Facial Recession/Drooping/Asymmetry (causes and methods for solutions)

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TLDR: this CAN happen from:
  1. Scoliosis (twisting and curving of the spine)
  2. Neural Preference (body compensates for neurological preference by shifting shape of skull)
  3. Torticollis (a side of the neck pulls/strains, while the other is often loose, causing the spine/neck bones to shift)
  4. Orthodontic Issues (maybe braces gave you bone asymmetry or you haven't had orthodontic care when you need it)
  5. Different Sized Master Muscles (jaw muscles, used for chewing)
  6. Uneven fat pad distribution
  7. Bell's Palsy (nerve paralysis in the face)
  8. Being Human
Solutions for this depend on why it is happening, and can be nearly impossible to solve especially if past puberty.
(idk all the reasons why it can happen but this is what I got)

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facial asymmetry is pretty brutal but in a lot of cases its not that big of a deal. what matters more is that the areas themselves are looking good (good eye area, jaw etc.)
when asymmetry is taking place where you can see regression or deformation where you just look worse, that is a problem.
I noticed i looked very different at different angles and posted on here awhile ago about this. my left side of my face looks way better than my right. @Dastan was very helpful talking with me about this issue.
he referred me to the fact that I might scoliosis, which upon looking in the mirror and going to the doctor for x-rays was the case
my scoliosis was labeled as idiopathic (basically my scoliosis is just there, no cause for it to start) but me and Dastan where trying to find a reason behind it so I could possibly solve it/understand it

ill go through the things I've found can cause a situation of facial asymmetry/deformation, and possible solutions:
I will talk about this as it has affected me and my knowledge of it. I am FULLY AWARE I might not know something correctly or what i claim as fact may just be a theory/wrong so Im very open to hear your thoughts on this if you know something I don't.

1. SCOLIOSIS
in my situation my lower jaw as I aged lined up with my neck with my neck being tilted. this caused a side of my face to fall down as my right is drooping and my left is raised up/compressed. this causes a my right side of my face to sag.
scoliosis can also affect the entire shape and position of the skull and every other bone in the body. And can have from what I've seen 2 reasons why its happening (excluding just no reason) those reasons being muscle issues and neurological issues. which I will get into next.

solution: fixing cause of scoliosis or doing exercises and treatments to maintain alignment of the bones (could even go so far as bracing the spine) best to talk to a doctor about this. SCHROTH method is a well liked and used methodology for treating scoliosis.

method: really depends on your situation and theres a lot out there, schroth promotes putting pressure (beanbags) into areas of the body where the the ribs have issues usually the areas where the curve is going into and then using mind muscle connection breathing into the areas that are not usually used.
if you find the root cause and fix the cause of the scoliosis that can help probably the most.


2. NEURAL PREFRENCE
as the body may have a neurological preference, the skull and rest of the body will compensate and move for those preferences. For example if you have eye dominance in your right eye, your skull may shift to allow your right eye to be used more. it is also important to understand that:


a. just because you have great vision that doesn't mean you don't have neural preference
b. you can have neural preference that can occur in different capacities (close range, far range. eyes for example; you can have a close range preference in one eye and a far range preference for another eye)

"so how do I know if I have this?": tests you can do, im not totally sure its not very simple. a neurologist would know more

this may seem a little far fetched but there are studies on this and the doctors I've talked to confirmed this is an actual thing. it can cause scoliosis which can cause facial asymmetry as well.

possible solution: forcing the non-dominant side to be used and equaling out the sides.

methods: earplug or eyepatch (metal gear solid reference?) on the dominant side or contact lens('es)/glasses to force non dominant side to be used


3. TORTICOLLIS
im pretty sure this is the reason behind my scoliosis and neck tilt. my right neck muscles (where my neck is being moved to) are very tight and shortened. my left neck muscles are being stretched across and very loose. this could be happening from the fact that my neck bones are just like this but i doubt it.
this is common in infants but still possible for adults. I noticed i had this even at a very young age but only once i went through puberty did it start to affect my face.

solution: shortening/strengthening the loose side and stretching the pulling side.

known methods: neck harness, laying down on side that is pulling, then moving head up so side that is weak is pulling and holding. getting a wobble board and trying to straighten neck my pulling up and learning to balance body.


4. ORTHODONIC/TEETH ISSUES
if your teeth are messed up either from not having care or the care you got made it worse, that can cause the whole skull to shift around and be weird. if this is the case surgery or orthodontic care is probably the move, i haven't researched this as much as i dont think this is my problem. my teeth are slanted as my skull is slanted, but my teeth are basically aligned as a singular unit.

solution: orthodontic care

method: Invisalign, braces, invasive surgery


5. MASTER MUSCLE ASYMMETRY
I thought I had master muscle asymmetry which I "do", but that is because one muscle is being stretched out and the other is loose so it can be bigger when I clench. To see if you have asymmetry in your master muscles clench them down (if your teeth are messed up that could be the issue too) and feel for them on the back of your jaw bones on your skin (move your hands around for a better result) and feel if a certain side is larger. BUT LIKE I SAID one side for me is being stretched (right) and the other is loose/compressed (left), so the stretched side seems much smaller. in reality I think both are the same size.
if you have a aligned jaw though and still different sized masters muscles then this may be the issue for asymmetry. cause? maybe chewing on one side or a bite is causing you to use on muscle more, like if your teeth are misaligned.

