fav spots to pin/ fav needle size for test?

[ascendtocl122]

first cycle. wondering if I need a drawing out syringe as well as an injection one as I saw a trt kit that included them. I assume I just take my amount from the vial of test and inject it no? is subcutaneous really that much worse than IM? and where should I pin for IM. also, test p everyday or eod?? just looking for more instructive pinning advice as the good threads don’t really include it. also hcg eod or only post cycle or not at all. Thanks so much <3

@Orka @chot @Stacyslayerᛉ @Giorgio

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[Orka]

first cycle. wondering if I need a drawing out syringe as well as an injection one as I saw a trt kit that included them. I assume I just take my amount from the vial of test and inject it no? is subcutaneous really that much worse than IM? and where should I pin for IM. also, test p everyday or eod?? just looking for more instructive pinning advice as the good threads don’t really include it. also hcg eod or only post cycle or not at all. Thanks so much <3

@Orka @chot @Stacyslayerᛉ @Giorgio

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what ester are you doing & how much?

and yes you should have different needles for drawing & injecting

 

[ascendtocl122]

what ester are you doing & how much?

and yes you should have different needles for drawing & injecting

250test p pinning ed

 

[Orka]

250test p pinning ed

For the love of god, do not pin IM.

 

[bignigga]

first cycle. wondering if I need a drawing out syringe as well as an injection one as I saw a trt kit that included them. I assume I just take my amount from the vial of test and inject it no?

swapping out the needle for a smaller one after drawing is for pussies, 25-27g is usually recommended.

is subcutaneous really that much worse than IM? and where should I pin for IM

just pin IM, in the upper outer quadrant of one of your glutes.

also, test p everyday or eod??

every ester should be pinned everyday, but especially more important with prop

also hcg eod or only post cycle or not at all.

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i would personally do 250IU EOD throughout the whole cycle.

 

[Orka]

For the love of god, do not pin IM.

 

[ascendtocl122]

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is it that bad I thought you get leakage from im and ‘lumps’

 

[chot]

250test p pinning ed

I’m guessing that’s 250 prop a week. You should’ve just went 2x weekly IM vg with enanthate or cypionate. Prop is not for beginners nor is it even a good ester. You will build up a lot of scar tissue with prop.

Do not pin test subq, I did it for months, it’s just not worth it

 

[Orka]

is it that bad I thought you get leakage from im and ‘lumps’

Nigga I had to use a massage gun because I can't walk

prop PIP is notoriously awful, im assuming this is ur first cycle too

 

[bignigga]

Nigga I had to use a massage gun because I can't walk

prop PIP is notoriously awful, im assuming this is ur first cycle too

were you using 200mg/mL dosage

 

[Orka]

were you using 200mg/mL dosage

yes

 

[chot]

Nigga I had to use a massage gun because I can't walk

prop P is notoriously awful, im assuming this is ur first cycle too

Or maybe you just suck at pinning IM. I pinned both quads and glutes, quad can be more painful cuz of all the nerves and blood vessels, glute is essentially painless.

 

[bignigga]

yes

yeah that's probably why then lol

 

[Orka]

Or maybe you just suck at pinning IM. I pinned both quads and glutes, quad can be more painful cuz of all the nerves and blood vessels, glute is essentially painless.

Likely a needle size thing then / related to concentration, since I'm using 23g to pin at 200mg/ml

 

[ascendtocl122]

I’m guessing that’s 250 prop a week. You should’ve just went 2x weekly IM vg with enanthate or cypionate. Prop is not for beginners nor is it even a good ester. You will build up a lot of scar tissue with prop.

Do not pin test subq, I did it for months, it’s just not worth it

what makes prop bad for beginners? I’ve read in the botb roid threads and in research that frequent pins mitigate hormonal swings and limit some of the worse side effects of estrogen by keeping your test stable. not arguing just curious as it seems everyone has a different opinion

 

[bignigga]

what makes prop bad for beginners? I’ve read in the botb roid threads and in research that frequent pins mitigate hormonal swings and limit some of the worse side effects of estrogen by keeping your test stable. not arguing just curious as it seems everyone has a different opinion

did you read the first post i replied with

 

[ascendtocl122]

Likely a needle size thing then / related to concentration, since I'm using 23g to pin at 200mg/ml

Or maybe you just suck at pinning IM. I pinned both quads and glutes, quad can be more painful cuz of all the nerves and blood vessels, glute is essentially painless.

are there any vids (Derek ect) that actually show pinning and how to do it? like putting the needle in and testing to see if it’s in a vein and stuff, im unsure of the technical term.

 

[ascendtocl122]

did you read the first post i replied with

ahh, due to the shorter ester I imagine there will be bad sides if you miss a pin whereas c and p are more forgiving?

 

[chot]

Likely a needle size thing then / related to concentration, since I'm using 23g to pin at 200mg/ml

You pinned with a fucking 23g? That’s not your drawing needle??

 

[chot]

ahh, due to the shorter ester I imagine there will be bad sides if you miss a pin whereas c and p are more forgiving?

