Eye area hardmaxx myths DEBUNKED

[zygosmasher12]

Spoiler: Thread song

I’ve gone to a consultation with a top top clinic and consulted about getting fat grafts in the medial canthus region and canthoplasty. Here’s what I was told


- fat grafts will NOT save your undereye fat loss. If you go to an actual top established clinic, they will not do it for you. The problem outlined was that they won’t do it there as the area is too sensitive and comes with insanely high risk factors, and that when done it looks unnatural from certain angles and is certainly not a valid procedure to be done unless you look like this nigga

They told me that fat grafts are mostly done on the area under the undereye closer to your zygo (you can see the pajeet has major fat loss in that area, that’s where they would inject)

What they recommend instead for slight infraorbital recession (any minor dark spots under eyes) is implants, and tbh we all know that a lot of the times they can look uncanny and you need a perfect mould for it to do anything. For shit like this it’s better to follow a undereye fat maintenance protocol (which I can make a thread about) and try to maintain what you already have, because realistically if you are past the age of 20 and don’t have eyebags and maybe just a bit of dark undereyes, literally 99.99% of people including the models you glaze have it (they use concealer to hide it)

- what was deduced is that canthoplasty is the saving grace. CANTHOPEXY IS THE BIGGEST COPE, THE RESULTS WILL FADE IN 6 MONTHS AND YOU PAY BARELY LESS THAN CANTHOPLASTY. Canthoplasty has a myth surrounded to it that they will touch your lateral canthus and move it to give you “positive canthal tilt” this is not true. They can but that is fox eye surgery, which the surgeon said is one of the worst surgeries you can get and they never do it, we don’t see the reality behind these surgeries, just good quality photos of the celebrities that got it which are frauded. They will cut your undereye and stretch it which will give it a lifted look (same effect as fat grafts would essentially give, and remove any scleral show and undereye droop you have.

TLDR: fat grafts only work if you sit in front of a screen 12 hours a day for 20 years and look like the pajeet shown in the photo. Canthoplasty might be the most goated procedure for eye area, it has a lot of potential and freedom for the surgeon to give you optimal results

 

[zygosmasher12]

@valentine @signatureharry @surgerymaxxingsoon @xzylecrey @TechnoBoss

 

[Fridx]

Dnr

 

[diditeverbegin]

Damn is this why faceiq hasn’t done it yet

 

[TechnoBoss]

Do you want this moved to the looksmaxing section?

 

[zygosmasher12]

Dnr

Wow bro I see how it is

 

[Fridx]

Wow bro I see how it is
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I dont need it
Thats why dnr

 

[zygosmasher12]

Do you want this moved to the looksmaxing section?

If you want but it’s gonna get no views

 

[zygosmasher12]

I dont need it
Thats why dnr

 

[xzylecrey]

I was actuslly wondering about this a couple minutes ago lol what a coincidence. I plan to get lateral cantho and under eye fat graft. So fat grafting doesnt work near the part youd have aegyosal? We would be getting it around the area the guy has it sunken anyway wouldnt we?

Also i couldnt listen to the song while reading it doesnt even match the vibe

 

[zygosmasher12]

Damn is this why faceiq hasn’t done it yet

He’s definitely not gonna get fat grafts at most canthoplasty but nothings gonna change for him his eye area staying the same don’t believe a word that comes out of his mouth

 

[Fridx]

Damn is this why faceiq hasn’t done it yet

None of these tiktokkers getting any surgery done
Including @Clavicular

 

[zygosmasher12]

I was actuslly wondering about this a couple minutes ago lol what a coincidence. I plan to get lateral cantho and under eye fat graft. So fat grafting doesnt work near the part youd have aegyosal? We would be getting it around the area the guy has it sunken anyway wouldnt we?

Also i couldnt listen to the song while reading it doesnt even match the vibe

MB gang well yeah as you see his fat pads under the eyes are cooked and basically for the part of your actual undereye it’s super risky for them and the results are not looking as good as we think, and actually she said that part of the reason why you can have that undereye protrusion is because you have a slightly protruding eye socket so it’s something that you shouldn’t worry about and if anything would save it then it would be orbital decompression (definitely do not recommend that)

 

[zygosmasher12]

None of these tiktokkers getting any surgery done
Including @Clavicular

No shit they’re just retards that are trying to be edgy/say wild shit for attention

 

[xzylecrey]

MB gang well yeah as you see his fat pads under the eyes are cooked and basically for the part of your actual undereye it’s super risky for them and the results are not looking as good as we think, and actually she said that part of the reason why you can have that undereye protrusion is because you have a slightly protruding eye socket so it’s something that you shouldn’t worry about and if anything would save it then it would be orbital decompression (definitely do not recommend that)

Ik but im saying we dont want the fat on your actual undereyes, we want it under that no?