solution: even out the muscles

methods: orthodontic care if your bite is using one side more than the other, stop clenching, MAYBE chew on other side of mouth not sure about that one


6. UNEVEN FAT IN FACE
I have a little bit more fat on the right side of my face but some people have it pretty severe. why is this happening idk the body being strange ig. some people say sleeping on a side of the face can lead to that side being smushed/puffy but im doubtful about this truly being the case. a leaner face in general looks better so if you can get both sides of the face to be lean that would be the best.

solution: loose the fat and make the fat on each side of face match in size

methods: cardio+working out to BE A MAN and to drop fat overall, MAYBE sleeping on your back, to fix asymmetry in the fat pads you can inject fat burners into the bloated area, fillers, or do buccal fat pad removal. some of these are surgical and some can be done on your own (i heard somebody did a fat pad removal on himself on here hahaha mirin low inhib) but seriously do your research and be super careful if your gonna be sticking needles in your face.


7. BELLS PALSY
I dont know a whole lot about this one to be honest, facial nerve paralysis basically. causes drooping and loss of proper function

solution: bringing back nerve function to area of face

method: massaging and getting physical therapy work done


8. BEING HUMAN
self explanatory. if there is some strange oddball thing going on you can fix with a sugery then thats the solution ig. but otherwise acceptance.

solution: money max maybe for surgery, or accepting thats how it be.

method: get a job
for all the autists that say killing yourself is a solution you need to chill


that's what I got. if any of you have comments on this, especially serious proof/methods for any of these situations especially my own that would be appreciated.

ik its the classic cope saying, but facial asymmetry is a lot more noticeable in pictures and to yourself than others. sometimes I think I look deformed but ive had several occasions where girls walk up to me and ask outright to get my number or try to get my number (im not coping theres been obv situations where this has happened). so something to keep in mind for yourself as you workout and improve your looks where you can.
@Dastan
 

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rj mitte has scoliosis, still chad, genetics
 
dawg just stop coping and get the rhinoplasty already
 
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your main problems is your nose and slight jaw recession not the asymmetry. Your lower Jaw recession isn't brutal but you'd look a lot better if it was brought forward. Its possible you have a overbite and it could be fixed without surgery

Do you have any functional issues due to your canted jaw? If fixing your bite wont help insurance might be able to cover it.
 
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your main problems is your nose and slight jaw recession not the asymmetry. Your lower Jaw recession isn't brutal but you'd look a lot better if it was brought forward. Its possible you have a overbite and it could be fixed without surgery

Do you have any functional issues due to your canted jaw? If fixing your bite wont help insurance might be able to cover it.
I have tmj issues on my right side. I think any bite issue I’m having could he helped the most by fixing my neck as neck is causing my right to be recessed as that side is elongated while my left is compressed.
 
I have tmj issues on my right side. I think any bite issue I’m having could he helped the most by fixing my neck as neck is causing my right to be recessed as that side is elongated while my left is compressed.
Your TMJ issues are what's causing asymmetry, so try and fix your TMJ because apparently it only gets worse I have the same problem to many factors in TMJ you might need physical therapy or surgery

If you have tmj there is a problem with your bones, muscles or joints, your face moves in a way to compensate for it even your shoulders and pelvis can shift.

Some people even say your pelvic tilt can cause tmj
 
___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
TLDR: this CAN happen from:
  1. Scoliosis (twisting and curving of the spine)
  2. Neural Preference (body compensates for neurological preference by shifting shape of skull)
  3. Torticollis (a side of the neck pulls/strains, while the other is often loose, causing the spine/neck bones to shift)
  4. Orthodontic Issues (maybe braces gave you bone asymmetry or you haven't had orthodontic care when you need it)
  5. Different Sized Master Muscles (jaw muscles, used for chewing)
  6. Uneven fat pad distribution
  7. Bell's Palsy (nerve paralysis in the face)
  8. Being Human
Solutions for this depend on why it is happening, and can be nearly impossible to solve especially if past puberty.
(idk all the reasons why it can happen but this is what I got)

___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

facial asymmetry is pretty brutal but in a lot of cases its not that big of a deal. what matters more is that the areas themselves are looking good (good eye area, jaw etc.)
when asymmetry is taking place where you can see regression or deformation where you just look worse, that is a problem.
I noticed i looked very different at different angles and posted on here awhile ago about this. my left side of my face looks way better than my right. @Dastan was very helpful talking with me about this issue.
he referred me to the fact that I might scoliosis, which upon looking in the mirror and going to the doctor for x-rays was the case
my scoliosis was labeled as idiopathic (basically my scoliosis is just there, no cause for it to start) but me and Dastan where trying to find a reason behind it so I could possibly solve it/understand it

ill go through the things I've found can cause a situation of facial asymmetry/deformation, and possible solutions:
I will talk about this as it has affected me and my knowledge of it. I am FULLY AWARE I might not know something correctly or what i claim as fact may just be a theory/wrong so Im very open to hear your thoughts on this if you know something I don't.

