Final Thread Before HARDMAXXING (GTFIH) Let me know your Thoughts!

[nathan_Bs123]

For those who have been following my journey I believe I've accumulated enough info to begin hardmaxxing. Detailed below will be my concise but complete breakdown of what procedures I'm getting in my 2 stage plan.

Base I'm working with BELOW: I will include morphs later in this post made by @vermicel (thank you g)

Stage 1
Procedures: in Turkey

Rhinoplasty (Highest ROI)
- alar reduction, dorsal hump augmentation, columella reduction, trip rotation

Infraorbital implants

- fixing negative orbital vector + same stage fat grafting ~30-50 fill
--------->with consult will decide between silicon or custom (leaning silicon due to no asymmetry in cbct)

Jaw angle implants
small off the shelf help correct inwards gonions as indicated by cbct
this will fix my lack of angularity from the front and define my ramus from the side

MORPHS That show this stage (ignore malar and hairline augmentation)

Stage 2
Procedures: in Thailand
This will be the high yield stage and probably make the biggest difference:

Canthopexy (second highest ROI):
- Aim for Neutral CT --> PCT (2 --> 5 degrees)
- fix sceleral show
- increase PFL and decrease PFH for compact eye shape

Fat grafting:
- periorbital region small fill supra + 200% overfill infra
- nasolabial folds to stop the 'melting appearence in region' <-- cbct confirms not skeletal and not drooping of fat pad rather a combination of lower-set fatpad placement and uneven fat distribution between malar fat pad and nasolabial groove @lurking truecel
----> done with PRP and pro angiogenesis agents like, tb-500, bpc157 and ghkcu (probably as GLOW blend) to retain graft survival


Submental + chin Lipo and buccal fat removal:
- high fat under chin even at low bodyfat% + fat on chin giving the round appearance as cbct confirms not a bone issue
- buccal fat for compensation due to gonial implant flaring and for increased hollowing one pad 2-4CC will need to evaluate after stage 1


BONUS:
Zygoma Filler
- purely for anterior projection, with slight lateral projection
Fat grafting
- to mentolabial and mouth corners
---> reason this is in bonus is as you increase fatgrafting areas you risk resorption in others due to limited angio-genosis to keep fat alive. And for that reason would be lower yield to me compared to perioribtal and nasolabial region


Conclusion: This plan is something I'm about to finalize and if you have any thoughts of what you want to tell me or any help or advice you can give I would much appreciate it. I plan to document after stage 1 and 2 as a follow up to this thread.


Thanks to and follow up for:
@vermicel @lurking truecel @yussimania @midfacedeficient @looks_minimizing

 

[midfacedeficient]

very thorough, looks like a completely realistic morph too

 

[nathan_Bs123]

very thorough, looks like a completely realistic morph too

I believe so too. It doesn't take account soft tissue changes that make up the bulk of my transformation which makes me incredibly excited for what's possible

 

[nathan_Bs123]

bump

 

[koops]

Seems good, which surgeon do you plan to go with for the implants and rhino? I remember you talking about Eppley for the infra implants, what turned you off of him?

 

[nathan_Bs123]

Seems good, which surgeon do you plan to go with for the implants and rhino? I remember you talking about Eppley for the infra implants, what turned you off of him?

dm if you'd like to know. I'm a bit selfish but I don't want to increase the wait time to my surgeon lol

 

[Looksmarxer67]

Mirin brah
Good luck

 

[nathan_Bs123]

Mirin brah
Good luck

I appreicate it bro

 

[nathan_Bs123]

Bump

 

[nathan_Bs123]

Bump

 

[BronzeSpartan2]

Why no lower lid retraction repair?

 

[d99lotus]

I hope you realize the look of your nose is caused from your recessed maxilla, getting lf1 first would be higher iq, you can address the remaining issues you have after it with a rhino

 

[Assymetry]

Seems good, which surgeon do you plan to go with for the implants and rhino? I remember you talking about Eppley for the infra implants, what turned you off of him?

eppley is giga expensive

 

[nathan_Bs123]

Why no lower lid retraction repair?