 

[valentine]

ok so theres a lot to unpack here
im honestry lazy to write a proper reply maybe later

 

[xzylecrey]

Do u have nct?

 

[zygosmasher12]

Ik but im saying we dont want the fat on your actual undereyes, we want it under that no?

Yes, but if you have high fat perfect on your actual undereyes which is pretty rare it’s “ideal”

 

[xzylecrey]

ok so theres a lot to unpack here
im honestry lazy to write a proper reply maybe later

Man thst response was tuff they need to nerf us

 

[zygosmasher12]

Do u have nct?

Neutral due to undereyedroop but will become slightly positive after the surgery (no lateral canthus movement)

 

[zygosmasher12]

ok so theres a lot to unpack here
im honestry lazy to write a proper reply maybe later

 

[valentine]

most clinics will not do implants, like only taban does them. theres some problems with implants that are already well known like that they dont age well and can look uncanny. cantho doesnt really fix the lack of fat and im ngl, a lot of the results look really bad, i dont know how people dont see it but it looks obviously operated on and creates strabismus in a lot of patients

 

[Coping Truecel]

Spoiler: Thread song

I’ve gone to a consultation with a top top clinic and consulted about getting fat grafts in the medial canthus region and canthoplasty. Here’s what I was told


- fat grafts will NOT save your undereye fat loss. If you go to an actual top established clinic, they will not do it for you. The problem outlined was that they won’t do it there as the area is too sensitive and comes with insanely high risk factors, and that when done it looks unnatural from certain angles and is certainly not a valid procedure to be done unless you look like this nigga

View attachment 4543530

They told me that fat grafts are mostly done on the area under the undereye closer to your zygo (you can see the pajeet has major fat loss in that area, that’s where they would inject)

What they recommend instead for slight infraorbital recession (any minor dark spots under eyes) is implants, and tbh we all know that a lot of the times they can look uncanny and you need a perfect mould for it to do anything. For shit like this it’s better to follow a undereye fat maintenance protocol (which I can make a thread about) and try to maintain what you already have, because realistically if you are past the age of 20 and don’t have eyebags and maybe just a bit of dark undereyes, literally 99.99% of people including the models you glaze have it (they use concealer to hide it)

- what was deduced is that canthoplasty is the saving grace. CANTHOPEXY IS THE BIGGEST COPE, THE RESULTS WILL FADE IN 6 MONTHS AND YOU PAY BARELY LESS THAN CANTHOPLASTY. Canthoplasty has a myth surrounded to it that they will touch your lateral canthus and move it to give you “positive canthal tilt” this is not true. They can but that is fox eye surgery, which the surgeon said is one of the worst surgeries you can get and they never do it, we don’t see the reality behind these surgeries, just good quality photos of the celebrities that got it which are frauded. They will cut your undereye and stretch it which will give it a lifted look (same effect as fat grafts would essentially give, and remove any scleral show and undereye droop you have.

TLDR: fat grafts only work if you sit in front of a screen 12 hours a day for 20 years and look like the pajeet shown in the photo. Canthoplasty might be the most goated procedure for eye area, it has a lot of potential and freedom for the surgeon to give you optimal results

Good post, did read

 

[aztecas]

how about fat grafting to reduce UEE?

 

[zygosmasher12]

most clinics will not do implants, like only taban does them. theres some problems with implants that are already well known like that they dont age well and can look uncanny. cantho doesnt really fix the lack of fat and im ngl, a lot of the results look really bad, i dont know how people dont see it but it looks obviously operated on and creates strabismus in a lot of patients

She said implants are also not a good idea but it would work better than fat grafts. I said it doesn’t fix the lack of fat but it will give you the undereye lift that fat grafting would in theory give you. I think by the trash results you mean fox eye surgery, which is not the same, and actually it’s really hard to botch a canthoplasty that doesn’t alter the lateral canthus. Strabismus is a risk when you try to do major movement/change that needs more flesh taken out than ideal, and the whole point in my eyes and what the surgeon said aswell is that doing any sort of procedures, less is more, if you have minimal cutting of the undereye just to give it that slight lift, you should be very well off, and she said the only complication possible would be just a tiny scar, which will only be visible if you scar really trash and that’s just trash genetics

Example (even this is over the top movement)

 

[zygosmasher12]

how about fat grafting to reduce UEE?