1. SCOLIOSIS
in my situation my lower jaw as I aged lined up with my neck with my neck being tilted. this caused a side of my face to fall down as my right is drooping and my left is raised up/compressed. this causes a my right side of my face to sag.
scoliosis can also affect the entire shape and position of the skull and every other bone in the body. And can have from what I've seen 2 reasons why its happening (excluding just no reason) those reasons being muscle issues and neurological issues. which I will get into next.

solution: fixing cause of scoliosis or doing exercises and treatments to maintain alignment of the bones (could even go so far as bracing the spine) best to talk to a doctor about this. SCHROTH method is a well liked and used methodology for treating scoliosis.

method: really depends on your situation and theres a lot out there, schroth promotes putting pressure (beanbags) into areas of the body where the the ribs have issues usually the areas where the curve is going into and then using mind muscle connection breathing into the areas that are not usually used.
if you find the root cause and fix the cause of the scoliosis that can help probably the most.


2. NEURAL PREFRENCE
as the body may have a neurological preference, the skull and rest of the body will compensate and move for those preferences. For example if you have eye dominance in your right eye, your skull may shift to allow your right eye to be used more. it is also important to understand that:


a. just because you have great vision that doesn't mean you don't have neural preference
b. you can have neural preference that can occur in different capacities (close range, far range. eyes for example; you can have a close range preference in one eye and a far range preference for another eye)

"so how do I know if I have this?": tests you can do, im not totally sure its not very simple. a neurologist would know more

this may seem a little far fetched but there are studies on this and the doctors I've talked to confirmed this is an actual thing. it can cause scoliosis which can cause facial asymmetry as well.

possible solution: forcing the non-dominant side to be used and equaling out the sides.

methods: earplug or eyepatch (metal gear solid reference?) on the dominant side or contact lens('es)/glasses to force non dominant side to be used


3. TORTICOLLIS
im pretty sure this is the reason behind my scoliosis and neck tilt. my right neck muscles (where my neck is being moved to) are very tight and shortened. my left neck muscles are being stretched across and very loose. this could be happening from the fact that my neck bones are just like this but i doubt it.
this is common in infants but still possible for adults. I noticed i had this even at a very young age but only once i went through puberty did it start to affect my face.

solution: shortening/strengthening the loose side and stretching the pulling side.

known methods: neck harness, laying down on side that is pulling, then moving head up so side that is weak is pulling and holding. getting a wobble board and trying to straighten neck my pulling up and learning to balance body.


4. ORTHODONIC/TEETH ISSUES
if your teeth are messed up either from not having care or the care you got made it worse, that can cause the whole skull to shift around and be weird. if this is the case surgery or orthodontic care is probably the move, i haven't researched this as much as i dont think this is my problem. my teeth are slanted as my skull is slanted, but my teeth are basically aligned as a singular unit.

solution: orthodontic care

method: Invisalign, braces, invasive surgery


5. MASTER MUSCLE ASYMMETRY
I thought I had master muscle asymmetry which I "do", but that is because one muscle is being stretched out and the other is loose so it can be bigger when I clench. To see if you have asymmetry in your master muscles clench them down (if your teeth are messed up that could be the issue too) and feel for them on the back of your jaw bones on your skin (move your hands around for a better result) and feel if a certain side is larger. BUT LIKE I SAID one side for me is being stretched (right) and the other is loose/compressed (left), so the stretched side seems much smaller. in reality I think both are the same size.
if you have a aligned jaw though and still different sized masters muscles then this may be the issue for asymmetry. cause? maybe chewing on one side or a bite is causing you to use on muscle more, like if your teeth are misaligned.

solution: even out the muscles

methods: orthodontic care if your bite is using one side more than the other, stop clenching, MAYBE chew on other side of mouth not sure about that one


6. UNEVEN FAT IN FACE
I have a little bit more fat on the right side of my face but some people have it pretty severe. why is this happening idk the body being strange ig. some people say sleeping on a side of the face can lead to that side being smushed/puffy but im doubtful about this truly being the case. a leaner face in general looks better so if you can get both sides of the face to be lean that would be the best.

solution: loose the fat and make the fat on each side of face match in size

methods: cardio+working out to BE A MAN and to drop fat overall, MAYBE sleeping on your back, to fix asymmetry in the fat pads you can inject fat burners into the bloated area, fillers, or do buccal fat pad removal. some of these are surgical and some can be done on your own (i heard somebody did a fat pad removal on himself on here hahaha mirin low inhib) but seriously do your research and be super careful if your gonna be sticking needles in your face.


7. BELLS PALSY
I dont know a whole lot about this one to be honest, facial nerve paralysis basically. causes drooping and loss of proper function

solution: bringing back nerve function to area of face

method: massaging and getting physical therapy work done


8. BEING HUMAN
self explanatory. if there is some strange oddball thing going on you can fix with a sugery then thats the solution ig. but otherwise acceptance.

solution: money max maybe for surgery, or accepting thats how it be.

method: get a job
for all the autists that say killing yourself is a solution you need to chill


that's what I got. if any of you have comments on this, especially serious proof/methods for any of these situations especially my own that would be appreciated.

ik its the classic cope saying, but facial asymmetry is a lot more noticeable in pictures and to yourself than others. sometimes I think I look deformed but ive had several occasions where girls walk up to me and ask outright to get my number or try to get my number (im not coping theres been obv situations where this has happened). so something to keep in mind for yourself as you workout and improve your looks where you can.
@Dastan
Right side of my jaw has a shorter ramus, more inward gonion, smaller masseter and less forward growth than the left side. my right side of my face also had a far more recessed cheekbone, more recessed orbital bones, smaller neck muscles.

