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Copercel told me test hgh and anavar is fine for a first cycle and my balls won't dissapear.

Is 250mg of Test E a week, 4 IU of hgh a day, and 35mg of anavar a day

Test 12 weeks, anavar 8, hgh 12.

A reasonable starting cycle? or should i tone some stuff down?

Currently looking at a total of $245 for the cycle, which I'm comfortable with paying.

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So test, hcg, last few weeks of test I move from test E to Test P, and then enclo for 2 weeks after the whole cycle?

20 weeks, first 16-18 of Test E (250mg) and hcg (how much?)

After 18 weeks, Test P (250mg?) and hcg

After the whole 20 weeks, enclo 2 weeks.

Is that correct?

Thanks so much for your help.
Test e 12 weeks
Test p 4 weeks
16 weeks total
Hcg either entire cycle or last 6 weeks
Test I’d do 400-500mg/ week first cycle
Hcg 500IU/ week
5 days after last pin of test P start enclo, 2 weeks should be enough


aromasin on hand incase of estrogen spikes (won’t be necessary but u can never be too sure, ur body will tell you anyway)
Dut if you wanna be acne free and hair safe

Ancillaries: GHK-cu, isotretinoin, cjc + ipa if...
12 weeks is fucking nothing
 
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Mark as solution then I will tell you
 
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why anavar, and imo do 500mg test and for 5-6 months

You can mark my answer as a solution by clicking the checkmark on the right ->
 
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Is 35mg of anavar a day not a tad excessive? I know anavar isn't particularly liver-toxic, but watch out.
I've never really looked into roiding that much, the rest seems good though.
 
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skip hgh and take cjc + ipa. Mark solution
 
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For muscle growth? cjc + ipa along with test im assuming?
I just meant for height. If you are taking HGH for muscle and stuff then that's alright
 
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I just meant for height. If you are taking HGH for muscle and stuff then that's alright
I'm 191cm I just need to fill out my frame, and if I just took hgh for like 12-16 weeks would that not be simpler and do slightly less? I'm cautious about testosterone since my dick is good and I don't want to lose anything related to it.
 
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Just do lifetime trt bhai
 
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I'm 191cm I just need to fill out my frame, and if I just took hgh for like 12-16 weeks would that not be simpler and do slightly less? I'm cautious about testosterone since my dick is good and I don't want to lose anything related to it.
If your just tryna get a lil muscle then 2-4 months of this is defo enough.

Mark solution btw
 
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Just do lifetime trt bhai
I just want a slight boost into a lean physique, then recover fully from the test suppression. I don't want to be pinning anything lifetime and quite frankly want to forget about everything to do with this once I turn 21 and get my surgeries.
 
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Convert testestrone to Dht

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Copercel is a certified retard.

500mg Test. 20 weeks. 2.5-7.5IU hGH. HCG. No PCT.
 
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500mg Test. 20 weeks. 2.5-7.5IU hGH.
What does the recovery look like for this post cycle? I haven't pinned anything yet and I'm getting my test checked soon but can safely assume its low. I'm not planning on pinning anything long term and I'm looking for 6-8kg of muscle added from this. Honestly quite afraid of taking test
 
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Ghk

What does the recovery look like for this post cycle? I haven't pinned anything yet and I'm getting my test checked soon but can safely assume its low. I'm not planning on pinning anything long term and I'm looking for 6-8kg of muscle added from this. Honestly quite afraid of taking test
It’s fine, u’ll feel everything clearly in ur body when something’s wrong. Human body is resistant and it’s just test and hgh tbh

Easy
Hcg while on
Taper off with test P
Enclo 2 weeks and you’re as good as new

Maybe dut if ur scared for hair
 
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I just checked, is there really any point in taking hgh to begin with? I'm 191cm and 78-80kg, I'm skinny and it doesn't seem to provide any benefits in gaining a lot of muscle
No
Hgh is ass imo
I said hcg
To keep ur balls alive and active
So pct is easy and you have no problems coming off
 
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No
Hgh is ass imo
I said hcg
To keep ur balls alive and active
So pct is easy and you have no problems coming off
So test, hcg, last few weeks of test I move from test E to Test P, and then enclo for 2 weeks after the whole cycle?

20 weeks, first 16-18 of Test E (250mg) and hcg (how much?)

After 18 weeks, Test P (250mg?) and hcg

After the whole 20 weeks, enclo 2 weeks.

Is that correct?

Thanks so much for your help.
 
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So test, hcg, last few weeks of test I move from test E to Test P, and then enclo for 2 weeks after the whole cycle?

20 weeks, first 16-18 of Test E (250mg) and hcg (how much?)

After 18 weeks, Test P (250mg?) and hcg

After the whole 20 weeks, enclo 2 weeks.

Is that correct?

Thanks so much for your help.
@PsychoDsk is your +1 reaction a yes?
 
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So test, hcg, last few weeks of test I move from test E to Test P, and then enclo for 2 weeks after the whole cycle?

20 weeks, first 16-18 of Test E (250mg) and hcg (how much?)

After 18 weeks, Test P (250mg?) and hcg

After the whole 20 weeks, enclo 2 weeks.

Is that correct?

