Filler; The method that Zeta, K Shami and all your favorite content creators use but is gatekept because it is too accessible

[wastedsperm02]

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Why fillers are not “bad,” why HA fillers are reversible, and why the anti-filler narrative is misleading​

I keep seeing the same talking point repeated over and over:

“Fillers are bad because they migrate and ruin your face.” or something like that

This is not accurate and used by your favorite creators to gate keep the only affordable hardmaxx that you can actually have money to get before the age of 30.

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1. “Fillers” are not one single thing​

One of the biggest problems with looksmaxxing discourse is that all fillers get lumped together as if they’re identical. They are not.

There are:

• Temporary fillers
• Semi-permanent fillers
• Permanent fillers
• Different gel densities
• Different molecular cross-linking
• Different intended tissue planes

When people say “fillers are bad,” they almost never specify which filler, where, how much, or by whom. That alone should raise red flags.

Hyaluronic acid (HA) fillers are a specific category — and they behave very differently from older or permanent fillers.

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2. HA fillers are reversible (this is not optional or debatable)​

HA fillers can be dissolved with hyaluronidase, an enzyme that breaks down hyaluronic acid.

This means:

• If placement is wrong → it can be undone
• If volume is too much → it can be undone
• If someone changes their mind → it can be undone

People online often confuse:

• Tissue stretch
• Fibrosis
• Natural aging

with “leftover filler.” Those are not the same thing.

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3. The migration claim is wildly exaggerated​

Yes, fillers can shift slightly in some cases. That is not the same as filler “traveling around your face uncontrollably.”

Most so-called “migration” comes from:

• Overfilling
• Wrong injection plane
• Poor injector technique
• Using the wrong filler thickness for the area

When HA fillers are:

• Conservatively dosed
• Placed in the correct anatomical plane
• Used for structural support instead of inflation

migration is minimal, localized, and usually correctable.

Detection on imaging ≠ visible harm.

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4. Studies are constantly misrepresented​

Many people cite studies they haven’t actually read.

Common issues:

• Small sample sizes
• No baseline imaging
• No injection technique data
• No distinction between filler types
• No assessment of aesthetic outcome

Finding filler remnants on MRI does not mean:

• It looks bad
• It’s dangerous
• It can’t be dissolved

Online arguments often jump straight from “detected” to “ruined forever,” which is not how medicine works.

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5. HA fillers are not permanent changes​

Another lie that gets repeated is that fillers “permanently alter your face.”

Reality:

• HA fillers naturally break down over time
• Dissolving exists
• They do not fuse with bone
• They do not permanently replace tissue

What can be long-lasting is good bone support illusion, which is exactly why they’re used strategically in:

• Jaw
• Chin
• Cheek support
• Facial balancing

That’s a feature, not a flaw.

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6. Looksmaxxing creators leave out critical context​

They usually:

• Show worst-case outcomes only
• Ignore injector skill completely
• Pretend all fillers are permanent
• Never mention reversibility
• Never explain different filler types
• Push surgery as the only “real” solution

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7. Fillers are the only realistic and affordable looksmaxx for most people​

Let’s be honest.

Not everyone can:

• Afford surgery
• Take months off for recovery
• Accept permanent skeletal changes
• Risk irreversible outcomes

HA fillers offer:

• Gradual improvement
• Customization
• Reversibility
• Lower cost
• Lower commitment
• Predictable outcomes when done correctly

For the average person, this makes fillers the most accessible and realistic looksmaxxing tool available.

Calling them “bad” across the board ignores basic risk–benefit logic.

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8. A balanced take (not cope, not fear)​

The correct position is not:

• “Fillers are perfect”
  or
• “Fillers ruin everyone”

The correct position is:

HA fillers are medical tools.
When used correctly, conservatively, and strategically, they are effective, reversible, and widely used for a reason.

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Final thought​

If fillers were truly uncontrollable, irreversible, and face-destroying, they would not:

• Be used worldwide
• Be first-line aesthetic treatments
• Be preferred over permanent fillers
• Have a built-in reversal mechanism

If people want to argue against fillers, they should at least argue against the correct type, mechanism, and context.

Btw it is obvious that Zeta and K Shami have had filler and they are gatekeeping it. I'm pretty sure that Zeta has admitted it once in a podcast.

 

[zygosmasher12]

mirin, good iq, good facts and arguments, although without any real proof we cant assume people have filler, although i have personally seen a lot of good filler injections. should have posted this in looksmaxxing not cosmetic surgery because no one checks this shit

 

[samgrattlescouilles]

They all got fillers especially this faggot nocturnal kent

 

[chadpreetinthemakin]

Goated thread chin filler saved my confidence

 

[AustrianMogger]

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Why fillers are not “bad,” why HA fillers are reversible, and why the anti-filler narrative is misleading​

I keep seeing the same talking point repeated over and over:



This is not accurate and used by your favorite creators to gate keep the only affordable hardmaxx that you can actually have money to get before the age of 30.