Yes you can miss a whole week on cyp and feel the same, on prop you will have less energy a couple days after not pinning

 

[Orka]

You pinned with a fucking 23g? That’s not your drawing needle??

my drawing needle is 21g

 

[chot]

are there any vids (Derek ect) that actually show pinning and how to do it? like putting the needle in and testing to see if it’s in a vein and stuff, im unsure of the technical term.

The easiest will be ventro glute. Just standup and put your weight on the opposite leg of which one you’re pinning

Feel your glute muscle and feel for the ticklish and tender part of your glute. It shouldn’t be too grab-able or fat. Insert at 90 degrees with at least 1 inch needle and spread the skin before you pin and while the needle is inside

 

[chot]

It should be relatively painless and just has a kind of sore dull feeling going in, if it’s sharp or you see lots of blood just repin. You do not need to aspirate

 

[ascendtocl122]

Yes you can miss a whole week on cyp and feel the same, on prop you will have less energy a couple days after not pinning

okay sweet. found some good vids on where to pin. one last thing, so I buy two sets of needles one 25g (to pin) one 23g to draw and one set of syringes. do I need luer lock connectors or no?

 

[ascendtocl122]

The easiest will be ventro glute. Just standup and put your weight on the opposite leg of which one you’re pinning

Feel your glute muscle and feel for the ticklish and tender part of your glute. It shouldn’t be too grab-able or fat. Insert at 90 degrees with at least 1 inch needle and spread the skin before you pin and while the needle is inside

yep I’ll do either glute or quad. Thank you SO MUCH!! i hope i can pay u back one day and give you a cake or something. so nice to actually get advised from educated people instead of just called a nigger and dnr

 

[chot]

okay sweet. found some good vids on where to pin. one last thing, so I buy two sets of needles one 25g (to pin) one 23g to draw and one set of syringes. do I need luer lock connectors or no?

Just use 27g to pin and 23g to draw bro you’re not pinning 5ml of fucking oil

 

[chot]

okay sweet. found some good vids on where to pin. one last thing, so I buy two sets of needles one 25g (to pin) one 23g to draw and one set of syringes. do I need luer lock connectors or no?

Just use easytouch luer locks and generic Amazon luer lock needles

 

[ascendtocl122]

Just use 27g to pin and 23g to draw bro you’re not pinning 5ml of fucking oil

yeah. Likely will be pinning less than .5ml a day as my test p is dosed at 100mg/ml

 

[ascendtocl122]

Just use easytouch luer locks and generic Amazon luer lock needles

yeah I’ll be pinning .35 ml everyday, should I just get 1\2 ml syringes instead

 

[chot]

yeah I’ll be pinning .35 ml everyday, should I just get 1\2 ml syringes instead

No really you should just get enanthate or cyp, if it’s less than $200 of prop you still have left just don’t use it. Prop is such a horrible ester. You do not want to pin im everyday

 

[ascendtocl122]

No really you should just get enanthate or cyp, if it’s less than $200 of prop you still have left just don’t use it. Prop is such a horrible ester. You do not want to pin im everyday

is it really that bad? I guess I can try enanthate but i still kind of want to pin ed or eod

 

[ascendtocl122]

No really you should just get enanthate or cyp, if it’s less than $200 of prop you still have left just don’t use it. Prop is such a horrible ester. You do not want to pin im everyday

if I was gonna pin prop I should get .5cc syringes tho if I’m pinning .35 ml everyday?

 

[sub5ginger]

Glute. 25g 1 inch.

 

[chot]

is it really that bad? I guess I can try enanthate but i still kind of want to pin ed or eod

Why do you want to pin ed? You shouldn’t want to pin and if you feel like pinning now, you surely will fucking hate it and do all you can to make it as easy as possible in the future. We all liked pinning at first but after a couple months it just sucks ass.

You get more stable levels on enanthate or cyp even pinning 2x weekly btw

 

[George10033]

first cycle. wondering if I need a drawing out syringe as well as an injection one as I saw a trt kit that included them. I assume I just take my amount from the vial of test and inject it no? is subcutaneous really that much worse than IM? and where should I pin for IM. also, test p everyday or eod?? just looking for more instructive pinning advice as the good threads don’t really include it. also hcg eod or only post cycle or not at all. Thanks so much <3

@Orka @chot @Stacyslayerᛉ @Giorgio

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23G in delts and ventroglutes

 

[incelslayer]

What are you injecting

 

[Giorgio]

suq in the fat near upper glutes

 

[Giorgio]

23G

if you want to get stabbed, just visit london, no need to do it yourself jfl

 

[g-money]

What are you injecting

deez nutz

 

[test monster]

first cycle. wondering if I need a drawing out syringe as well as an injection one as I saw a trt kit that included them. I assume I just take my amount from the vial of test and inject it no? is subcutaneous really that much worse than IM? and where should I pin for IM. also, test p everyday or eod?? just looking for more instructive pinning advice as the good threads don’t really include it. also hcg eod or only post cycle or not at all. Thanks so much <3

@Orka @chot @Stacyslayerᛉ @Giorgio

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1530 posts.Dude didnt do an ounce of research on ts he js posted a thread