That’s not for undereyes and yes fat grafting is good for that

 

[zygosmasher12]

Good post, did read

mirin the attention span

 

[valentine]

She said implants are also not a good idea but it would work better than fat grafts. I said it doesn’t fix the lack of fat but it will give you the undereye lift that fat grafting would in theory give you. I think by the trash results you mean fox eye surgery, which is not the same, and actually it’s really hard to botch a canthoplasty that doesn’t alter the lateral canthus. Strabismus is a risk when you try to do major movement/change that needs more flesh taken out than ideal, and the whole point in my eyes and what the surgeon said aswell is that doing any sort of procedures, less is more, if you have minimal cutting of the undereye just to give it that slight lift, you should be very well off, and she said the only complication possible would be just a tiny scar, which will only be visible if you scar really trash and that’s just trash genetics

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Example (even this is over the top movement)

lol at anyone who thinks implants OR fat transfer would give them lower eyelid lift, only pexy and plasty do that. doing proper recearch on these procedures is difficult in general, you will see clinics use terms interchangeably like they themselves dont know what theyre doing. most advise against implants, ive contacted many clinics. of course some cantho results look good i just wouldnt do it based on what ive seen, im still getting fat transfer to undereyes because my hollowing is pretty extreme so i would take anything at this point

 

[zygosmasher12]

lol at anyone who thinks implants OR fat transfer would give them lower eyelid lift, only pexy and plasty do that. doing proper recearch on these procedures is difficult in general, you will see clinics use terms interchangeably like they themselves dont know what theyre doing. most advise against implants, ive contacted many clinics. of course some cantho results look good i just wouldnt do it based on what ive seen, im still getting fat transfer to undereyes because my hollowing is pretty extreme so i would take anything at this point

Understandable. Depending on how brutal your bags are fat transfer will give you some sort of lift. Implants will give your undereyes slight lift as it gives your lower eyelid more support so it’s obviously gonna push it up slightly, although yes cathoplasty is the best and most effective. Dude, you don’t need and never will need canthoplasty, your lower eyelid is insane already so ofcourse you don’t need it

 

[valentine]

Dude, you don’t need and never will need canthoplasty, your lower eyelid is insane already so ofcourse you don’t need it

i just squint i have pretty bad lower lid retraction at rest

 

[zygosmasher12]

i just squint i have pretty bad lower lid retraction at rest
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Idk to me it looked good you have a similar eye area to ian just more pct

 

[valentine]

Idk to me it looked good you have a similar eye area to ian just more pct

its angles and lash curling, i have nct really

 

[zygosmasher12]

its angles and lash curling, i have nct really

Your eye area mogs man idk maybe you just have body dysmorphia or something, I don’t get why you keep talking trash on it, the literal only flaw is ipd

 

[valentine]

Your eye area mogs man idk maybe you just have body dysmorphia or something, I don’t get why you keep talking trash on it, the literal only flaw is ipd

we are all mentally ill

 

[Foreverbrad]

But @SteveRogers and @WrathOfOlives had excellent ascensions from under eye grafting to name just a couple, there are others who have ascended from this as well.

If implants are a bad option and fat grafts are a bad option and fillers are obviously a bad option too then what are you even meant to do, just rope?

 

[zygosmasher12]

But @SteveRogers and @WrathOfOlives had excellent ascensions from under eye grafting to name just a couple, there are others who have ascended from this as well.

If implants are a bad option and fat grafts are a bad option and fillers are obviously a bad option too then what are you even meant to do, just rope?

Im not denying they did. What im trying to convey through this post, is that a lot of people think that fat grafting is a saving grace and one of the best surgeries, whilst it’s a great surgery if you need it, you most likely don’t and if you do then you looked like the nigga on the pic I attached. If you have any small grey area on your undereyes fat grafting will not save it, and you’re better off doing something else. I wanna re-iterate that I went to one of the worlds best ocuplastic clinics in the world so I would like to take their judgement into consideration. I have slight greying in my undereyes which they said is unfixable as they won’t inject fat into those areas as it’s not a good idea

 

[signatureharry]

@valentine @signatureharry @surgerymaxxingsoon @xzylecrey @TechnoBoss

I ain’t reading all that summarise pls

 

[zygosmasher12]

I ain’t reading all that summarise pls

I TLDR’d it nigga look at the bottom

 

