Final Consensus On Collagen

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Collagen is absolute necessity and it's hard to retrieve when you loss if it's not impossible.


So , what is the final checklist for this ?
 
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Tretinoin

Have a tan

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Godly skin
 
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how the fuck you can with tret usage ?
Have u ever used tret? Sounds to me like u have never

U can tan on tret it just means ur more likely to burn if u have burnable skin

If that's the case u should be using mt2

Trust me it works
 
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Collagen is absolute necessity and it's hard to retrieve when you loss if it's not impossible.


So , what is the final checklist for this ?
Don’t be Indian
 
Have u ever used tret? Sounds to me like u have never

U can tan on tret it just means ur more likely to burn if u have burnable skin

If that's the case u should be using mt2

Trust me it works
are u kidding me ? tret make your skin so much thinner. tanning will fuck your skin up.
 
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are u kidding me ? tret make your skin so much thinner. tanning will fuck your skin up.
Just put on some sunscreen then go to the sun for 1-2 hours a day for 2 weeks and you got your tan under tret without probleme
 
Man there has to be a legit way to get collagen back
 
Pretty sure you can get some of it back

people don’t look old due to collagen loss anyways, Brad Pitt always had shit collagen

people look old due to facial fat loss
 
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Pretty sure you can get some of it back

people don’t look old due to collagen loss anyways, Brad Pitt always had shit collagen

people look old due to facial fat loss
Indeed hair and bones and leanness for men. Collagen is more important for women but still worth taking care of as a man
 
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Indeed hair and bones and leanness for men. Collagen is more important for women but still worth taking care of as a man
Hair is EVERYTHING to aging ngl, collagen is a bonus but look here. Even with bad collagen travolta mogs so fucking hard cus of it
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Another example, hair god Moose Ali Khan NW0 at Age 55, his collagen isn't close to what he was in his prime yet still giga grayfox chad, would be invisible without his nw0 dense gray hair.
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Prime Moose Ali Khan
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Just put tret and sunscreen thats it
 
Hair is EVERYTHING to aging ngl, collagen is a bonus but look here. Even with bad collagen travolta mogs so fucking hard cus of it
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Another example, hair god Moose Ali Khan NW0 at Age 55, his collagen isn't close to what he was in his prime yet still giga grayfox chad, would be invisible without his nw0 dense gray hair.
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Prime Moose Ali Khan
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Indeed women have to look young, men just have to look good. Indicators of youth vs indicators of genetic quality.

That moose nigga is a mogger, never seen him before. And yeah. No one is gonna mistake him or pitt, or the Jamie Lannister dude as young, but they look good so who cares
 
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Indeed women have to look young, men just have to look good. Indicators of youth vs indicators of genetic quality.

That moose nigga is a mogger, never seen him before. And yeah. No one is gonna mistake him or pitt, or the Jamie Lannister dude as young, but they look good so who cares
Men need hair to look good, it's the main reason why i'm considering oral fin at early 20s so I don't bald. My dad is nw 7 subhuman but my older brother hasn't balded since he has my grandpas genes from moms side.

Moose Ali Khan is giga chad, he has insane appeal as grayfox chad i'd argue his appeal is higher now since his nw0 gray hair actually looks fucking insane but he settled with another white stacy model back in the day and married her. I'd pay everything for his insane hairline, literally unmoggable in hair quality and longevity.
He won't be mistaken as young but his hair carries his SMV. Doesn't really matter as their hair is still very good and they have a ton of masculine rugged appeal.
 
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Men need hair to look good, it's the main reason why i'm considering oral fin at early 20s so I don't bald. My dad is nw 7 subhuman but my older brother hasn't balded since he has my grandpas genes from moms side.

Moose Ali Khan is giga chad, he has insane appeal as grayfox chad i'd argue his appeal is higher now since his nw0 gray hair actually looks fucking insane but he settled with another white stacy model back in the day and married her. I'd pay everything for his insane hairline, literally unmoggable in hair quality and longevity.
He won't be mistaken as young but his hair carries his SMV. Doesn't really matter as their hair is still very good and they have a ton of masculine rugged appeal.
Yeah I’ve always thought men with thick hair and good bones and low bf look better when older than in their so called prime of 20s. Hopefully I can be part of that club too. Looks high class and mogger af. I’ve got balding genes and if it makes you feel any better about the possibility that you do as well, I’ve been on fin for months with no sides. If you’re prone then don’t fall for the fear mongering
 
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Men need hair to look good, it's the main reason why i'm considering oral fin at early 20s so I don't bald. My dad is nw 7 subhuman but my older brother hasn't balded since he has my grandpas genes from moms side.

