and the inferior.

 

[pleasevanity]

Huh why did this guy get fucking banned

shame i was interested in the conversation aswell

 

[InanimatePragmatist]

This might sound kind of soy but race would become an outdated classification if we dedicated more scientific research toward genetics. We could separate the positive genes of certain races, like certain heights and skeletal features, from the negative, like low iq. There would simply be the superior and the inferior.

Could you genetically make a lion and a tiger the same creature?

 

[Prøphet]

Could you genetically make a lion and a tiger the same creature?

Not yet, the science isn’t there yet

 

[InanimatePragmatist]

Not yet, the science isn’t there yet

Never will be either. By then only one kind will remain.

 

[Prøphet]

Never will be either. By then only one kind will remain.

If we could isolate more variables of their biology we could

 

[Aox Ofwar]

shame i was interested in the conversation aswell

Wish I could engage in the convo but it's fucking 4am so I'm just gonna go watch YouTube shorts and fall asleep