My right shoulder is also less wide and more forward and lower and drooped than my left

My right leg is shorter than my left and my right foot is turned outward like duck feet and all the muscles are tight on my right leg

My entire right side is far worse than my left
 
Right side of my jaw has a shorter ramus, more inward gonion, smaller masseter and less forward growth than the left side. my right side of my face also had a far more recessed cheekbone, more recessed orbital bones, smaller neck muscles.

My right shoulder is also less wide and more forward and lower and drooped than my left

My right leg is shorter than my left and my right foot is turned outward like duck feet and all the muscles are tight on my right leg

My entire right side is far worse than my left
yeah im not sure, i feel like theres gotta be some reason behind it all yk
 
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___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
TLDR: this CAN happen from:
  1. Scoliosis (twisting and curving of the spine)
  2. Neural Preference (body compensates for neurological preference by shifting shape of skull)
  3. Torticollis (a side of the neck pulls/strains, while the other is often loose, causing the spine/neck bones to shift)
  4. Orthodontic Issues (maybe braces gave you bone asymmetry or you haven't had orthodontic care when you need it)
  5. Different Sized Master Muscles (jaw muscles, used for chewing)
  6. Uneven fat pad distribution
  7. Bell's Palsy (nerve paralysis in the face)
  8. Being Human
Solutions for this depend on why it is happening, and can be nearly impossible to solve especially if past puberty.
(idk all the reasons why it can happen but this is what I got)

___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

facial asymmetry is pretty brutal but in a lot of cases its not that big of a deal. what matters more is that the areas themselves are looking good (good eye area, jaw etc.)
when asymmetry is taking place where you can see regression or deformation where you just look worse, that is a problem.
I noticed i looked very different at different angles and posted on here awhile ago about this. my left side of my face looks way better than my right. @Dastan was very helpful talking with me about this issue.
he referred me to the fact that I might scoliosis, which upon looking in the mirror and going to the doctor for x-rays was the case
my scoliosis was labeled as idiopathic (basically my scoliosis is just there, no cause for it to start) but me and Dastan where trying to find a reason behind it so I could possibly solve it/understand it

ill go through the things I've found can cause a situation of facial asymmetry/deformation, and possible solutions:
I will talk about this as it has affected me and my knowledge of it. I am FULLY AWARE I might not know something correctly or what i claim as fact may just be a theory/wrong so Im very open to hear your thoughts on this if you know something I don't.

1. SCOLIOSIS
in my situation my lower jaw as I aged lined up with my neck with my neck being tilted. this caused a side of my face to fall down as my right is drooping and my left is raised up/compressed. this causes a my right side of my face to sag.
scoliosis can also affect the entire shape and position of the skull and every other bone in the body. And can have from what I've seen 2 reasons why its happening (excluding just no reason) those reasons being muscle issues and neurological issues. which I will get into next.

solution: fixing cause of scoliosis or doing exercises and treatments to maintain alignment of the bones (could even go so far as bracing the spine) best to talk to a doctor about this. SCHROTH method is a well liked and used methodology for treating scoliosis.

method: really depends on your situation and theres a lot out there, schroth promotes putting pressure (beanbags) into areas of the body where the the ribs have issues usually the areas where the curve is going into and then using mind muscle connection breathing into the areas that are not usually used.
if you find the root cause and fix the cause of the scoliosis that can help probably the most.


2. NEURAL PREFRENCE
as the body may have a neurological preference, the skull and rest of the body will compensate and move for those preferences. For example if you have eye dominance in your right eye, your skull may shift to allow your right eye to be used more. it is also important to understand that:


a. just because you have great vision that doesn't mean you don't have neural preference
b. you can have neural preference that can occur in different capacities (close range, far range. eyes for example; you can have a close range preference in one eye and a far range preference for another eye)

"so how do I know if I have this?": tests you can do, im not totally sure its not very simple. a neurologist would know more

this may seem a little far fetched but there are studies on this and the doctors I've talked to confirmed this is an actual thing. it can cause scoliosis which can cause facial asymmetry as well.

possible solution: forcing the non-dominant side to be used and equaling out the sides.

methods: earplug or eyepatch (metal gear solid reference?) on the dominant side or contact lens('es)/glasses to force non dominant side to be used


3. TORTICOLLIS
im pretty sure this is the reason behind my scoliosis and neck tilt. my right neck muscles (where my neck is being moved to) are very tight and shortened. my left neck muscles are being stretched across and very loose. this could be happening from the fact that my neck bones are just like this but i doubt it.
this is common in infants but still possible for adults. I noticed i had this even at a very young age but only once i went through puberty did it start to affect my face.

solution: shortening/strengthening the loose side and stretching the pulling side.

known methods: neck harness, laying down on side that is pulling, then moving head up so side that is weak is pulling and holding. getting a wobble board and trying to straighten neck my pulling up and learning to balance body.


