Fashion is pure cope once you understand how attraction actually works

A

Asaf Bitoun

Iron
Joined
Jan 31, 2025
Posts
6
Reputation
7
Let’s break this down rationally, not emotionally. Fashion is one of the biggest copes in the self-improvement space, right next to “confidence” and “personality.” People want to believe they have control over attraction through external choices - but the evidence from biology, psychology, and dating behavior says otherwise.


Attraction in humans, especially female attraction to males, is primarily driven by morphological and hormonal cues - things that signal genetic fitness. Facial structure (mandibular development, midface projection, eye area symmetry, brow ridge prominence) reflects underlying testosterone exposure, bone growth, and genetic health. These are hard traits, not soft ones.


Fashion, on the other hand, is a cultural overlay - a way to decorate or frame what already exists. You can’t fundamentally alter your sexual dimorphism through clothing. A recessed lower third remains recessed regardless of whether you’re wearing Balenciaga or a Walmart hoodie.


Let’s reference data: studies on dating apps consistently show that facial attractiveness explains the majority of variance in match rates not style. When researchers control for facial attractiveness, clothing and presentation add minimal predictive power. That means the “style effect” is only visible when comparing equally attractive faces. So yes, if two men are both 7/10s facially, the one who dresses better might edge ahead socially. But if one is a 4 and the other is an 8, the 4 can wear designer brands head to toe and still be invisible.


People cope by overemphasizing controllable variables. It feels better to buy clothes than to accept your genetic ceiling. But attraction doesn’t care about effort — only results. A man with poor bone structure and soft features doesn’t suddenly radiate “masculine energy” because his outfit fits well. The neural mechanisms for sexual attraction evolved long before modern fashion existed. They’re scanning for bone, symmetry, and hormone markers not for how your jeans stack with your sneakers.


Even the “status” argument is exaggerated. Status helps only when it’s recognized. Expensive fashion doesn’t convey status to most people unless the brand is obviously elite and even then, it can backfire. A low-tier male in luxury clothing is often perceived as compensating, not attractive. True status signaling in modern society comes from face, physique, and behavior not fabrics.


So when I see people say “style is key,” I interpret that as cope-maxing. They’re trying to rationalize around immutable traits. Yes, fashion might raise your SMV fractionally, but it can’t rewrite your phenotype. It’s like repainting a car with a dented frame - you might make it shinier, but the structure underneath still determines performance.


Bottom line:


  • If your face is low T, your frame is narrow, and your bone mass is underdeveloped, fashion will never bridge that gap.
  • If you’re naturally attractive, style can enhance your presentation slightly, but it’s not the cause of attraction - just a frame for it.
  • In evolutionary and neurological terms, looks precede style, not the other way around.

Fashion is aesthetics for those who can’t alter their genetics. It’s not a solution it’s a pacifier.
 
  • +1
Reactions: LTNUser, 1966Ford, ILikeNihari123 and 2 others
dnr, water
 
  • +1
Reactions: LTNUser, karmacita901, Blud_99 and 5 others
What is it with greys repeating the same water shit over and over and thinking they're blackpill philosophers because of it?
 
  • JFL
  • +1
Reactions: LTNUser, dawooddX, rotation and 12 others
Let’s break this down rationally, not emotionally. Fashion is one of the biggest copes in the self-improvement space, right next to “confidence” and “personality.” People want to believe they have control over attraction through external choices - but the evidence from biology, psychology, and dating behavior says otherwise.


Attraction in humans, especially female attraction to males, is primarily driven by morphological and hormonal cues - things that signal genetic fitness. Facial structure (mandibular development, midface projection, eye area symmetry, brow ridge prominence) reflects underlying testosterone exposure, bone growth, and genetic health. These are hard traits, not soft ones.


Fashion, on the other hand, is a cultural overlay - a way to decorate or frame what already exists. You can’t fundamentally alter your sexual dimorphism through clothing. A recessed lower third remains recessed regardless of whether you’re wearing Balenciaga or a Walmart hoodie.


Let’s reference data: studies on dating apps consistently show that facial attractiveness explains the majority of variance in match rates not style. When researchers control for facial attractiveness, clothing and presentation add minimal predictive power. That means the “style effect” is only visible when comparing equally attractive faces. So yes, if two men are both 7/10s facially, the one who dresses better might edge ahead socially. But if one is a 4 and the other is an 8, the 4 can wear designer brands head to toe and still be invisible.