---

1. “Fillers” are not one single thing​

One of the biggest problems with looksmaxxing discourse is that all fillers get lumped together as if they’re identical. They are not.

There are:

• Temporary fillers
• Semi-permanent fillers
• Permanent fillers
• Different gel densities
• Different molecular cross-linking
• Different intended tissue planes

When people say “fillers are bad,” they almost never specify which filler, where, how much, or by whom. That alone should raise red flags.

Hyaluronic acid (HA) fillers are a specific category — and they behave very differently from older or permanent fillers.

---

2. HA fillers are reversible (this is not optional or debatable)​

HA fillers can be dissolved with hyaluronidase, an enzyme that breaks down hyaluronic acid.

This means:

• If placement is wrong → it can be undone
• If volume is too much → it can be undone
• If someone changes their mind → it can be undone

People online often confuse:

• Tissue stretch
• Fibrosis
• Natural aging

with “leftover filler.” Those are not the same thing.

---

3. The migration claim is wildly exaggerated​

Yes, fillers can shift slightly in some cases. That is not the same as filler “traveling around your face uncontrollably.”

Most so-called “migration” comes from:

• Overfilling
• Wrong injection plane
• Poor injector technique
• Using the wrong filler thickness for the area

When HA fillers are:

• Conservatively dosed
• Placed in the correct anatomical plane
• Used for structural support instead of inflation

migration is minimal, localized, and usually correctable.

Detection on imaging ≠ visible harm.

---

4. Studies are constantly misrepresented​

Many people cite studies they haven’t actually read.

Common issues:

• Small sample sizes
• No baseline imaging
• No injection technique data
• No distinction between filler types
• No assessment of aesthetic outcome

Finding filler remnants on MRI does not mean:

• It looks bad
• It’s dangerous
• It can’t be dissolved

Online arguments often jump straight from “detected” to “ruined forever,” which is not how medicine works.

---

5. HA fillers are not permanent changes​

Another lie that gets repeated is that fillers “permanently alter your face.”

Reality:

• HA fillers naturally break down over time
• Dissolving exists
• They do not fuse with bone
• They do not permanently replace tissue

What can be long-lasting is good bone support illusion, which is exactly why they’re used strategically in:

• Jaw
• Chin
• Cheek support
• Facial balancing

That’s a feature, not a flaw.

---

6. Looksmaxxing creators leave out critical context​

They usually:

• Show worst-case outcomes only
• Ignore injector skill completely
• Pretend all fillers are permanent
• Never mention reversibility
• Never explain different filler types
• Push surgery as the only “real” solution

---

7. Fillers are the only realistic and affordable looksmaxx for most people​

Let’s be honest.

Not everyone can:

• Afford surgery
• Take months off for recovery
• Accept permanent skeletal changes
• Risk irreversible outcomes

HA fillers offer:

• Gradual improvement
• Customization
• Reversibility
• Lower cost
• Lower commitment
• Predictable outcomes when done correctly

For the average person, this makes fillers the most accessible and realistic looksmaxxing tool available.

Calling them “bad” across the board ignores basic risk–benefit logic.

---

8. A balanced take (not cope, not fear)​

The correct position is not:

• “Fillers are perfect”
  or
• “Fillers ruin everyone”

The correct position is:

---

Final thought​

If fillers were truly uncontrollable, irreversible, and face-destroying, they would not:

• Be used worldwide
• Be first-line aesthetic treatments
• Be preferred over permanent fillers
• Have a built-in reversal mechanism

If people want to argue against fillers, they should at least argue against the correct type, mechanism, and context.

Btw it is obvious that Zeta and K Shami have had filler and they are gatekeeping it. I'm pretty sure that Zeta has admitted it once in a podcast.

guys will do everything but surgery

 

[Lefor3Laser]

---

Why fillers are not “bad,” why HA fillers are reversible, and why the anti-filler narrative is misleading​

I keep seeing the same talking point repeated over and over:



This is not accurate and used by your favorite creators to gate keep the only affordable hardmaxx that you can actually have money to get before the age of 30.

---

1. “Fillers” are not one single thing​

One of the biggest problems with looksmaxxing discourse is that all fillers get lumped together as if they’re identical. They are not.