4. ORTHODONIC/TEETH ISSUES
if your teeth are messed up either from not having care or the care you got made it worse, that can cause the whole skull to shift around and be weird. if this is the case surgery or orthodontic care is probably the move, i haven't researched this as much as i dont think this is my problem. my teeth are slanted as my skull is slanted, but my teeth are basically aligned as a singular unit.

solution: orthodontic care

method: Invisalign, braces, invasive surgery


5. MASTER MUSCLE ASYMMETRY
I thought I had master muscle asymmetry which I "do", but that is because one muscle is being stretched out and the other is loose so it can be bigger when I clench. To see if you have asymmetry in your master muscles clench them down (if your teeth are messed up that could be the issue too) and feel for them on the back of your jaw bones on your skin (move your hands around for a better result) and feel if a certain side is larger. BUT LIKE I SAID one side for me is being stretched (right) and the other is loose/compressed (left), so the stretched side seems much smaller. in reality I think both are the same size.
if you have a aligned jaw though and still different sized masters muscles then this may be the issue for asymmetry. cause? maybe chewing on one side or a bite is causing you to use on muscle more, like if your teeth are misaligned.

solution: even out the muscles

methods: orthodontic care if your bite is using one side more than the other, stop clenching, MAYBE chew on other side of mouth not sure about that one


6. UNEVEN FAT IN FACE
I have a little bit more fat on the right side of my face but some people have it pretty severe. why is this happening idk the body being strange ig. some people say sleeping on a side of the face can lead to that side being smushed/puffy but im doubtful about this truly being the case. a leaner face in general looks better so if you can get both sides of the face to be lean that would be the best.

solution: loose the fat and make the fat on each side of face match in size

methods: cardio+working out to BE A MAN and to drop fat overall, MAYBE sleeping on your back, to fix asymmetry in the fat pads you can inject fat burners into the bloated area, fillers, or do buccal fat pad removal. some of these are surgical and some can be done on your own (i heard somebody did a fat pad removal on himself on here hahaha mirin low inhib) but seriously do your research and be super careful if your gonna be sticking needles in your face.


7. BELLS PALSY
I dont know a whole lot about this one to be honest, facial nerve paralysis basically. causes drooping and loss of proper function

solution: bringing back nerve function to area of face

method: massaging and getting physical therapy work done


8. BEING HUMAN
self explanatory. if there is some strange oddball thing going on you can fix with a sugery then thats the solution ig. but otherwise acceptance.

solution: money max maybe for surgery, or accepting thats how it be.

method: get a job
for all the autists that say killing yourself is a solution you need to chill


that's what I got. if any of you have comments on this, especially serious proof/methods for any of these situations especially my own that would be appreciated.

ik its the classic cope saying, but facial asymmetry is a lot more noticeable in pictures and to yourself than others. sometimes I think I look deformed but ive had several occasions where girls walk up to me and ask outright to get my number or try to get my number (im not coping theres been obv situations where this has happened). so something to keep in mind for yourself as you workout and improve your looks where you can.
@Dastan
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this is the areas of facial deformation that ive found, as for how accurate each of the things are ill admit im not sure. but at least i can point people in a generally good direction for their own research.
 
Do you have a picture of your teeth when closed?
 
thank you so much bro i have terrible asymmetry and everyone here just brushes it off and says that it doesn’t matter but you are a life saver as it was completely ruining my looks and making me look like a animal
 
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thank you so much bro i have terrible asymmetry and everyone here just brushes it off and says that it doesn’t matter but you are a life saver as it was completely ruining my looks and making me look like a animal
no problem, this thread is to point you in the right direction, I understand there is gaps in correction and knowledge.
 
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If its due to bite issue can it be corrected at 18?
 
You said that its nearly impossible to treat .are u talking about all the cases? mine is due to uneven bite which i am fixing now.
 
did not read a single molecule
 
You said that its nearly impossible to treat .are u talking about all the cases? mine is due to uneven bite which i am fixing now.
Past puberty it can be fixed, but still unlikely, puberty is an optimal time to fix these sort of things. As for a bite issue, definitely possible that things could even out as you fix that. This is a whole cranial connection so it’s hard to say one way or the other, but in general past puberty the skull has been formed and usually invasive procedure are the actions that yield results.
 
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Past puberty it can be fixed, but still unlikely, puberty is an optimal time to fix these sort of things. As for a bite issue, definitely possible that things could even out as you fix that. This is a whole cranial connection so it’s hard to say one way or the other, but in general past puberty the skull has been formed and usually invasive procedure are the actions that yield results.
Yea…
 
___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
TLDR: this CAN happen from:
  1. Scoliosis (twisting and curving of the spine)
  2. Neural Preference (body compensates for neurological preference by shifting shape of skull)
  3. Torticollis (a side of the neck pulls/strains, while the other is often loose, causing the spine/neck bones to shift)
  4. Orthodontic Issues (maybe braces gave you bone asymmetry or you haven't had orthodontic care when you need it)
  5. Different Sized Master Muscles (jaw muscles, used for chewing)
  6. Uneven fat pad distribution
  7. Bell's Palsy (nerve paralysis in the face)
  8. Being Human
Solutions for this depend on why it is happening, and can be nearly impossible to solve especially if past puberty.
(idk all the reasons why it can happen but this is what I got)

