Facial Harmony Ratio

[Shodredux]

Today I want to share the most important, and the least talked about ratio for facial harmony. I call it the ...

Nose to Philtrum ratio :
It is measured by dividing the height of the nose (measured from medial canthus to bottom of the nose) by height of the philtrum(from bottom of the nose to middle of the lips)

Like so...

The ideal ratio is 2.00

If the ratio is less than 2 , then your philtrum will look long and if you also have a low fwhr , your face will look elongated.

If the ratio is greater than 2, then your philtrum will look too short and you will look weak and odd.

Sometimes, a large philtrum can be combined with a wide fwhr and a huge chin to give a dominanting look.

A great example of this is Thanos

 

[HighIQcel]

2.04

 

[Deleted member 2661]

Why do niggas just randomly switch to black text, nobody's reading that.

 

[Shodredux]

Why do niggas just randomly switch to black text, nobody's reading that.

It ain't even that long tho

 

[Shodredux]

2.04

That's actually very good ratio damn

 

[thickdickdaddy27]

Didn't read but it's all about the balance between the facial thirds

 

[Deleted member 2933]

No

 

[HighIQcel]

Legit

Didn't read but it's all about the balance between the facial thirds

Elab bud ples

 

[Shodredux]

Didn't read but it's all about the balance between the facial thirds

It is an extension of balanced facial thirds , but this particular ratio is less talked about, but i think this ratio is probably the most important part of the balanced facial thirds

No

Care to elaborate?

 

[Deleted member 3679]

who cares?

 

[Deleted member 685]

Good thread, this is what holds me back. My nose is pretty long whereas my philtrum is quite short

 

[giving120everyday]

Is there any way to make your face more harmonious?

 

[Deleted member 685]

Is there any way to make your face more harmonious?

Of course

 

[Shodredux]

Is there any way to make your face more harmonious?

Aside from genioplasty to fix a weak chin , i can't think of much that you can do to improve facial harmony. Midface is probably the hardest part of the face to alter.

 

[needsolution]

Tall face is good.

 

[Jimsonbobson505]

Today I want to share the most important, and the least talked about ratio for facial harmony. I call it the ...

Nose to Philtrum ratio :
It is measured by dividing the height of the nose (measured from medial canthus to bottom of the nose) by height of the philtrum(from bottom of the nose to middle of the lips)

Like so...
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The ideal ratio is 2.00

If the ratio is less than 2 , then your philtrum will look long and if you also have a low fwhr , your face will look elongated.

If the ratio is greater than 2, then your philtrum will look too short and you will look weak and odd.

Sometimes, a large philtrum can be combined with a wide fwhr and a huge chin to give a dominanting look.

A great example of this is Thanos

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Shouldve put Stan Smith

 

[Deleted member 685]

Tall face is good.

Yes but not due to long midface, rather an angular upper third and broad robust lower third

 

[Shodredux]

Tall face is good.

Yes , but it depends on how tall it is. As long as it doesn't look narrow , it's fine.

Yes but not due to long midface, rather an angular upper third and broad robust lower third

This ^^

 

[needsolution]

Yes but not due to long midface, rather an angular upper third and broad robust lower third

Longer midface is fine as long as you have good features and harmony. Ballou, Gandy, even Chico who despite having good ratio has this longish face touch are proofs.

Yes , but it depends on how tall it is. As long as it doesn't look narrow , it's fine.

This ^^

Yeah, this is what i mean. Just look at Brad Pitt, his skull is small, fwhr is fine but somewhat his face manages to look tall due to his angular jaw mostly and he looks godly and high class.
Tall looking face is needed in modeling imo (with small exceptions), just look at models, almost all of them have tall looking faces.

Also this 2.0 theory then its not 100% true. There will be very very good looking chads with lower ratio and higher. All about harmony, or you look good or dont.

 

[Shodredux]

Longer midface is fine as long as you have good features and harmony. Ballou, Gandy, even Chico who despite having good ratio has this longish face touch are proofs.

Yeah, this is what i mean. Just look at Brad Pitt, his skull is small, fwhr is fine but somewhat his face manages to look tall due to his angular jaw mostly and he looks godly and high class.
Tall looking face is needed in modeling imo (with small exceptions), just look at models, almost all of them have tall looking faces.

Also this 2.0 theory then its not 100% true. There will be very very good looking chads with lower ratio and higher. All about harmony, or you look good or dont.

Yes , there are plentiful of good looking people who don't necessarily have a 2.0 ratio , but most of the male models seems to have near perfect nose to philtrum ratio. I just found it interesting and wanted to share.

 

[Pietrosiek]

2.8

 

[Shodredux]

2.8

Did you measure it right?