Good point I will add that, usually routine with canthopexy

 

[nathan_Bs123]

I hope you realize the look of your nose is caused from your recessed maxilla, getting lf1 first would be higher iq, you can address the remaining issues you have after it with a rhino

Greys learn one thing and think it applies universally

 

[nathan_Bs123]

eppley is giga expensive

Hella true and for what I’m getting it isn’t necessarily

 

[d99lotus]

Greys learn one thing and think it applies universally

you can tell me why it doesnt apply here then

 

[beachflow83]

Does bpc actually help in fat graft survival, been researching about this since im getting one in october for acne scars but i didnt find actual information supporting this idea, only that ghk maybe helps but yea

 

[nathan_Bs123]

you can tell me why it doesnt apply here then

Maxilla isn’t recessed, confirmed by cbct not a lf1 candidate. Cbct also confirms soft tissue excess. You had a good thought but doesn’t apply universally

 

[nathan_Bs123]

Does bpc actually help in fat graft survival, been researching about this since im getting one in october for acne scars but i didnt find actual information supporting this idea, only that ghk maybe helps but yea

Theoretical MOA supports it, angiogenesis agents like Bpc should be able to increase retention and stabilize grafts. Absolutely doesn’t hurt to use and I would personally include this stack given limited studies on this peptide

 

[beachflow83]

Theoretical MOA supports it, angiogenesis agents like Bpc should be able to increase retention and stabilize grafts. Absolutely doesn’t hurt to use and I would personally include this stack given limited studies on this peptide

Worths a try i guess, i’m only on reta 2mg once a week but ghk + bpc worst case scenario does nothing so i guess worths a try. Getting nanofat grafting for rolling scars, surgeon will calculate with the fat survival ratio and somewhat overfill, but they can only do that till a certain amount might otherwise it would look bumpy.

 

[yussimania]

Jaw angles based off your skeletal Gonia is kinda dumb

 

[d99lotus]

Maxilla isn’t recessed, confirmed by cbct not a lf1 candidate. Cbct also confirms soft tissue excess. You had a good thought but doesn’t apply universally

Yeah I assumed it was a recession problem from your sunken under eyes along with your nose, my mistake.

 

[looks_minimizing]

nice to see your plan start to come to fruition, crazy ascension incoming, good luck bro

 

[nathan_Bs123]

Jaw angles based off your skeletal Gonia is kinda dumb

Can you clarify what you mean yussimania

 

[nathan_Bs123]

Yeah I assumed it was a recession problem from your sunken under eyes along with your nose, my mistake.

All good

 

[nathan_Bs123]

nice to see your plan start to come to fruition, crazy ascension incoming, good luck bro

Thank you bro not larping for years for perfect strategy

 

[nathan_Bs123]

Jaw angles based off your skeletal Gonia is kinda dumb

You’re meaning custom implants I’m assuming

 

[nathan_Bs123]

nice to see your plan start to come to fruition, crazy ascension incoming, good luck bro

You got to let me know where you’re at rn

 

[nathan_Bs123]

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[nathan_Bs123]

Bump

 

[nathan_Bs123]

Worths a try i guess, i’m only on reta 2mg once a week but ghk + bpc worst case scenario does nothing so i guess worths a try. Getting nanofat grafting for rolling scars, surgeon will calculate with the fat survival ratio and somewhat overfill, but they can only do that till a certain amount might otherwise it would look bumpy.

Ultimately surgeon will be conservative but under eye fat survival is incredibly weak so unlikely to overfill too much in my case

 

[nathan_Bs123]

B

 

[Jgns]

For those who have been following my journey I believe I've accumulated enough info to begin hardmaxxing. Detailed below will be my concise but complete breakdown of what procedures I'm getting in my 2 stage plan.

Base I'm working with BELOW: I will include morphs later in this post made by @vermicel (thank you g)

View attachment 5277110View attachment 5277111

Stage 1
Procedures: in Turkey

Rhinoplasty (Highest ROI)
- alar reduction, dorsal hump augmentation, columella reduction, trip rotation

Infraorbital implants

- fixing negative orbital vector + same stage fat grafting ~30-50 fill
--------->with consult will decide between silicon or custom (leaning silicon due to no asymmetry in cbct)

Jaw angle implants
small off the shelf help correct inwards gonions as indicated by cbct
this will fix my lack of angularity from the front and define my ramus from the side View attachment 5277114

MORPHS That show this stage (ignore malar and hairline augmentation)

View attachment 5277128View attachment 5277130
Stage 2
Procedures: in Thailand
This will be the high yield stage and probably make the biggest difference:

Canthopexy (second highest ROI):
- Aim for Neutral CT --> PCT (2 --> 5 degrees)
- fix sceleral show
- increase PFL and decrease PFH for compact eye shape

Fat grafting:
- periorbital region small fill supra + 200% overfill infra
- nasolabial folds to stop the 'melting appearence in region' <-- cbct confirms not skeletal and not drooping of fat pad rather a combination of lower-set fatpad placement and uneven fat distribution between malar fat pad and nasolabial groove @lurking truecel
----> done with PRP and pro angiogenesis agents like, tb-500, bpc157 and ghkcu (probably as GLOW blend) to retain graft survival