___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

facial asymmetry is pretty brutal but in a lot of cases its not that big of a deal. what matters more is that the areas themselves are looking good (good eye area, jaw etc.)
when asymmetry is taking place where you can see regression or deformation where you just look worse, that is a problem.
I noticed i looked very different at different angles and posted on here awhile ago about this. my left side of my face looks way better than my right. @Dastan was very helpful talking with me about this issue.
he referred me to the fact that I might scoliosis, which upon looking in the mirror and going to the doctor for x-rays was the case
my scoliosis was labeled as idiopathic (basically my scoliosis is just there, no cause for it to start) but me and Dastan where trying to find a reason behind it so I could possibly solve it/understand it

ill go through the things I've found can cause a situation of facial asymmetry/deformation, and possible solutions:
I will talk about this as it has affected me and my knowledge of it. I am FULLY AWARE I might not know something correctly or what i claim as fact may just be a theory/wrong so Im very open to hear your thoughts on this if you know something I don't.

1. SCOLIOSIS
in my situation my lower jaw as I aged lined up with my neck with my neck being tilted. this caused a side of my face to fall down as my right is drooping and my left is raised up/compressed. this causes a my right side of my face to sag.
scoliosis can also affect the entire shape and position of the skull and every other bone in the body. And can have from what I've seen 2 reasons why its happening (excluding just no reason) those reasons being muscle issues and neurological issues. which I will get into next.

solution: fixing cause of scoliosis or doing exercises and treatments to maintain alignment of the bones (could even go so far as bracing the spine) best to talk to a doctor about this. SCHROTH method is a well liked and used methodology for treating scoliosis.

method: really depends on your situation and theres a lot out there, schroth promotes putting pressure (beanbags) into areas of the body where the the ribs have issues usually the areas where the curve is going into and then using mind muscle connection breathing into the areas that are not usually used.
if you find the root cause and fix the cause of the scoliosis that can help probably the most.


2. NEURAL PREFRENCE
as the body may have a neurological preference, the skull and rest of the body will compensate and move for those preferences. For example if you have eye dominance in your right eye, your skull may shift to allow your right eye to be used more. it is also important to understand that:


a. just because you have great vision that doesn't mean you don't have neural preference
b. you can have neural preference that can occur in different capacities (close range, far range. eyes for example; you can have a close range preference in one eye and a far range preference for another eye)

"so how do I know if I have this?": tests you can do, im not totally sure its not very simple. a neurologist would know more

this may seem a little far fetched but there are studies on this and the doctors I've talked to confirmed this is an actual thing. it can cause scoliosis which can cause facial asymmetry as well.

possible solution: forcing the non-dominant side to be used and equaling out the sides.

methods: earplug or eyepatch (metal gear solid reference?) on the dominant side or contact lens('es)/glasses to force non dominant side to be used


3. TORTICOLLIS
im pretty sure this is the reason behind my scoliosis and neck tilt. my right neck muscles (where my neck is being moved to) are very tight and shortened. my left neck muscles are being stretched across and very loose. this could be happening from the fact that my neck bones are just like this but i doubt it.
this is common in infants but still possible for adults. I noticed i had this even at a very young age but only once i went through puberty did it start to affect my face.

solution: shortening/strengthening the loose side and stretching the pulling side.

known methods: neck harness, laying down on side that is pulling, then moving head up so side that is weak is pulling and holding. getting a wobble board and trying to straighten neck my pulling up and learning to balance body.


4. ORTHODONIC/TEETH ISSUES
if your teeth are messed up either from not having care or the care you got made it worse, that can cause the whole skull to shift around and be weird. if this is the case surgery or orthodontic care is probably the move, i haven't researched this as much as i dont think this is my problem. my teeth are slanted as my skull is slanted, but my teeth are basically aligned as a singular unit.

solution: orthodontic care

method: Invisalign, braces, invasive surgery


5. MASTER MUSCLE ASYMMETRY
I thought I had master muscle asymmetry which I "do", but that is because one muscle is being stretched out and the other is loose so it can be bigger when I clench. To see if you have asymmetry in your master muscles clench them down (if your teeth are messed up that could be the issue too) and feel for them on the back of your jaw bones on your skin (move your hands around for a better result) and feel if a certain side is larger. BUT LIKE I SAID one side for me is being stretched (right) and the other is loose/compressed (left), so the stretched side seems much smaller. in reality I think both are the same size.
if you have a aligned jaw though and still different sized masters muscles then this may be the issue for asymmetry. cause? maybe chewing on one side or a bite is causing you to use on muscle more, like if your teeth are misaligned.

solution: even out the muscles

methods: orthodontic care if your bite is using one side more than the other, stop clenching, MAYBE chew on other side of mouth not sure about that one


6. UNEVEN FAT IN FACE
I have a little bit more fat on the right side of my face but some people have it pretty severe. why is this happening idk the body being strange ig. some people say sleeping on a side of the face can lead to that side being smushed/puffy but im doubtful about this truly being the case. a leaner face in general looks better so if you can get both sides of the face to be lean that would be the best.

solution: loose the fat and make the fat on each side of face match in size

methods: cardio+working out to BE A MAN and to drop fat overall, MAYBE sleeping on your back, to fix asymmetry in the fat pads you can inject fat burners into the bloated area, fillers, or do buccal fat pad removal. some of these are surgical and some can be done on your own (i heard somebody did a fat pad removal on himself on here hahaha mirin low inhib) but seriously do your research and be super careful if your gonna be sticking needles in your face.


