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Preference for body hair is mostly cultural, probably yet another outdated idea of attractiveness rooted in the male gaze. If you want to be attractive to young women, your body hair has to go.


There's a lot of discussion whether body hair is a masculine, attractive and dimorphic trait that should be only trimmed or whether it's a failo that hides muscle definition, reduces perception of youthfulness and gives a dirty vibe. Likewise, there are a LOT of conflicting anecdotes around this topic; plenty of people say things like:

"girls love stroking my chest hair after sex!"
"a man who shaves his arms or legs isn't masculine and will appear vain, that's a turn off for girls"
"my girlfriend likes my body hair and doesn't want me to shave it"


but at the same time, I see a lot of people going:

"all hollywood actors are fully shaven in their shirtless scenes"
"my girlfriend thinks body hair is disgusting and wants me to at least trim it"
"it makes no sense to gymcel and keep body hair, it will hide your definition"


So, I've decided to look for a definitive answer to this age-old dilemma, beyond cultural differences and fashion fads. This study https://academic.oup.com/beheco/article/21/2/419/322906 gives us some really interesting insight.

1. Body hair preference is highly subjective, or related to familial ties.

'We found that the women’s preferences correlated strongly with the hairiness of their current partners, suggesting that body hair may play a role in actual mate choice'
'The hairiness of the women’s fathers correlated positively with that of their current mates. This suggests that women’s preferences as to male hairiness may be partly the result of sexual imprinting on paternal body hair and/or that this preference is heritable.'

2. Contrary to widespread cultural beliefs, hairy males are biologically perceived as less fertile and less reproductively valuable.

'We also found that when the women’s fertility was at its highest, they preferred males with less body hair...'
'...women prefer more the trait that is the current Western ideal of male beauty (hairlessness) than the trait that is traditionally (albeit incorrectly) seen as a symbol of high testosterone levels and masculinity.'
'... it seems that the phase of the menstrual cycle may affect the strength and direction of female preference even for traits that are not “good genes” indicators and whose preference may be culturally based.'

3. Younger women show less of a preference towards body hair.

'...post-menopausal women demonstrated stronger preferences relating to male body hair than did pre-menopausal women.'
 
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so I should hit on grannies thanks op
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over for my chaddam beard cope and tree like legs
 
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'...post-menopausal women demonstrated stronger preferences relating to male body hair than did pre-menopausal women.'
that doesnt mean premenopauslal women dont like it tho
 
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Yeah I kind of knew that already, I've dwelled on this topic since I'm self conscious about my own body hair

Probably why in Asia women are so grossed out by body hair, especially chest. Most asian guys don't have chest hair so naturally it's uncanny for them. Asian girls in the west don't seem to mind as much though.

But yeah body hair is giga subhuman, I wouldn't go as far as saying it's bad genetics, it simply looks better and neat when you're hairless.

But at the same time I feel conflicted and feel like I shouldn't be submitting to foids pleasure and shutting down something that's undeniably a part of masculinity. How many men are completely hairless? Not many, so idk fuck me for being subhuman
 
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Yes, the only place you should have hair is on top of your cranium.

For the female gaze, you must have 0 hair. Also, don't forget to shave your anus too. It's the small details that matter in this hyper-competitive dating market.
 
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Meet the boneless alien cuck who authored that cope study:


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It is common knowledge that testosterone and other androgens (esp dihydrotestosterone) correlate with body hair.
 
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Meet the boneless alien cuck who authored that cope study:


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It is common knowledge that testosterone and other androgens (esp dihydrotestosterone) correlate with body hair.
I don't even know where to start.

1. A researcher being ugly doesn't invalidate his points in a scientific study.
2. The study is not claiming testosterone and body hair are not correlated.
3. "Common knowledge" is pointless, the bluepill is common knowledge, that doesn't make it valid.
4. Nose hair is also correlated with testosterone; does that make nose hair attractive?
 
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I don't even know where to start.

1. A researcher being ugly doesn't invalidate his points in a scientific study.

But does provide evidence of bias when it's this peculiar.
It is also possible that this guy was compromised with child pornography by the CCP and forced to author explicitly anti-western studies, since he looks like a pedophile faggot.

2. The study is not claiming testosterone and body hair are not correlated.

Yes it did.
In fact it said hairy men are low-T, high estrogen.


3. "Common knowledge" is pointless, the bluepill is common knowledge, that doesn't make it valid.

When I say common knowledge, I mean described in multiple peer refiewed articles that this resesrcher didn't mention for some reason...


4. Nose hair is also correlated with testosterone;

Source?

Just fucking kys
 
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But does provide evidence of bias when it's this peculiar.
Peculiar? It's just an ugly researcher publishing a research paper, it's no different than any other ugly researcher publishing their paper.
Yes it did.
In fact it said hairy men are low-T, high estrogen.
Point to me where it said that.
When I say common knowledge, I mean described in multiple peer refiewed articles that this resesrcher didn't mention for some reason...
There was no reason to mention them, since the paper isn't about the correlation between T and body hair.

You are coping and seething, it's very clear from your words.
 

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