Submental + chin Lipo and buccal fat removal:
- high fat under chin even at low bodyfat% + fat on chin giving the round appearance as cbct confirms not a bone issue
- buccal fat for compensation due to gonial implant flaring and for increased hollowing one pad 2-4CC will need to evaluate after stage 1


BONUS:
Zygoma Filler
- purely for anterior projection, with slight lateral projection
Fat grafting
- to mentolabial and mouth corners
---> reason this is in bonus is as you increase fatgrafting areas you risk resorption in others due to limited angio-genosis to keep fat alive. And for that reason would be lower yield to me compared to perioribtal and nasolabial region


Conclusion: This plan is something I'm about to finalize and if you have any thoughts of what you want to tell me or any help or advice you can give I would much appreciate it. I plan to document after stage 1 and 2 as a follow up to this thread.


Thanks to and follow up for:
@vermicel @lurking truecel @yussimania @midfacedeficient @looks_minimizing

Mirin asf dude whenre u gn get this all done, and how much do u expect it all to be. U got some wet ass lips over there tho gangatronsrex

 

[nathan_Bs123]

Mirin asf dude whenre u gn get this all done, and how much do u expect it all to be. U got some wet ass lips over there tho gangatronsrex

Thank you bro I say the locations dm me if you want more info and yeah the accutane is kicking my ass

 

[sabafill]

For those who have been following my journey I believe I've accumulated enough info to begin hardmaxxing. Detailed below will be my concise but complete breakdown of what procedures I'm getting in my 2 stage plan.

Base I'm working with BELOW: I will include morphs later in this post made by @vermicel (thank you g)

View attachment 5277110View attachment 5277111

Stage 1
Procedures: in Turkey

Rhinoplasty (Highest ROI)
- alar reduction, dorsal hump augmentation, columella reduction, trip rotation

Infraorbital implants

- fixing negative orbital vector + same stage fat grafting ~30-50 fill
--------->with consult will decide between silicon or custom (leaning silicon due to no asymmetry in cbct)

Jaw angle implants
small off the shelf help correct inwards gonions as indicated by cbct
this will fix my lack of angularity from the front and define my ramus from the side View attachment 5277114

MORPHS That show this stage (ignore malar and hairline augmentation)

View attachment 5277128View attachment 5277130
Stage 2
Procedures: in Thailand
This will be the high yield stage and probably make the biggest difference:

Canthopexy (second highest ROI):
- Aim for Neutral CT --> PCT (2 --> 5 degrees)
- fix sceleral show
- increase PFL and decrease PFH for compact eye shape

Fat grafting:
- periorbital region small fill supra + 200% overfill infra
- nasolabial folds to stop the 'melting appearence in region' <-- cbct confirms not skeletal and not drooping of fat pad rather a combination of lower-set fatpad placement and uneven fat distribution between malar fat pad and nasolabial groove @lurking truecel
----> done with PRP and pro angiogenesis agents like, tb-500, bpc157 and ghkcu (probably as GLOW blend) to retain graft survival


Submental + chin Lipo and buccal fat removal:
- high fat under chin even at low bodyfat% + fat on chin giving the round appearance as cbct confirms not a bone issue
- buccal fat for compensation due to gonial implant flaring and for increased hollowing one pad 2-4CC will need to evaluate after stage 1


BONUS:
Zygoma Filler
- purely for anterior projection, with slight lateral projection
Fat grafting
- to mentolabial and mouth corners
---> reason this is in bonus is as you increase fatgrafting areas you risk resorption in others due to limited angio-genosis to keep fat alive. And for that reason would be lower yield to me compared to perioribtal and nasolabial region


Conclusion: This plan is something I'm about to finalize and if you have any thoughts of what you want to tell me or any help or advice you can give I would much appreciate it. I plan to document after stage 1 and 2 as a follow up to this thread.


Thanks to and follow up for:
@vermicel @lurking truecel @yussimania @midfacedeficient @looks_minimizing

Very practical & alot better than a lot of these cope plans, is this inspired by facemetrics?

Excellent morph but the canthopexy is a bit generous

 

[nathan_Bs123]

Very practical & alot better than a lot of these cope plans, is this inspired by facemetrics?

Excellent morph but the canthopexy is a bit generous

we have similiar flaws, 2-5 is quite reasonable given vertical laxity morph might be exagerated

 

[nathan_Bs123]

B

 

[nathan_Bs123]

b

 

[nathan_Bs123]

b

 

[nathan_Bs123]

b