Thanks so much for your help.
Test e 12 weeks
Test p 4 weeks
16 weeks total
Hcg either entire cycle or last 6 weeks
Test I’d do 400-500mg/ week first cycle
Hcg 500IU/ week
5 days after last pin of test P start enclo, 2 weeks should be enough


aromasin on hand incase of estrogen spikes (won’t be necessary but u can never be too sure, ur body will tell you anyway)
Dut if you wanna be acne free and hair safe

Ancillaries: GHK-cu, isotretinoin, cjc + ipa if u want some hgh activity but doesn’t really matter that much
 
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Test e 12 weeks
Test p 4 weeks
16 weeks total
Hcg either entire cycle or last 6 weeks
Test I’d do 400-500mg/ week first cycle
Hcg 500IU/ week
5 days after last pin of test P start enclo, 2 weeks should be enough


aromasin on hand incase of estrogen spikes (won’t be necessary but u can never be too sure, ur body will tell you anyway)
Dut if you wanna be acne free and hair safe

Ancillaries: GHK-cu, isotretinoin, cjc + ipa if u want some hgh activity but doesn’t really matter that much
Oh and don’t forget the cialis
For blood pressure and just overall mogger pumps
 
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Test e 12 weeks
Test p 4 weeks
16 weeks total
Hcg either entire cycle or last 6 weeks
Test I’d do 400-500mg/ week first cycle
Hcg 500IU/ week
5 days after last pin of test P start enclo, 2 weeks should be enough


aromasin on hand incase of estrogen spikes (won’t be necessary but u can never be too sure, ur body will tell you anyway)
Dut if you wanna be acne free and hair safe

Ancillaries: GHK-cu, isotretinoin, cjc + ipa if u want some hgh activity but doesn’t really matter that much
This is what I’m running aswell in a week
@aids helped me put it together, credits to him
Maybe he can tweak some stuff for you
 
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This is what I’m running aswell in a week
@aids helped me put it together, credits to him
Maybe he can tweak some stuff for you
aids is one of my favorite users on this forum, smart af

Thank you so much for your insight, I'm gonna put a list of things to buy together and probably start within the next few weeks! :love:
 
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Copercel told me test hgh and anavar is fine for a first cycle and my balls won't dissapear.

Is 250mg of Test E a week, 4 IU of hgh a day, and 35mg of anavar a day

Test 12 weeks, anavar 8, hgh 12.

A reasonable starting cycle? or should i tone some stuff down?

Currently looking at a total of $245 for the cycle, which I'm comfortable with paying.

Tagging high iq users
@Mess @Bryce @vincentzygo @Copercel @ybuyhgui
250 - 500 mg of testosterone c weekly 12 weeks 100 usd

3-4iu of hgh daily

Aromasin 0.25mg eod 24usd

25mg Oxandrolone 50 Usd

Igf 1 lr3 100 mg daily - 170 USD 100days

LGD 4033 50 usd

Peg mgf 200mg daily - 80 USD

T3 15mg T4 40mg 28 USD T3 30usd t4
Igf 1 des 150 USD

ghk cu bpc tb 500 kmv -190 usd

PCT
HCG 250mg -500mg - 46 USD 6 months weekly through out cycle

Clomid - 100mg

Nolvadex, 1 gram total. (a packet of 20mg x 50)
Abaloparatide 75mg - 30usd

Oral monoxidel 16usd

Dutasteride 19 USD

ru58841
25 mcg Teriparatide , 20 usd
@Orka
My basic cycle
 
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So test, hcg, last few weeks of test I move from test E to Test P, and then enclo for 2 weeks after the whole cycle?

20 weeks, first 16-18 of Test E (250mg) and hcg (how much?)

After 18 weeks, Test P (250mg?) and hcg

After the whole 20 weeks, enclo 2 weeks.

Is that correct?

Thanks so much for your help.
You can run Enclo as soon as the ester clears completely, which for propionate, is going to be around 4-5 days.
Keep in mind, HCG has a longer half life than test p, and it mimics LH. You want your pituitary to produce LH/FSH, so you will want to come off HCG prior to your final test p shot so that they both clear your system around a similar time.
The goal with HCG use is to mitigate/prevent testicular atrophy whilst on cycle so that you can recover endogenous testosterone quicker. Ideally you use it alongside the entire cycle but you should, at the very least, use it in the last few weeks (assuming a normal cycle duration).
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@aids @PsychoDsk why pct after one cycle?
 
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Fertility
Wait so he's supposed to pct and then start injecting again? Why not cruise and do another blast? He's not going to be permanently be shut down from one cycle
 
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Wait so he's supposed to pct and then start injecting again? Why not cruise and do another blast? He's not going to be permanently be shut down from one cycle
Because if he's not certain about the future, then he may as well play it safe and preserve his fertility.
 
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250mg of Test E a week
Only studies ever done show the same natty test shutdown from 250 test and 500. Run 500. And it takes a few weeks for the test e to even fully saturate, meaning you should run it for at least 20 weeks (preferably for life with periodic hcg cycling) to get a decent result from a muscle gain perspective. Pct will help how you feel post cycle, but it doesn’t actually help restore your natty test really, hence why hcg is superior to pct, although a 20 week 500 test cycle is virtually risk free
 
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250 - 500 mg of testosterone c weekly 12 weeks 100 usd

3-4iu of hgh daily

Aromasin 0.25mg eod 24usd

25mg Oxandrolone 50 Usd

Igf 1 lr3 100 mg daily - 170 USD 100days

LGD 4033 50 usd

Peg mgf 200mg daily - 80 USD

T3 15mg T4 40mg 28 USD T3 30usd t4
Igf 1 des 150 USD

ghk cu bpc tb 500 kmv -190 usd

PCT
HCG 250mg -500mg - 46 USD 6 months weekly through out cycle

Clomid - 100mg

Nolvadex, 1 gram total. (a packet of 20mg x 50)
Abaloparatide 75mg - 30usd

Oral monoxidel 16usd

Dutasteride 19 USD

ru58841
25 mcg Teriparatide , 20 usd
@Orka
My basic cycle
Where to buy hgh and which is the best in terms of price and quality?
 
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You should always use high dose deca for your first cycle
Minimally suppressive and gets out of your system quick
 
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