Moose Ali Khan is giga chad, he has insane appeal as grayfox chad i'd argue his appeal is higher now since his nw0 gray hair actually looks fucking insane but he settled with another white stacy model back in the day and married her. I'd pay everything for his insane hairline, literally unmoggable in hair quality and longevity.
He won't be mistaken as young but his hair carries his SMV. Doesn't really matter as their hair is still very good and they have a ton of masculine rugged appeal.
I'm starting to think about smoking plus drugs to avoid the norwood reaper
 
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Yeah I’ve always thought men with thick hair and good bones and low bf look better when older than in their so called prime of 20s. Hopefully I can be part of that club too. Looks high class and mogger af. I’ve got balding genes and if it makes you feel any better about the possibility that you do as well, I’ve been on fin for months with no sides. If you’re prone then don’t fall for the fear mongering
Indeed, if you have the hair I think a mans peak in SMV is 40 or even 50. You have more money and status than ever and ALSO looks with hair which most men don't have at that age just think about that. Gray hair doesn't even look bad on men either IMO

Yup bro, I have to get on fin as i'm high DHT naturally. my brother is very high DHT but he hasn't balded and so was my grandpa who had a nw0 hairline at 60.

Yeah I don't worry about the side effects seems like a meme for the most part as fin just crushes the useless garbage that is DHT past puberty and also doesn't happen to many people that are on it. I wanna get on it early as preventing hair loss is far easier than regrowing, and if I take it early I'll likely have a full head of hair by the time i'm 40-60. Hair is vital to a mans look and appeal.
 
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Indeed, if you have the hair I think a mans peak in SMV is 40 or even 50. You have more money and status than ever and ALSO looks with hair which most men don't have at that age just think about that. Gray hair doesn't even look bad on men either IMO

Yup bro, I have to get on fin as i'm high DHT naturally. my brother is very high DHT but he hasn't balded and so was my grandpa who had a nw0 hairline at 60.

Yeah I don't worry about the side effects seems like a meme for the most part as fin just crushes the useless garbage that is DHT past puberty. I wanna get on it early as preventing hair loss is far easier than regrowing, and if I take it early I'll likely have a full head of hair by the time i'm 40-60. Hair is vital to a mans look and appeal.
Indeed I wish I had started before I was nw1.5-2. I hope that I can figure out a protocol that’ll truly stop my hair loss, but who knows. My balding genes are very bad. But that’s the biggest thing so imma try my best. 6’, fit, big dick, probably 6 psl or so after bimax, very high iq so money after I fix my sleep. I could be a rich chad at 40 slaying EE teen stacies, or I could be bald. Not hard to stay motivated with all that on the line
 
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Indeed I wish I had started before I was nw1.5-2. I hope that I can figure out a protocol that’ll truly stop my hair loss, but who knows. My balding genes are very bad. But that’s the biggest thing so imma try my best. 6’, fit, big dick, probably 6 psl or so after bimax, very high iq so money after I fix my sleep. I could be a rich chad at 40 slaying EE teen stacies, or I could be bald. Not hard to stay motivated with all that on the line
I've heard good things about Finasteride + RU.

Yeah man i've heard a ton of regret stories from men who wished they started earlier but they didn't because of the fear mongering shit, NW1.5 NW2 is far better than nw 5 though :lul: I wanna be max NW2 throughout my lifetime, pref NW0-1 from 20-50. That's really the only reason I'm taking it earlier, my dad had very odd hair genes.
 
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I've heard good things about Finasteride + RU.

