Finasteride storys scare me more than nightmares

[chadhamed]

 

[averagenormie]

What stories?

 

[iblamemandible7]

All I know is I would rope if I had to go bald for life, sexual side effects are nothing to me when I imagine how my life would be as a bald, recessed, sub5 manlet

I would honestly castrate myself if It came to that, I care more about my aesthetic legacy and impression to others than my personal physical pleasure, better to be wanted than wanting

 

[chadhamed]

What stories?

Stories about losing erections . Suicidal mindset. Man boobs

 

[averagenormie]

Stories about losing erections . Suicidal mindset. Man boobs

Losing erections: low testosterone
Sucidal mindset: high e2
Man boobs: high e2+prolactin
Solution: keep taking the drugs, stop being fat fuck, get in shape and stop beating your meat

 

[Swarthy Knight]

They're more than likely exaggerations. But nowadays with HTs and H Systems I don't see the need for Fin unless you're very early into norwooding (and even then it's prolly better to take Minox instead)

 

[chadhamed]

Losing erections: low testosterone
Sucidal mindset: high e2
Man boobs: high e2+prolactin
Solution: keep taking the drugs, stop being fat fuck, get in shape and stop beating your meat

Yea but hair is law bru

 

[averagenormie]

They're more than likely exaggerations. But nowadays with HTs and H Systems I don't see the need for Fin unless you're very early into norwooding (and even then it's prolly better to take Minox instead)

Minoxidil results will diminish with discontinuation unless you're using it for a year where the follicles stabilize into terminal hairs

 

[averagenormie]

Yea but hair is law bru

I know that's why I'm telling you to hop on dut 40mg at once then next month start 0.5ng daily

 

[iblamemandible7]

Losing erections: low testosterone
Sucidal mindset: high e2
Man boobs: high e2+prolactin
Solution: keep taking the drugs, stop being fat fuck, get in shape and stop beating your meat

Plenty of lean people still get the high e2 sides, its because youre throwing off your androgens to estrogens ratio, T is more anabolic and less androgenic than dht, some can handle the shift because of their aromatization genetics, hormone levels, receptor sensitivity, etc, and some cant

I have heard of mixing arimidex with fin tho, theoretically could fix it, its called "the discombobulater"

 

[averagenormie]

Plenty of lean people still get the high e2 sides, its because youre throwing off your androgens to estrogens ratio, T is more anabolic and less androgenic, some can handle it because of their aromatization genetics, hormone levels, receptor sensitivity, etc, and some cant

I have heard of mixing arimidex with fin tho, theoretically could fix it, its called "the discombobulator"

"DHT is required for masculinization of the urogenital sinus and the genital tubercle in fetal life and possibly for mediating its effects on the prostate and hair follicle (10) but is not obligatory for mediating testosterone’s effects on the skeletal muscle, bone, or erythropoiesis (11). DHT is also more potent than testosterone in its nongenomic effects on vascular smooth muscle (12). "

Relation of Testosterone, Dihydrotestosterone, and Estradiol With Changes in Outcomes Measures in the Testosterone Trials - PMC

Many effects of testosterone are mediated through dihydrotestosterone (DHT) and estradiol. To determine the relative contributions of each hormone to the observed effects of testosterone treatment in older men with hypogonadism. Using data from the ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[iblamemandible7]

"DHT is required for masculinization of the urogenital sinus and the genital tubercle in fetal life and possibly for mediating its effects on the prostate and hair follicle (10) but is not obligatory for mediating testosterone’s effects on the skeletal muscle, bone, or erythropoiesis (11). DHT is also more potent than testosterone in its nongenomic effects on vascular smooth muscle (12). "

Relation of Testosterone, Dihydrotestosterone, and Estradiol With Changes in Outcomes Measures in the Testosterone Trials - PMC

Many effects of testosterone are mediated through dihydrotestosterone (DHT) and estradiol. To determine the relative contributions of each hormone to the observed effects of testosterone treatment in older men with hypogonadism. Using data from the ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

What does that prove

 

[averagenormie]

What does that prove

Dht is not needed only for prostate and body/facial hair, what you're saying is testosterone effects

 

[iblamemandible7]

Dht is not needed only for prostate and body/facial hair, what you're saying is testosterone effects

Im just talking about the hormone balance, if the amount of estrogens in your body overpower the amount of androgens, you will get these side effects, everyone has different hormone genetics so some people still have sufficient androgen dominance with test only in their system, some require dht to maintain androgen dominance, unless you take an AI to lower estrogen

 

[Iraniancel]

Just go ER if youre anything beyond NW 0 tbh

 

[averagenormie]

Im just talking about the hormone balance, if the amount of estrogens in your body overpower the amount of androgens, you will get these side effects, everyone has different hormone genetics so some people still have sufficient androgen dominance with test only in their system, some require dht to maintain androgen dominance, unless you take an AI to lower estrogen

Dht as an androgen to balance estrogen ratio is cope, you will just end up as neckbearded fatty baldcel with low test and non existent erections, what matters is T:E2 ratio not dht/e2

 

[averagenormie]

Just go ER if youre anything beyond NW 0 tbh

Or get a hair system

 

[optimisticzoomer]

Just go ER if youre anything beyond NW 0 tbh

NW0 doesn't exist. NW1 is no loss

 

[optimisticzoomer]

Stories about losing erections . Suicidal mindset. Man boobs

@piec

 

[Iraniancel]

NW0 doesn't exist. NW1 is no loss

mah bad