People cope by overemphasizing controllable variables. It feels better to buy clothes than to accept your genetic ceiling. But attraction doesn’t care about effort — only results. A man with poor bone structure and soft features doesn’t suddenly radiate “masculine energy” because his outfit fits well. The neural mechanisms for sexual attraction evolved long before modern fashion existed. They’re scanning for bone, symmetry, and hormone markers not for how your jeans stack with your sneakers.


Even the “status” argument is exaggerated. Status helps only when it’s recognized. Expensive fashion doesn’t convey status to most people unless the brand is obviously elite and even then, it can backfire. A low-tier male in luxury clothing is often perceived as compensating, not attractive. True status signaling in modern society comes from face, physique, and behavior not fabrics.


So when I see people say “style is key,” I interpret that as cope-maxing. They’re trying to rationalize around immutable traits. Yes, fashion might raise your SMV fractionally, but it can’t rewrite your phenotype. It’s like repainting a car with a dented frame - you might make it shinier, but the structure underneath still determines performance.


Bottom line:


  • If your face is low T, your frame is narrow, and your bone mass is underdeveloped, fashion will never bridge that gap.
  • If you’re naturally attractive, style can enhance your presentation slightly, but it’s not the cause of attraction - just a frame for it.
  • In evolutionary and neurological terms, looks precede style, not the other way around.

Fashion is aesthetics for those who can’t alter their genetics. It’s not a solution it’s a pacifier.
water
 
  • +1
Reactions: Bryce
dnr, no taste rants
 
  • +1
  • JFL
Reactions: LTNUser, Hoax, Orka and 1 other person
What is it with greys repeating the same water shit over and over and thinking they're blackpill philosophers because of it?
this thread will revolutionize org
 
  • JFL
Reactions: LTNUser, Chadville, liberiangrimreaper and 5 others
What is it with greys repeating the same water shit over and over and thinking they're blackpill philosophers because of it?
"bonesmashing is cope heres why"
 
  • JFL
  • +1
Reactions: LTNUser, hax, Orka and 1 other person
Blablablablablabla words blabla
As much as people like being hyper blackpilled its just not true.

Attraction relies PRIMARILY on social status / what she thinks her social status would become by dating you.

If you're a mtn who's super popular in highschool or in your niche then you'll be able to pull women above your lookslevel pretty easily.

Or if you're a cl who's not super popular.

The women get the same thing from this: Elevated social status for either: Dating the popular dude, or dating the hot dude.

Fashion Matters, personality matters, interests matter, looks matter, it all mattters.

Also kill yourself for using AI to talk about some garbage slop lmfao
 
  • +1
Reactions: LTNUser, MogAndOrder, rotation and 6 others
As much as people like being hyper blackpilled its just not true.

Attraction relies PRIMARILY on social status / what she thinks her social status would become by dating you.

If you're a mtn who's super popular in highschool or in your niche then you'll be able to pull women above your lookslevel pretty easily.

Or if you're a cl who's not super popular.

The women get the same thing from this: Elevated social status for either: Dating the popular dude, or dating the hot dude.

Fashion Matters, personality matters, interests matter, looks matter, it all mattters.

Also kill yourself for using AI to talk about some garbage slop lmfao
yes humble him orka:feelsokman::feelsokman::feelsokman:
 
  • JFL
  • +1
Reactions: LTNUser, ybuyhgui and Orka
1761349564465
 
  • JFL
Reactions: LTNUser and Mess
Let’s break this down rationally, not emotionally. Fashion is one of the biggest copes in the self-improvement space, right next to “confidence” and “personality.” People want to believe they have control over attraction through external choices - but the evidence from biology, psychology, and dating behavior says otherwise.


Attraction in humans, especially female attraction to males, is primarily driven by morphological and hormonal cues - things that signal genetic fitness. Facial structure (mandibular development, midface projection, eye area symmetry, brow ridge prominence) reflects underlying testosterone exposure, bone growth, and genetic health. These are hard traits, not soft ones.


