First cycle, any advice?

[olo]

Was born with a slightly enlarged heart JFL

Nothing ever happens theory.
Feel free to give any advice on the stack.

 

[India lover 52]

you don't need all those meds for 300 test just have aromasin on hand and maybe some telimasartin and just use hcg on cruise at a low dose

 

[peterk1287]

Why such low dosages of hgh and test ?

 

[v8sandweights]

why only 4ius hgh, also are u saying ur not gonna take an ai tf ? how is that a consideration

 

[v8sandweights]

Why such low dosages of hgh and test ?

hes doing 600+ test a week hows that low

 

[olo]

why only 4ius hgh, also are u saying ur not gonna take an ai tf ? how is that a consideration

lik i said if i have e2 problems ill take one, obviously ill have aromasin on hand tho

 

[peterk1287]

hes doing 600+ test a week hows that low

Mb I read that wrong

 

[olo]

you don't need all those meds for 300 test just have aromasin on hand and maybe some telimasartin and just use hcg on cruise at a low dose

i was born with a slightly enlarged heart i need shit to protect me

 

[olo]

why only 4ius hgh, also are u saying ur not gonna take an ai tf ? how is that a consideration

will also move to 6iu gh after the first 4 week cycle

 

[v8sandweights]

lik i said if i have e2 problems ill take one, obviously ill have aromasin on hand tho

?? i dont see why youd wait for that to happen tbh. just take aromasin from the get go. theres basically no disadvantage to nuking ur e2 if ur also on hgh, imma do 2.5 letro and j nuke

 

[colee222]

Was born with a slightly enlarged heart JFL

Nothing ever happens theory.
Feel free to give any advice on the stack.

Propranolol is actully hella good. Pin test daily bro way more effective and efficient. And u don’t need ai for 300 test. Js do 10iu 500t but add more ancillaries

 

[sdram4]

i was born with a slightly enlarged heart i need shit to protect me

how enlarged compared to the normal human heart

 

[olo]

how enlarged compared to the normal human heart

not exactly 100% sure, doctors have never told me. they just have told me it's enlarged but it grows with my body and not just growing randomly, so it isn't a crazy problem yet. i was born with holes in it and had to get an ast and vst at birth, so i've always had at the least minimal cardiac issues.

 

[olo]

Propranolol is actully hella good. Pin test daily bro way more effective and efficient. And u don’t need ai for 300 test. Js do 10iu 500t but add more ancillaries

any suggestions on the ancillaries? and yea i'm only gonn take AI if e2 is fucked after first 4 week cycle of everything

 

[sdram4]

not exactly 100% sure, doctors have never told me. they just have told me it's enlarged but it grows with my body and not just growing randomly, so it isn't a crazy problem yet. i was born with holes in it and had to get an ast and vst at birth, so i've always had at the least minimal cardiac issues.

don't know man, i'd save the hgh for a later time when you get more data on your heart but 4 ius shouldn't be too bad.
try not to take any substances that elevate blood pressure too high or unreliably stress the heart (water)
be safe brah

 

[olo]

?? i dont see why youd wait for that to happen tbh. just take aromasin from the get go. theres basically no disadvantage to nuking ur e2 if ur also on hgh, imma do 2.5 letro and j nuke

from my research and getting advice from people who have been on trt for years, ai really isn't necessary unless i'm actually having problems with e2. i'm 16 and a half i don't wanna fuck everything up aswell.

 

[olo]

don't know man, i'd save the hgh for a later time when you get more data on your heart but 4 ius shouldn't be too bad.
try not to take any substances that elevate blood pressure too high or unreliably stress the heart (water)
be safe brah

i was running 6iu hgh for a month like 7 months ago and didn't have any problems, but also for only a month i obviously didn't see any crazy visible changes but rather just the recovery benefits.

plus i've seen lots of people saying they didn't see any heart enlargement problems after years of peds, but majority of studies do show it should in theory cause enlargement (excluding alredy knowing that hgh will cause organ enlargement but doesn't happen unless on crazy high dosages for long times), so i'll pray for the best.

 

[colee222]

any suggestions on the ancillaries? and yea i'm only gonn take AI if e2 is fucked after first 4 week cycle of everything

Look into Berberine, ezetimbe and overall like supplements like milk thistle and mag

 

[sdram4]

i was running 6iu hgh for a month like 7 months ago and didn't have any problems, but also for only a month i obviously didn't see any crazy visible changes but rather just the recovery benefits.

plus i've seen lots of people saying they didn't see any heart enlargement problems after years of peds, but majority of studies do show it should in theory cause enlargement (excluding alredy knowing that hgh will cause organ enlargement but doesn't happen unless on crazy high dosages for long times), so i'll pray for the best.

it only really happens in very harsh environments with heavy ped use, i'm sure you'll be fine

 