Yeah man i've heard a ton of regret stories from men who wished they started earlier but they didn't because of the fear mongering shit, NW1.5 NW2 is far better than nw 5 though :lul: I wanna be max NW2 throughout my lifetime, pref NW0-1 from 20-50. That's really the only reason I'm taking it earlier, my dad had very odd hair genes.
Unironically it probably can’t hurt to start as a preventative measure in your 20s. I was on ru for the last two weeks but then I got some ache in my heart so I stopped. Stopping at least until after my surgery. If I don’t get regrowth I’ll just drop a few grand on a small ht
 
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Unironically it probably can’t hurt to start as a preventative measure in your 20s. I was on ru for the last two weeks but then I got some ache in my heart so I stopped. Stopping at least until after my surgery. If I don’t get regrowth I’ll just drop a few grand on a small ht
Yeah, Fin at early 20s doesn't seem like a bad idea cus you're preventing the shitstorm that may come.
These two twins are identical in environment and other shit. The only different thing they did is that one inhibited A5R before the other, the other coped and thought hair didn't matter but he started late. You can see which kept their hair and which didn't

Seems like a wise move bro, get that transplant and then stick to fin to keep it(y)
 
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Hair is EVERYTHING to aging ngl, collagen is a bonus but look here. Even with bad collagen travolta mogs so fucking hard cus of it
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Another example, hair god Moose Ali Khan NW0 at Age 55, his collagen isn't close to what he was in his prime yet still giga grayfox chad, would be invisible without his nw0 dense gray hair.
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Prime Moose Ali Khan
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near impossible to have that hair when old. it's really super rare
 
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Yeah, Fin at early 20s doesn't seem like a bad idea cus you're preventing the shitstorm that may come.
These two twins are identical in environment and other shit. The only different thing they did is that one inhibited A5R before the other, the other coped and thought hair didn't matter but he started late. You can see which kept their hair and which didn't

Seems like a wise move bro, get that transplant and then stick to fin to keep it(y)
Indeed I saw the mpmd video about those twins. Pretty fueling tbh. Hoping I won’t need dut but excited to see more data on topical dut and topical anti androgens since i might not be able to tolerate ru
 
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near impossible to have that hair when old. it's really super rare
You can have close hair to that if you actually get on finasteride and prevent it early. Most people don't and most men cope with stress or "shedding" you don't notice hair loss until you've lost 50% of your follicles
 
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Indeed I saw the mpmd video about those twins. Pretty fueling tbh. Hoping I won’t need dut but excited to see more data on topical dut and topical anti androgens since i might not be able to tolerate ru
Just be thankful you notice it before you got to NW3, NW1.5 is still good looking and NW2 looks mature. But NW3 :feelswhy:
 
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You can have close hair to that if you actually get on finasteride and prevent it early. Most people don't and most men cope with stress or "shedding" you don't notice hair loss until you've lost 50% of your follicles
yeah i've lost %50 of my hair already. however, do you really think using fin more than 10~20 years sounds reasonable ?
 
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Just be thankful you notice it before you got to NW3, NW1.5 is still good looking and NW2 looks mature. But NW3 :feelswhy:
Indeed but receded hairline and temples don’t suit me tbh. Forces me to rock longer, unprofessional, messy hair. Fortunate that I found all this stuff young indeed.
You can have close hair to that if you actually get on finasteride and prevent it early. Most people don't and most men cope with stress or "shedding" you don't notice hair loss until you've lost 50% of your follicles
Really hope I haven’t lost 50 fucking percent but at least I’m a responder to minox
 
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yeah i've lost %50 of my hair already. however, do you really think using fin more than 10~20 years sounds reasonable ?
It sounds reasonable as DHT is quite literally useless besides puberty to develop dick size and facial hair. Nothing else rlly.
Indeed but receded hairline and temples don’t suit me tbh. Forces me to rock longer, unprofessional, messy hair. Fortunate that I found all this stuff young indeed.

Really hope I haven’t lost 50 fucking percent but at least I’m a responder to minox
It's not ideal but far from bad per say

Issue with minox is that it's temporary but if you respond thats solid i guess. You may see some regrowth way way later down the line but regrowth is rare. Gaining land back is the hardest shit but regardless man you caught it at least thats more than what can be said and you went thru with finasteride unlike all the fear mongered cucks
 
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It sounds reasonable as DHT is quite literally useless besides puberty to develop dick size and facial hair. Nothing else rlly.

It's not ideal but far from bad per say

Issue with minox is that it's temporary but if you respond thats solid i guess. You may see some regrowth way way later down the line but regrowth is rare. Gaining land back is the hardest shit but regardless man you caught it at least thats more than what can be said and you went thru with finasteride unlike all the fear mongered cucks
Indeed I’m worse off rn than average at my age but in the long run I should do well. And maybe 2k on a ht and fin will be enough to stay nw0 til 50. Time will tell.
 
