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need some opinions on my first cycle
stats:
23yo
6’0ft
185 (no longer lift for size, big runner and hiker due to career demands and I honestly prefer it bc of the facial leanness.)
been natty lifter since 15-16, took time off due to covid and around 2020-2021 when i was 18 found out about Zyzz and went all in on natty lifting.
naturally obtained this physique but it was extremely time consuming. things like: calorie consumption, countless hours of research on optimal result driven training, countless hours spent at the gym, plenty of nights i didn’t go out with buddies to go drinking to get proper sleep, the list goes on and on. at the end of the day it’s undeniable that natty lifters must be absolutely obsessed to get a fraction of the results, had i been on a low trt dose such as 100-200mg of test I would’ve reached my goal in a fraction of the time. at the time, i was extremely recessed facially and began mewing (proper tongue posture and nasal breathing) around 17. got quite noticeable results with a defined jawline and decent zygos prominence (nowhere near where i wanted to be), which led to me getting many more women and much more male respect.
here’s a photo of my natty physique around age 21:
As you can tell, very low T build even when optimized to my fullest potential on just about everything.
Again, very time consuming just to end up looking like I lift weights every once in a while. Got plenty of slays (somewhere in the range of 30+) and got caught up in the party lifestyle and T levels absolutely tanked.
I love the idea of having a consistently high level of T, no matter what lifestyle I lead. Whether I choose to sleep 4 hours or choose to go out drinking with buddies, my T will remain on the high end and not affect my bone density, muscle mass, etc.
Long story short: I will be starting my first cycle when my Test E arrives.
My plan:
-250mg of Test-E (inb4 roidcels come at me telling me to start at 500mg because it’ll shut my natty production off anyways, stfu i could care less)
-AI on hand just in case but i am not expecting very many sides from this low of a dose.
Considering fin or duta however, i have extremely thick hair. Father has a full head of luscious hair at 50. Grandfather has almost a full head of hair around 75.
I just don’t want to take any chances as I am solely doing this for looksmaxxing benefit and recovery time. I want more bone density in my face (been bone smashing for about a year and have 100% noticed gains in cheekbone area and chin area).
I’ve heard lots of good things about bone density even after puberty and facial prominence.
Any advice would be extremely appreciated.
Thanks in advance
-firemaxxer
stats:
23yo
6’0ft
185 (no longer lift for size, big runner and hiker due to career demands and I honestly prefer it bc of the facial leanness.)
been natty lifter since 15-16, took time off due to covid and around 2020-2021 when i was 18 found out about Zyzz and went all in on natty lifting.
naturally obtained this physique but it was extremely time consuming. things like: calorie consumption, countless hours of research on optimal result driven training, countless hours spent at the gym, plenty of nights i didn’t go out with buddies to go drinking to get proper sleep, the list goes on and on. at the end of the day it’s undeniable that natty lifters must be absolutely obsessed to get a fraction of the results, had i been on a low trt dose such as 100-200mg of test I would’ve reached my goal in a fraction of the time. at the time, i was extremely recessed facially and began mewing (proper tongue posture and nasal breathing) around 17. got quite noticeable results with a defined jawline and decent zygos prominence (nowhere near where i wanted to be), which led to me getting many more women and much more male respect.
here’s a photo of my natty physique around age 21:
As you can tell, very low T build even when optimized to my fullest potential on just about everything.
Again, very time consuming just to end up looking like I lift weights every once in a while. Got plenty of slays (somewhere in the range of 30+) and got caught up in the party lifestyle and T levels absolutely tanked.
I love the idea of having a consistently high level of T, no matter what lifestyle I lead. Whether I choose to sleep 4 hours or choose to go out drinking with buddies, my T will remain on the high end and not affect my bone density, muscle mass, etc.
Long story short: I will be starting my first cycle when my Test E arrives.
My plan:
-250mg of Test-E (inb4 roidcels come at me telling me to start at 500mg because it’ll shut my natty production off anyways, stfu i could care less)
-AI on hand just in case but i am not expecting very many sides from this low of a dose.
Considering fin or duta however, i have extremely thick hair. Father has a full head of luscious hair at 50. Grandfather has almost a full head of hair around 75.
I just don’t want to take any chances as I am solely doing this for looksmaxxing benefit and recovery time. I want more bone density in my face (been bone smashing for about a year and have 100% noticed gains in cheekbone area and chin area).
I’ve heard lots of good things about bone density even after puberty and facial prominence.
Any advice would be extremely appreciated.
Thanks in advance
-firemaxxer
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