[India lover 52]

i was born with a slightly enlarged heart i need shit to protect me

telmisartan is better than propranolol for heart health on high test, prop is better for cns heavy compounds like tren and certain orals because test won't raise your resting heartrate that much but your blood pressure is more likely to be high, telmisartan also has insulin sensitivity and other benefits especially at 160mg+ daily

 

[olo]

Look into Berberine, ezetimbe and overall like supplements like milk thistle and mag

bet. if seeing good results from research, i will fs add them into the second cycle, but ive concluded that this cycle should be pretty good for my first one, and i dont plan on hopping off for a while so changes can definitely be made over time if anything causes problems.

im also trying to get bloodwork done with insurance costing it but my doctors are so petty and refuse to give me it at this point i may just threaten them saying ill blast rods and if i die it's their fault jfl

 

[olo]

telmisartan is better than propranolol for heart health on high test, prop is better for cns heavy compounds like tren and certain orals because test won't raise your resting heartrate that much but your blood pressure is more likely to be high, telmisartan also has insulin sensitivity and other benefits especially at 160mg+ daily

so you think i should drop the prop? i was advised from a dude who's been on trt for like 2 years to do it, but obviously i'm willing to take criticism and do research cause unfortunately i do still need to find sources and i was planning on starting the first cycle in like a month over summer

 

[v8sandweights]

from my research and getting advice from people who have been on trt for years, ai really isn't necessary unless i'm actually having problems with e2. i'm 16 and a half i don't wanna fuck everything up aswell.

if ur 16 then u are literally gonna fuse ur growth plates permanently with test lmfao especially at that dose

if ur okay with not growing anymore then thats fine tho i guess

 

[olo]

if ur 16 then u are literally gonna fuse ur growth plates permanently with test lmfao especially at that dose

if ur okay with not growing anymore then thats fine tho i guess

Welp my bone age is already probably around 18 since it was 17 when i got it checked like 6 months ago and im currently 5'9 probably not gonna grow more than an inch or two if im lucky. may aswell just pin and pray

 

[India lover 52]

so you think i should drop the prop? i was advised from a dude who's been on trt for like 2 years to do it, but obviously i'm willing to take criticism and do research cause unfortunately i do still need to find sources and i was planning on starting the first cycle in like a month over summer

it won't really do much but if your okay with the side effects for a marginal heart health boost then keep it, either way add telmisartan

 

[v8sandweights]

Welp my bone age is already probably around 18 since it was 17 when i got it checked like 6 months ago and im currently 5'9 probably not gonna grow more than an inch or two if im lucky. may aswell just pin and pray

ur bone age is probably 17 and ur growth plates are def open even if its just a little

at 5'9 i def reccomend u get on letrozole, regardless of anything else u take. Itll freeze ur plates keep them open for atleast 2 more years and it also expands them. could probably get to like 6ft if u do everything right, i wouldnt risk being stuck at 5'9 for life cause u wanted to yolo some stack.

if ur fine w ur height thats cool tho, dont expect to grow at all even with aromasin cause it wont stop oestrogen leakage. You may get a one inch spurt from the test if ur lucky tho before they fuse ur plates

 

[olo]

ur bone age is probably 17 and ur growth plates are def open even if its just a little

at 5'9 i def reccomend u get on letrozole, regardless of anything else u take. Itll freeze ur plates keep them open for atleast 2 more years and it also expands them. could probably get to like 6ft if u do everything right, i wouldnt risk being stuck at 5'9 for life cause u wanted to yolo some stack.

if ur fine w ur height thats cool tho, dont expect to grow at all even with aromasin cause it wont stop oestrogen leakage. You may get a one inch spurt from the test if ur lucky tho before they fuse ur plates

Heard letrozole has really bad sides though, and overall most prefer examestimene or however you spell the word. assuming your telling me to drop the aromasin and replace it with the letro though, how would i dose it?

 

[olo]

ur bone age is probably 17 and ur growth plates are def open even if its just a little

at 5'9 i def reccomend u get on letrozole, regardless of anything else u take. Itll freeze ur plates keep them open for atleast 2 more years and it also expands them. could probably get to like 6ft if u do everything right, i wouldnt risk being stuck at 5'9 for life cause u wanted to yolo some stack.

if ur fine w ur height thats cool tho, dont expect to grow at all even with aromasin cause it wont stop oestrogen leakage. You may get a one inch spurt from the test if ur lucky tho before they fuse ur plates

In addition- my dad was a late bloomer atleast facially, he unironically looked just like me but with short hair at the same exact age, but he's only 5'10 and my mom is like 5'5; my ancestory really only has like one person above 6' :

 

[v8sandweights]

Heard letrozole has really bad sides though, and overall most prefer examestimene or however you spell the word. assuming your telling me to drop the aromasin and replace it with the letro though, how would i dose it?

2.5mg letro a day, aromasin/exemestane is fine but no whear near as effective as stopping oestrogen leakage and at the dose of test youll be doing you will prematurely close your plates within like a month even if on aromasin.

Wouldnt reccomend anyone with open plates to get on test unless they are doing letro or they are fine not growing anymore