Fashion, on the other hand, is a cultural overlay - a way to decorate or frame what already exists. You can’t fundamentally alter your sexual dimorphism through clothing. A recessed lower third remains recessed regardless of whether you’re wearing Balenciaga or a Walmart hoodie.


Let’s reference data: studies on dating apps consistently show that facial attractiveness explains the majority of variance in match rates not style. When researchers control for facial attractiveness, clothing and presentation add minimal predictive power. That means the “style effect” is only visible when comparing equally attractive faces. So yes, if two men are both 7/10s facially, the one who dresses better might edge ahead socially. But if one is a 4 and the other is an 8, the 4 can wear designer brands head to toe and still be invisible.


People cope by overemphasizing controllable variables. It feels better to buy clothes than to accept your genetic ceiling. But attraction doesn’t care about effort — only results. A man with poor bone structure and soft features doesn’t suddenly radiate “masculine energy” because his outfit fits well. The neural mechanisms for sexual attraction evolved long before modern fashion existed. They’re scanning for bone, symmetry, and hormone markers not for how your jeans stack with your sneakers.


Even the “status” argument is exaggerated. Status helps only when it’s recognized. Expensive fashion doesn’t convey status to most people unless the brand is obviously elite and even then, it can backfire. A low-tier male in luxury clothing is often perceived as compensating, not attractive. True status signaling in modern society comes from face, physique, and behavior not fabrics.


So when I see people say “style is key,” I interpret that as cope-maxing. They’re trying to rationalize around immutable traits. Yes, fashion might raise your SMV fractionally, but it can’t rewrite your phenotype. It’s like repainting a car with a dented frame - you might make it shinier, but the structure underneath still determines performance.


Bottom line:


  • If your face is low T, your frame is narrow, and your bone mass is underdeveloped, fashion will never bridge that gap.
  • If you’re naturally attractive, style can enhance your presentation slightly, but it’s not the cause of attraction - just a frame for it.
  • In evolutionary and neurological terms, looks precede style, not the other way around.

Fashion is aesthetics for those who can’t alter their genetics. It’s not a solution it’s a pacifier.
Bookmarked will read later
 
>it's not just x it's y
>it's like (shitty analogy) it might be x but not y
>em dashes
kys op
 
What is it with greys repeating the same water shit over and over and thinking they're blackpill philosophers because of it?
Niggas will swear down that they're the reincarnation of Nietzsche for acknowledging some surface-level shit.
 
  • JFL
  • +1
Reactions: LTNUser, Oliver12, Alienfromserpo1 and 2 others
What is it with greys repeating the same water shit over and over and thinking they're blackpill philosophers because of it?
Chudai Wata:love:
 
  • JFL
Reactions: liberiangrimreaper
Let’s break this down rationally, not emotionally. Fashion is one of the biggest copes in the self-improvement space, right next to “confidence” and “personality.” People want to believe they have control over attraction through external choices - but the evidence from biology, psychology, and dating behavior says otherwise.


Attraction in humans, especially female attraction to males, is primarily driven by morphological and hormonal cues - things that signal genetic fitness. Facial structure (mandibular development, midface projection, eye area symmetry, brow ridge prominence) reflects underlying testosterone exposure, bone growth, and genetic health. These are hard traits, not soft ones.


Fashion, on the other hand, is a cultural overlay - a way to decorate or frame what already exists. You can’t fundamentally alter your sexual dimorphism through clothing. A recessed lower third remains recessed regardless of whether you’re wearing Balenciaga or a Walmart hoodie.


Let’s reference data: studies on dating apps consistently show that facial attractiveness explains the majority of variance in match rates not style. When researchers control for facial attractiveness, clothing and presentation add minimal predictive power. That means the “style effect” is only visible when comparing equally attractive faces. So yes, if two men are both 7/10s facially, the one who dresses better might edge ahead socially. But if one is a 4 and the other is an 8, the 4 can wear designer brands head to toe and still be invisible.


People cope by overemphasizing controllable variables. It feels better to buy clothes than to accept your genetic ceiling. But attraction doesn’t care about effort — only results. A man with poor bone structure and soft features doesn’t suddenly radiate “masculine energy” because his outfit fits well. The neural mechanisms for sexual attraction evolved long before modern fashion existed. They’re scanning for bone, symmetry, and hormone markers not for how your jeans stack with your sneakers.