There are:

• Temporary fillers
• Semi-permanent fillers
• Permanent fillers
• Different gel densities
• Different molecular cross-linking
• Different intended tissue planes

When people say “fillers are bad,” they almost never specify which filler, where, how much, or by whom. That alone should raise red flags.

Hyaluronic acid (HA) fillers are a specific category — and they behave very differently from older or permanent fillers.

---

2. HA fillers are reversible (this is not optional or debatable)​

HA fillers can be dissolved with hyaluronidase, an enzyme that breaks down hyaluronic acid.

This means:

• If placement is wrong → it can be undone
• If volume is too much → it can be undone
• If someone changes their mind → it can be undone

People online often confuse:

• Tissue stretch
• Fibrosis
• Natural aging

with “leftover filler.” Those are not the same thing.

---

3. The migration claim is wildly exaggerated​

Yes, fillers can shift slightly in some cases. That is not the same as filler “traveling around your face uncontrollably.”

Most so-called “migration” comes from:

• Overfilling
• Wrong injection plane
• Poor injector technique
• Using the wrong filler thickness for the area

When HA fillers are:

• Conservatively dosed
• Placed in the correct anatomical plane
• Used for structural support instead of inflation

migration is minimal, localized, and usually correctable.

Detection on imaging ≠ visible harm.

---

4. Studies are constantly misrepresented​

Many people cite studies they haven’t actually read.

Common issues:

• Small sample sizes
• No baseline imaging
• No injection technique data
• No distinction between filler types
• No assessment of aesthetic outcome

Finding filler remnants on MRI does not mean:

• It looks bad
• It’s dangerous
• It can’t be dissolved

Online arguments often jump straight from “detected” to “ruined forever,” which is not how medicine works.

---

5. HA fillers are not permanent changes​

Another lie that gets repeated is that fillers “permanently alter your face.”

Reality:

• HA fillers naturally break down over time
• Dissolving exists
• They do not fuse with bone
• They do not permanently replace tissue

What can be long-lasting is good bone support illusion, which is exactly why they’re used strategically in:

• Jaw
• Chin
• Cheek support
• Facial balancing

That’s a feature, not a flaw.

---

6. Looksmaxxing creators leave out critical context​

They usually:

• Show worst-case outcomes only
• Ignore injector skill completely
• Pretend all fillers are permanent
• Never mention reversibility
• Never explain different filler types
• Push surgery as the only “real” solution

---

7. Fillers are the only realistic and affordable looksmaxx for most people​

Let’s be honest.

Not everyone can:

• Afford surgery
• Take months off for recovery
• Accept permanent skeletal changes
• Risk irreversible outcomes

HA fillers offer:

• Gradual improvement
• Customization
• Reversibility
• Lower cost
• Lower commitment
• Predictable outcomes when done correctly

For the average person, this makes fillers the most accessible and realistic looksmaxxing tool available.

Calling them “bad” across the board ignores basic risk–benefit logic.

---

8. A balanced take (not cope, not fear)​

The correct position is not:

• “Fillers are perfect”
  or
• “Fillers ruin everyone”

The correct position is:

---

Final thought​

If fillers were truly uncontrollable, irreversible, and face-destroying, they would not:

• Be used worldwide
• Be first-line aesthetic treatments
• Be preferred over permanent fillers
• Have a built-in reversal mechanism

If people want to argue against fillers, they should at least argue against the correct type, mechanism, and context.

Btw it is obvious that Zeta and K Shami have had filler and they are gatekeeping it. I'm pretty sure that Zeta has admitted it once in a podcast.

Yep i truly agree, and to top the fact (i got fillers like a month ago), only first 2 weeks is migration might happen, but it wouldn't happen randomly, it would happen if you slept on the sides for to long, touching, pinching, hot water and so on, those are also a big factor.

They are safe and i would recommend them, wouldn't turn you into a chad, but it's definetely a improvment.

 

[Ascension75]

before after results would have helped this thread

 

[Mr.Proper]

Hello ChatGPT.
Hyaluronidase, while an option, may make your own soft tissues worse by depleting your own hyaluronic acid. Should be used very carefully and as few times as possible.

 

[ltn_looksminner]

guys will do everything but surgery

Results wise filler looks better than angle implants for example , surgery isn't always the best option ,

 

[_xClarityyyy]

guys will do everything but surgery

true that, Surgery is the most valuable looksmax ever.

Results wise filler looks better than angle implants for example , surgery isn't always the best option ,

not the case all the time, depends person to person... fillers give flexibility like if you dont like you can revert easily... not the same case as with implants.

 

[_xClarityyyy]

They all got fillers especially this faggot nocturnal kent

shami got surgery, jawad uses fillers, stickley got bimax