[Wexilarious]

Undereye fatloss is actually maxilla being dropped down because of removed wisdom teeth

 

[zygosmasher12]

Undereye fatloss is actually maxilla being dropped down because of removed wisdom teeth

High iq observations

 

[xzylecrey]

most clinics will not do implants, like only taban does them. theres some problems with implants that are already well known like that they dont age well and can look uncanny. cantho doesnt really fix the lack of fat and im ngl, a lot of the results look really bad, i dont know how people dont see it but it looks obviously operated on and creates strabismus in a lot of patients

EVerything he said i said in my head we have a lot in common

 

[Tensor]

most clinics will not do implants, like only taban does them. theres some problems with implants that are already well known like that they dont age well and can look uncanny. cantho doesnt really fix the lack of fat and im ngl, a lot of the results look really bad, i dont know how people dont see it but it looks obviously operated on and creates strabismus in a lot of patients

Taban mentioned

 

[xzylecrey]

Understandable. Depending on how brutal your bags are fat transfer will give you some sort of lift. Implants will give your undereyes slight lift as it gives your lower eyelid more support so it’s obviously gonna push it up slightly, although yes cathoplasty is the best and most effective. Dude, you don’t need and never will need canthoplasty, your lower eyelid is insane already so ofcourse you don’t need it

I want lateral cantho for few mm pfl incr

 

[imabadman02]

Nigga look like SomeOrdinaryGamers

 

[diditeverbegin]

He’s definitely not gonna get fat grafts at most canthoplasty but nothings gonna change for him his eye area staying the same don’t believe a word that comes out of his mouth

 

[zygosmasher12]

I want lateral cantho for few mm pfl incr

canthoplasty will make it smaller if anything if you try and widen it your pfl by incision you will have an obvious scar and it will look like trash you will just have exposed flesh instead of eyeball

 

[zygosmasher12]

Nigga look like SomeOrdinaryGamers

7.5psl 8psl with fat grafts

 

[xzylecrey]

canthoplasty will make it smaller if anything if you try and widen it your pfl by incision you will have an obvious scar and it will look like trash you will just have exposed flesh instead of eyeball

WHat can i do then bhai pls help me

 

[zygosmasher12]

WHat can i do then bhai pls help me

cope i guess

 

[surgerymaxxingsoon]

Spoiler: Thread song

I’ve gone to a consultation with a top top clinic and consulted about getting fat grafts in the medial canthus region and canthoplasty. Here’s what I was told


- fat grafts will NOT save your undereye fat loss. If you go to an actual top established clinic, they will not do it for you. The problem outlined was that they won’t do it there as the area is too sensitive and comes with insanely high risk factors, and that when done it looks unnatural from certain angles and is certainly not a valid procedure to be done unless you look like this nigga

View attachment 4543530

They told me that fat grafts are mostly done on the area under the undereye closer to your zygo (you can see the pajeet has major fat loss in that area, that’s where they would inject)

What they recommend instead for slight infraorbital recession (any minor dark spots under eyes) is implants, and tbh we all know that a lot of the times they can look uncanny and you need a perfect mould for it to do anything. For shit like this it’s better to follow a undereye fat maintenance protocol (which I can make a thread about) and try to maintain what you already have, because realistically if you are past the age of 20 and don’t have eyebags and maybe just a bit of dark undereyes, literally 99.99% of people including the models you glaze have it (they use concealer to hide it)

- what was deduced is that canthoplasty is the saving grace. CANTHOPEXY IS THE BIGGEST COPE, THE RESULTS WILL FADE IN 6 MONTHS AND YOU PAY BARELY LESS THAN CANTHOPLASTY. Canthoplasty has a myth surrounded to it that they will touch your lateral canthus and move it to give you “positive canthal tilt” this is not true. They can but that is fox eye surgery, which the surgeon said is one of the worst surgeries you can get and they never do it, we don’t see the reality behind these surgeries, just good quality photos of the celebrities that got it which are frauded. They will cut your undereye and stretch it which will give it a lifted look (same effect as fat grafts would essentially give, and remove any scleral show and undereye droop you have.

TLDR: fat grafts only work if you sit in front of a screen 12 hours a day for 20 years and look like the pajeet shown in the photo. Canthoplasty might be the most goated procedure for eye area, it has a lot of potential and freedom for the surgeon to give you optimal results

Thoughts on cantho then fat grafting for upper eyelids

Besides that in my case I think cantho would def benefit me make my eye area look more striking but my infras are fucked so it’s over