Even the “status” argument is exaggerated. Status helps only when it’s recognized. Expensive fashion doesn’t convey status to most people unless the brand is obviously elite and even then, it can backfire. A low-tier male in luxury clothing is often perceived as compensating, not attractive. True status signaling in modern society comes from face, physique, and behavior not fabrics.


So when I see people say “style is key,” I interpret that as cope-maxing. They’re trying to rationalize around immutable traits. Yes, fashion might raise your SMV fractionally, but it can’t rewrite your phenotype. It’s like repainting a car with a dented frame - you might make it shinier, but the structure underneath still determines performance.


Bottom line:


  • If your face is low T, your frame is narrow, and your bone mass is underdeveloped, fashion will never bridge that gap.
  • If you’re naturally attractive, style can enhance your presentation slightly, but it’s not the cause of attraction - just a frame for it.
  • In evolutionary and neurological terms, looks precede style, not the other way around.

Fashion is aesthetics for those who can’t alter their genetics. It’s not a solution it’s a pacifier.
Water take
 
Thanks for the post, more people need to hear this
 
Let’s break this down rationally, not emotionally. Fashion is one of the biggest copes in the self-improvement space, right next to “confidence” and “personality.” People want to believe they have control over attraction through external choices - but the evidence from biology, psychology, and dating behavior says otherwise.


Attraction in humans, especially female attraction to males, is primarily driven by morphological and hormonal cues - things that signal genetic fitness. Facial structure (mandibular development, midface projection, eye area symmetry, brow ridge prominence) reflects underlying testosterone exposure, bone growth, and genetic health. These are hard traits, not soft ones.


Fashion, on the other hand, is a cultural overlay - a way to decorate or frame what already exists. You can’t fundamentally alter your sexual dimorphism through clothing. A recessed lower third remains recessed regardless of whether you’re wearing Balenciaga or a Walmart hoodie.


Let’s reference data: studies on dating apps consistently show that facial attractiveness explains the majority of variance in match rates not style. When researchers control for facial attractiveness, clothing and presentation add minimal predictive power. That means the “style effect” is only visible when comparing equally attractive faces. So yes, if two men are both 7/10s facially, the one who dresses better might edge ahead socially. But if one is a 4 and the other is an 8, the 4 can wear designer brands head to toe and still be invisible.


People cope by overemphasizing controllable variables. It feels better to buy clothes than to accept your genetic ceiling. But attraction doesn’t care about effort — only results. A man with poor bone structure and soft features doesn’t suddenly radiate “masculine energy” because his outfit fits well. The neural mechanisms for sexual attraction evolved long before modern fashion existed. They’re scanning for bone, symmetry, and hormone markers not for how your jeans stack with your sneakers.


Even the “status” argument is exaggerated. Status helps only when it’s recognized. Expensive fashion doesn’t convey status to most people unless the brand is obviously elite and even then, it can backfire. A low-tier male in luxury clothing is often perceived as compensating, not attractive. True status signaling in modern society comes from face, physique, and behavior not fabrics.


So when I see people say “style is key,” I interpret that as cope-maxing. They’re trying to rationalize around immutable traits. Yes, fashion might raise your SMV fractionally, but it can’t rewrite your phenotype. It’s like repainting a car with a dented frame - you might make it shinier, but the structure underneath still determines performance.


Bottom line:


  • If your face is low T, your frame is narrow, and your bone mass is underdeveloped, fashion will never bridge that gap.
  • If you’re naturally attractive, style can enhance your presentation slightly, but it’s not the cause of attraction - just a frame for it.
  • In evolutionary and neurological terms, looks precede style, not the other way around.

Fashion is aesthetics for those who can’t alter their genetics. It’s not a solution it’s a pacifier.
Fashion barely helps
 
dnr brah just shorten it to only be the tldr i aint reading a essay
 
did not read a single molecule of this ChatGPT essay
 
Thoughts on this @valentine ?
 

Similar threads

copemaxxing123
Replies
1
Views
75
gigacumster3000
gigacumster3000
wxt_
Replies
26
Views
195
miloeatscookies
miloeatscookies
satanism
Replies
12
Views
473
amiok
amiok
HtnGymcel
Replies
19
Views
580
Water Bomb
Water Bomb

Users who are viewing this thread

  • Back
    Top