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Indeed I’m worse off rn than average at my age but in the long run I should do well. And maybe 2k on a ht and fin will be enough to stay nw0 til 50. Time will tell.
You are playing the long con, all the subhumans over confident in their hair genes and just coping with "shedding and stress" but they'll be tanking SMV in their 30's while ur still nw 1.5-2
 
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You are playing the long con, all the subhumans over confident in their hair genes and just coping with "shedding and stress" but they'll be tanking SMV in their 30's while ur still nw 1.5-2
I wonder what percent of our increasingly looks pilled generation will just shave it off bro. I suspect my older brother will at some point in the next 5 years
 
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I wonder what percent of our increasingly looks pilled generation will just shave it off bro. I suspect my older brother will at some point in the next 5 years
Yeah, I can't fall for that meme after this site and seeing how crushing balding is. People IMO are getting increasingly bluepilled though but if ur blackpilled you'd know how crucial hair is for looks.

Black pill is never going mainstream sadly because of how mentally crushing it is on men. Bluepilled is a better cope
 
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Fat pads are life. Once they drop from the under eye area to the nasolabials, its over. You need face lift, pdo threads and fat grafting.

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are u kidding me ? tret make your skin so much thinner. tanning will fuck your skin up.
Utter cope. You can't spot reduce fat. Where did this myth come from?
 
Yeah, I can't fall for that meme after this site and seeing how crushing balding is. People IMO are getting increasingly bluepilled though but if ur blackpilled you'd know how crucial hair is for looks.

Black pill is never going mainstream sadly because of how mentally crushing it is on men. Bluepilled is a better cope
What makes you say people are getting more bluepilled?
 
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What makes you say people are getting more bluepilled?
It's easier to handle in a sense, it's not mentally crushing or destroys you mentally like black pill.

Blackpill just exposes our actual behaviour as animals, bluepill is a good cope as people don't mentally destroy themselves to see the reality. I have had very narcy tendencies from getting into this forum.

I personally see the blackpill as a change of focus to my looks instead of muh personality but most people become very depressed and almost neurotic from this shit from what I've seen.
 
It's easier to handle in a sense, it's not mentally crushing or destroys you mentally like black pill.

Blackpill just exposes our actual behaviour as animals, bluepill is a good cope as people don't mentally destroy themselves to see the reality. I have had very narcy tendencies from getting into this forum.

I personally see the blackpill as a change of focus to my looks instead of muh personality but most people become very depressed and almost neurotic from this shit from what I've seen.
I don’t see what you’re seeing. I understand why bluepill appeals to people but with an ever growing pile of evidence against it and seemingly more and more people at least waking up to red pill, what evidence is there for the claim that people are getting more bluepilled?
 
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I don’t see what you’re seeing. I understand why bluepill appeals to people but with an ever growing pile of evidence against it and seemingly more and more people at least waking up to red pill, what evidence is there for the claim that people are getting more bluepilled?
People go from red pill to blackpill then back to bluepill. I guess temporarily blackpilled may be a better explanation but most people are too mentally weak for that. In the end most people end up going back to bluepill as the blackpill takes away any true meaning from your actions and you get to see the actual animalistic mannerisms we have.

As an example I legit analyze social situations when I see a good looking guy in my school does something, and then replay it back assuming he was ugly. Idk if I'll ever feel "good" Once I lean out because I will realize that all I had to do was fix looks and people just magically treated me better.
 
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People go from red pill to blackpill then back to bluepill. I guess temporarily blackpilled may be a better explanation but most people are too mentally weak for that. In the end most people end up going back to bluepill as the blackpill takes away any true meaning from your actions and you get to see the actual animalistic mannerisms we have.

As an example I legit analyze social situations when I see a good looking guy in my school does something, and then replay it back assuming he was ugly. Idk if I'll ever feel "good" Once I lean out because I will realize that all I had to do was fix looks and people just magically treated me better.
I can’t relate to the notion that meaning requires naivety. We get one life, and I want to play to win. This doesn’t require comfortable delusion. In fact I’m better off without it. But to each their own.
 
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retin a, red light, micro needling should do it.
 
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that bitch spiral keep hiding that girl. we need a simp material
Yeah she skinny cute ngl. Name is Zootedgina based on that stamp but I can’t find her rn.
Lots of cute girls to coom to anyway
 
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