First Cycle @ 16 - Thoughts?

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Background:

I am 16 5’11 65kg. Previously ran 10 IU HGH for a month, and have been on an ai for 6 months. Gym and height gains were excellent. I got off the ai as I got negative side effects. I probably crashed that shit.



This cycle focuses on:

•Maxing DHT specifically for bone growth

•Keeping estrogen in the normal range (20–40 pg/mL)

•Height and muscle gains

• staying appealing

What Compounds?

Androgens / Anabolics

• Testosterone – 100 mg/week

• Mast – 200 mg/week

• EQ – 500 mg/week

• Tren – 20 mg/week

Height

• HGH – 10 IU/day

• Estradiol pill – 0.25 mg EOD

Support

• Accutane – 60 mg/day

• Cialis – 20 for gym pump and sex

• Eplerenone – 50 mg if bloat is bad

• Retatrutide – 0.5mg/week

PCT

• HCG – 400 IU/week

• Nolvadex – 20 mg/day

Contingency

• Dutasteride

• Aromasin

• Topical finasteride + minoxidil

Cycle Schedule

Weeks 1–5

• Testosterone – 100 mg/week

• HGH – 10 IU/day

• Accutane – 60 mg/day

Weeks 5–7

• Testosterone – 100 mg/week

• Mast – 200 mg/week

• EQ – 500 mg/week

• HCG – 800 IU/week

• HGH – 10 IU/day

• Accutane – 60 mg/day

• Estradiol pill – 0.25 mg EOD

• Retatrutide – 0.5 mg/week

Weeks 7–11

• Testosterone – 100 mg/week

• Mast – 200 mg/week

• EQ – 500 mg/week

• HCG – 400 IU/week

• HGH – 10 IU/day

• Accutane – 60 mg/day

• Estradiol pill – 0.25 mg EOD

• Retatrutide – 0.5 mg/week

Weeks 11–16

• Testosterone – 100 mg/week

• Mast – 200 mg/week

• EQ – 500 mg/week

• HCG – 400 IU/week

• Tren – 20 mg/week

• Accutane – 60 mg/day

• Estradiol pill – 0.25 mg EOD

Weeks 16–20

• Testosterone – 100 mg/week

• Mast – 200 mg/week

• EQ – 500 mg/week

• HCG – 400 IU/week

• Accutane – 10 mg/day

• Estradiol pill – 0.25 mg EOD

Weeks 20–32

• Testosterone – 100 mg/week

• HCG – 400 IU/week

• Tren – 20 mg/week

• Accutane – 10 mg/day

• Estradiol pill – 0.25 mg EOD (optional)

Weeks 32–34 (PCT)

• HCG – 400 IU/week

• Accutane – 10 mg/day

Weeks 34–40 (PCT)

• Nolvadex – 20 mg/day

• Accutane – 10 mg/day

Notes

Timing: ideally I would have skipped weeks 1-5 if all compounds were arriving on time. They aren’t, and I’m impatient so HGH and testosterone will run for the first 5 weeks without their support compounds.

Testosterone: Yes, this is a low dose, I don’t want significant aromatization. AI’s do NOT prevent growth plate closure whilst on testosterone.

Estradiol pill: This is NOT an aromatase inhibitor. Estrodiol is crucial for bone strength, formation, brain development and IGF. EQ + Mast would lower estrogen so I am maintaining healthy level. Optional during weeks 20-32 if low-E2 symptoms appear

Retatrutide: 0.5 mg/week only for insulin sensitivity during HGH. Optional continuation after HGH if I’m a fatass. Accutane: Already been on it for 3 months. Doing a full cycle of 10,000 mg, 3000 mg already completed. Stop after total dose is reached. Microsdose afterward for maintenance.

Tren: If I notice I’m becoming a retard roidcell, I will either just get off or experiment with nootropics.


Questions:

Is nolvadex the best option for PCT? would enclo or clomid be better in this case?



Should I be adding RFSH aswell as my HCG? How much?



Should I be adding liver support supplements? Which ones?



Other supplements I may need for my wellbeing?



I’ll be posting videos about my cycle on TikTok Lwrd09.
 
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i would suggest enclo
you can use liver supporting supplements like NAC and TUDCA
and add RU85541 for hairloss prevention, which will bind to hair follicles and stop DHT from breaking down your hair
 
Where the hair support at.
 
hgh 13-15ui would be better for bone growth beyond your natural hgh producement
 

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so 13iu for 55 days would be better than 10iu 72 days?
 
i would suggest enclo
you can use liver supporting supplements like NAC and TUDCA
and add RU85541 for hairloss prevention, which will bind to hair follicles and stop DHT from breaking down your hair
Where can one find RU85541?
 
gonna feel like fucking shit coming off this horrendous cycle better to just trt cruise for life tbh, you would get better results from 300 test 300 tren for 8-12 weeks tbh then this eq is a horrible anabolic ran it at 600 slow gains vascularity is crazy i’ll give it that. If your goal is slow lean tissue with bone growth do 300 test 150 tren 200 eq year round tbh, also no hair support i would also not run multiple hairline antagonists at this age since u cant use fina or duta, pick one hair line raping compound and that’s it mast tren test will rip you to norwood 12
 
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Do not do tren. That shit is horrible and a looksmin
 
gonna feel like fucking shit coming off this horrendous cycle better to just trt cruise for life tbh, you would get better results from 300 test 300 tren for 8-12 weeks tbh then this eq is a horrible anabolic ran it at 600 slow gains vascularity is crazy i’ll give it that. If your goal is slow lean tissue with bone growth do 300 test 150 tren 200 eq year round tbh, also no hair support i would also not run multiple hairline antagonists at this age since u cant use fina or duta, pick one hair line raping compound and that’s it mast tren test will rip you to norwood 12
Let’s just prematurely close my growth plates and become a retard. Cheers. Thinking I might just wear a wig if things go bad.
 
Let’s just prematurely close my growth plates and become a retard. Cheers. Thinking I might just wear a wig if things go bad.
nigga i’m running 500 test and went from 6”1 to 6”3 on this 30 week cycle keep coping height is genetic plates still open to enjoy wearing a wig cuz ur bald
 

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