 

[Deleted member 685]

Longer midface is fine as long as you have good features and harmony. Ballou, Gandy, even Chico who despite having good ratio has this longish face touch are proofs.

Yeah, this is what i mean. Just look at Brad Pitt, his skull is small, fwhr is fine but somewhat his face manages to look tall due to his angular jaw mostly and he looks godly and high class.
Tall looking face is needed in modeling imo (with small exceptions), just look at models, almost all of them have tall looking faces.

Also this 2.0 theory then its not 100% true. There will be very very good looking chads with lower ratio and higher. All about harmony, or you look good or dont.

Gandy and chico literally have midfaces nowhere near long and Tyson ballou imo actually looks a bit off thanks to his long midface/nose.

 

[Pietrosiek]

Did you measure it right?

Yeah

 

[Shodredux]

Yeah

Damn , i feel bad for you

 

[Pietrosiek]

Damn , i feel bad for you

2.36 is other pic. Idk man

 

[needsolution]

Gandy and chico literally have midfaces nowhere near long and Tyson ballou imo actually looks a bit off thanks to his long midface/nose.

Forget about ratios. They crossed 65mm pupil-lip lenght, they have longer face.

 

[Shodredux]

2.36 is other pic. Idk man

Do you have a long or short midface???

 

[Pietrosiek]

Do you have a long or short midface???

Long af you didnt saw my face?

 

[Shodredux]

Long af you didnt saw my face?

Feels bad man

 

[Shodredux]

who cares?

You should care tho

 

[Deleted member 3962]

1.9

my fwhr is 2.07 tho

 

[PenileFacialSurgery]

Dumb ass nigga

If the ratio is less than 2 , then your philtrum will look long and if you also have a low fwhr , your face will look elongated.

If the ratio is greater than 2, then your philtrum will look too short and you will look weak and odd.

Sometimes, a large philtrum can be combined with a wide fwhr and a huge chin to give a dominanting look.

A great example of this is Thanos

 

[Shodredux]

Dumb ass nigga

If the ratio is less than 2 , then your philtrum will look long and if you also have a low fwhr , your face will look elongated.

If the ratio is greater than 2, then your philtrum will look too short and you will look weak and odd.

Sometimes, a large philtrum can be combined with a wide fwhr and a huge chin to give a dominanting look.

A great example of this is Thanos

Tnx

 

[Shodredux]

1.9

my fwhr is 2.07 tho

1.9 is rly good .ideal range is from 1.8 to 2.0

 

[Averagecel]

Tall face is good.

 

[Vermilioncore]

Didn't read

 

[alligatordude]

i have such good ratios now that i have calculated everything

midface ratio = 1 bang on
fwhr = 2.01
nose/philtrum= 2
chin/philtrum= 2

My ES ratio is like 0.435, but i have really good long eyebrows like zac efron so it still looks good

nose is slightly slightly wider than intercanthal distance
lips go to interior of eyes

 

[Zoneator]

1.7. I guess its kinda good as I have a high mfr.

 

[weallburninhell]

How I supposed to measure, my lower lips lenght surpass my middle lips line

 

[Deleted member 3202]

Nose to philtrum ratio: 1.74
FWHR: 1.81
Midface ratio: 1.4
IPD: 6.1cms
ESR: 0.435
Chin to philtrum ratio: 2.3-2.38

 

[Deleted member 3202]

Nose to philtrum ratio: 1.74
FWHR: 1.81
Midface ratio: 1.4
IPD: 6.1cms
ESR: 0.435
Chin to philtrum ratio: 2.3-2.38

I am a philtrumcel and a glabellacel.

 

[Shodredux]

I am a philtrumcel and a glabellacel.

I am a chincel tbh

 

[DianabolDownie]

1.8 but my philtrum looks pretty short... but yea i have a fairly low FWHR
was hoping to get a removable expander but turns out that wont work for facial width

 

[Deleted member 3202]

1.8 but my philtrum looks pretty short... but yea i have a fairly low FWHR
was hoping to get a removable expander but turns out that wont work for facial width

Didn't I rate you? I keep forgetting who I've rated.

 

[DianabolDownie]

Didn't I rate you? I keep forgetting who I've rated.

yea we pm'ed a few times, most generous feedback ive ever had lmao instead of just "its over"

 

[Deleted member 3202]

yea we pm'ed a few times, most generous feedback ive ever had lmao instead of just "its over"

Yeah, I just checked my past DMs and you look just fine in regards to chin and philtrum area, Imo.

 

[Deleted member 3593]

Isn’t facial harmony just another cope for someone that isn’t GL ?

“Hmm, no major flaws , average eye area + lower third but hamony makes u above average. 5psl mirin.”

translation : “you’re very fucking ugly but don’t wanna explicitly say it. Subhuman jaw and eye area.”

 

[Pietrosiek]

chads everywhere