7. BELLS PALSY
I dont know a whole lot about this one to be honest, facial nerve paralysis basically. causes drooping and loss of proper function

solution: bringing back nerve function to area of face

method: massaging and getting physical therapy work done


8. BEING HUMAN
self explanatory. if there is some strange oddball thing going on you can fix with a sugery then thats the solution ig. but otherwise acceptance.

solution: money max maybe for surgery, or accepting thats how it be.

method: get a job
for all the autists that say killing yourself is a solution you need to chill


that's what I got. if any of you have comments on this, especially serious proof/methods for any of these situations especially my own that would be appreciated.

ik its the classic cope saying, but facial asymmetry is a lot more noticeable in pictures and to yourself than others. sometimes I think I look deformed but ive had several occasions where girls walk up to me and ask outright to get my number or try to get my number (im not coping theres been obv situations where this has happened). so something to keep in mind for yourself as you workout and improve your looks where you can.
@Dastan
I have the exact same problem as you with my neck being curved what is the solution?
 
I have the exact same problem as you with my neck being curved what is the solution?
Id check with a doctor, tho ask around for one who actually deals with this kinda stuff, in my experience a lot of them dont really know much about this stuff (physical therapists/scoliosis doctors) in part because its just complicated.
if its just your neck, it might be torticollis, but apparently my doctor said if you whole body is curved around then its prob not torticollis as torticollis is only curving of the neck. but maybe i have torticollis and scoliosis, its all a mess.
as for solution ask @Dastan he might be able to help u out, id try shortening the long side and stretching the short side. but tbh we kinda gotta cope with this one. there just isnt much material on this phenomenon. maybe u can find something tho.
 
Id check with a doctor, tho ask around for one who actually deals with this kinda stuff, in my experience a lot of them dont really know much about this stuff (physical therapists/scoliosis doctors) in part because its just complicated.
if its just your neck, it might be torticollis, but apparently my doctor said if you whole body is curved around then its prob not torticollis as torticollis is only curving of the neck. but maybe i have torticollis and scoliosis, its all a mess.
as for solution ask @Dastan he might be able to help u out, id try shortening the long side and stretching the short side. but tbh we kinda gotta cope with this one. there just isnt much material on this phenomenon. maybe u can find something tho.
Can you DM me?
 
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you already are an incel boyo
Incel: a member of an online community of young men who consider themselves unable to attract women sexually, typically associated with views that are hostile toward women and men who are sexually active.

while a member of community of incels, I dont carry those beliefs and i have had instances where I have attracted women.
so maybe a bit of an incel sure
 
Incel: a member of an online community of young men who consider themselves unable to attract women sexually, typically associated with views that are hostile toward women and men who are sexually active.

while a member of community of incels, I dont carry those beliefs and i have had instances where I have attracted women.
so maybe a bit of an incel sure
you just came here through tiktok nigger
 
Pu
___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
TLDR: this CAN happen from:
  1. Scoliosis (twisting and curving of the spine)
  2. Neural Preference (body compensates for neurological preference by shifting shape of skull)
  3. Torticollis (a side of the neck pulls/strains, while the other is often loose, causing the spine/neck bones to shift)
  4. Orthodontic Issues (maybe braces gave you bone asymmetry or you haven't had orthodontic care when you need it)
  5. Different Sized Master Muscles (jaw muscles, used for chewing)
  6. Uneven fat pad distribution
  7. Bell's Palsy (nerve paralysis in the face)
  8. Being Human
Solutions for this depend on why it is happening, and can be nearly impossible to solve especially if past puberty.
(idk all the reasons why it can happen but this is what I got)

___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

facial asymmetry is pretty brutal but in a lot of cases its not that big of a deal. what matters more is that the areas themselves are looking good (good eye area, jaw etc.)
when asymmetry is taking place where you can see regression or deformation where you just look worse, that is a problem.
I noticed i looked very different at different angles and posted on here awhile ago about this. my left side of my face looks way better than my right. @Dastan was very helpful talking with me about this issue.
he referred me to the fact that I might scoliosis, which upon looking in the mirror and going to the doctor for x-rays was the case
my scoliosis was labeled as idiopathic (basically my scoliosis is just there, no cause for it to start) but me and Dastan where trying to find a reason behind it so I could possibly solve it/understand it

ill go through the things I've found can cause a situation of facial asymmetry/deformation, and possible solutions:
I will talk about this as it has affected me and my knowledge of it. I am FULLY AWARE I might not know something correctly or what i claim as fact may just be a theory/wrong so Im very open to hear your thoughts on this if you know something I don't.

1. SCOLIOSIS
in my situation my lower jaw as I aged lined up with my neck with my neck being tilted. this caused a side of my face to fall down as my right is drooping and my left is raised up/compressed. this causes a my right side of my face to sag.
scoliosis can also affect the entire shape and position of the skull and every other bone in the body. And can have from what I've seen 2 reasons why its happening (excluding just no reason) those reasons being muscle issues and neurological issues. which I will get into next.

solution: fixing cause of scoliosis or doing exercises and treatments to maintain alignment of the bones (could even go so far as bracing the spine) best to talk to a doctor about this. SCHROTH method is a well liked and used methodology for treating scoliosis.

method: really depends on your situation and theres a lot out there, schroth promotes putting pressure (beanbags) into areas of the body where the the ribs have issues usually the areas where the curve is going into and then using mind muscle connection breathing into the areas that are not usually used.
if you find the root cause and fix the cause of the scoliosis that can help probably the most.


2. NEURAL PREFRENCE
as the body may have a neurological preference, the skull and rest of the body will compensate and move for those preferences. For example if you have eye dominance in your right eye, your skull may shift to allow your right eye to be used more. it is also important to understand that:


a. just because you have great vision that doesn't mean you don't have neural preference
b. you can have neural preference that can occur in different capacities (close range, far range. eyes for example; you can have a close range preference in one eye and a far range preference for another eye)

"so how do I know if I have this?": tests you can do, im not totally sure its not very simple. a neurologist would know more

this may seem a little far fetched but there are studies on this and the doctors I've talked to confirmed this is an actual thing. it can cause scoliosis which can cause facial asymmetry as well.

possible solution: forcing the non-dominant side to be used and equaling out the sides.

methods: earplug or eyepatch (metal gear solid reference?) on the dominant side or contact lens('es)/glasses to force non dominant side to be used


3. TORTICOLLIS
im pretty sure this is the reason behind my scoliosis and neck tilt. my right neck muscles (where my neck is being moved to) are very tight and shortened. my left neck muscles are being stretched across and very loose. this could be happening from the fact that my neck bones are just like this but i doubt it.
this is common in infants but still possible for adults. I noticed i had this even at a very young age but only once i went through puberty did it start to affect my face.

solution: shortening/strengthening the loose side and stretching the pulling side.

known methods: neck harness, laying down on side that is pulling, then moving head up so side that is weak is pulling and holding. getting a wobble board and trying to straighten neck my pulling up and learning to balance body.


4. ORTHODONIC/TEETH ISSUES
if your teeth are messed up either from not having care or the care you got made it worse, that can cause the whole skull to shift around and be weird. if this is the case surgery or orthodontic care is probably the move, i haven't researched this as much as i dont think this is my problem. my teeth are slanted as my skull is slanted, but my teeth are basically aligned as a singular unit.

solution: orthodontic care

method: Invisalign, braces, invasive surgery


5. MASTER MUSCLE ASYMMETRY
I thought I had master muscle asymmetry which I "do", but that is because one muscle is being stretched out and the other is loose so it can be bigger when I clench. To see if you have asymmetry in your master muscles clench them down (if your teeth are messed up that could be the issue too) and feel for them on the back of your jaw bones on your skin (move your hands around for a better result) and feel if a certain side is larger. BUT LIKE I SAID one side for me is being stretched (right) and the other is loose/compressed (left), so the stretched side seems much smaller. in reality I think both are the same size.
if you have a aligned jaw though and still different sized masters muscles then this may be the issue for asymmetry. cause? maybe chewing on one side or a bite is causing you to use on muscle more, like if your teeth are misaligned.

solution: even out the muscles

methods: orthodontic care if your bite is using one side more than the other, stop clenching, MAYBE chew on other side of mouth not sure about that one


6. UNEVEN FAT IN FACE
I have a little bit more fat on the right side of my face but some people have it pretty severe. why is this happening idk the body being strange ig. some people say sleeping on a side of the face can lead to that side being smushed/puffy but im doubtful about this truly being the case. a leaner face in general looks better so if you can get both sides of the face to be lean that would be the best.

solution: loose the fat and make the fat on each side of face match in size

methods: cardio+working out to BE A MAN and to drop fat overall, MAYBE sleeping on your back, to fix asymmetry in the fat pads you can inject fat burners into the bloated area, fillers, or do buccal fat pad removal. some of these are surgical and some can be done on your own (i heard somebody did a fat pad removal on himself on here hahaha mirin low inhib) but seriously do your research and be super careful if your gonna be sticking needles in your face.


7. BELLS PALSY
I dont know a whole lot about this one to be honest, facial nerve paralysis basically. causes drooping and loss of proper function

solution: bringing back nerve function to area of face

method: massaging and getting physical therapy work done


8. BEING HUMAN
self explanatory. if there is some strange oddball thing going on you can fix with a sugery then thats the solution ig. but otherwise acceptance.

solution: money max maybe for surgery, or accepting thats how it be.

method: get a job
for all the autists that say killing yourself is a solution you need to chill


that's what I got. if any of you have comments on this, especially serious proof/methods for any of these situations especially my own that would be appreciated.

ik its the classic cope saying, but facial asymmetry is a lot more noticeable in pictures and to yourself than others. sometimes I think I look deformed but ive had several occasions where girls walk up to me and ask outright to get my number or try to get my number (im not coping theres been obv situations where this has happened). so something to keep in mind for yourself as you workout and improve your looks where you can.
@Dastan
lld too
 
you just came here through tiktok nigger
also nah through clavicular. why the hate i mean genuinely why do you live your life this way. not motive no reason
 
also nah through clavicular. why the hate i mean genuinely why do you live your life this way. not motive no reason
just take the troll greycel, your chatgpt thread just isnt cutting it for me thats why i dnr'ed it
 
so many people could fix this problem by getting lean and lasix ocassionally
 

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