first cycle im planning at 15

just look at non aromatizing steroids, (look out for your hair tho), if you're prone to balding you NEED a hair stack the risk isnt worth it tbh, you can start simple with something like 2.5mg of minoxidil and ketaconazole shampoo, if you still see recession up the minoxidil to 5mg and add in ru58841, if YOU are still receding either lower your doses or look into finasteride/dutasteride (wouldnt take under 18 tbh)
 
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uhh what are your goals? Tbh test is great but 200-150 is just a trt type dosage so its not going to do alot. As you are broke drink topical minoxidil since it works the same in the body (kinda toxic but eh), If you're already on gh you could up the test to 250/300 and use ur AI you wont prematurely close your growth plates if you dose ur Ai correctly (especially on 250 JFL), this is a great overal stack since you can still make good gym progress and the hgh will aid in recovery and height growth. I personally would add low dose tren or mast, if you plan on using anavar i would just wait till you buy that since you can kick start your ''cycle'' with it (you need a test base for it) and i feel like alot of what you're doing is all over the place id just set a obvious cycle plan (250 test, 10 iu gh, 50 tren, 20 var,) smth like this and just start it accordingly
my goals are like bones and muscles ik its low for bones but like dimo and a bigger penies , i mean i have low test like 4.89 its gona like at least reach bearly unatrual levles right?

im gona take what ever minoxidill i find it i just need the source also my family doesnt have any bald genetics my dad is in hes 50s isnt bald hmm yes im just gona do that but first cycle gotta do low or idk and do u think 0.25mg arimdix is going to be good with my trt dossage?

hmm a low dose tren and mast? im gona save up fro them just gona buy the ai and test first and thanks brah
also also would my balls recover after i have hopped of? or i gotta be on trt forever?

and i meant this how long should i do this 250 trt for how long??
 
also if you're looking for muscle growth but dont want to prematurely close your growth plates you have to add in other compounds since most test cycles are 400-500 test but since we cant do that we can lower the test and add other compounds (which are also gonna be stronger for muscle gain), smth like 250 test and some tren or mast
im looking for bone growth and muscle yeah im gona run the test first then add some mast or tren also bu wouldnt those be risky?
and another question is 0.25mg arimdix everyday enough for the test?
 
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fuck who cares tbh better than being short
I mean iq is way more important then height. If your that desperate then sure but again don't overdose it unless you want your brain to be fucked forever
 
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just look at non aromatizing steroids, (look out for your hair tho), if you're prone to balding you NEED a hair stack the risk isnt worth it tbh, you can start simple with something like 2.5mg of minoxidil and ketaconazole shampoo, if you still see recession up the minoxidil to 5mg and add in ru58841, if YOU are still receding either lower your doses or look into finasteride/dutasteride (wouldnt take under 18 tbh)
hmm idk rn im jst gona run the ai and test ehh im gona look for the hair stack and where i could find it then im gona start the steroids non aromatizable also
did u mean by wouldnt take under 18 like the steroids or the other things? im 15
 
my goals are like bones and muscles ik its low for bones but like dimo and a bigger penies , i mean i have low test like 4.89 its gona like at least reach bearly unatrual levles right?

im gona take what ever minoxidill i find it i just need the source also my family doesnt have any bald genetics my dad is in hes 50s isnt bald hmm yes im just gona do that but first cycle gotta do low or idk and do u think 0.25mg arimdix is going to be good with my trt dossage?

hmm a low dose tren and mast? im gona save up fro them just gona buy the ai and test first and thanks brah
also also would my balls recover after i have hopped of? or i gotta be on trt forever?

and i meant this how long should i do this 250 trt for how long??
you can do mid test (250-300) with low dose tren and add something in there or up the tren dosage, HGH is doing the most for you in terms of ''bones'', for dimo you'd want something very androgenic such as tren/mast/etc, if you got good genes its fine just have a ''simple'' hair stack at the begin (can be something as small as 2.5 mg minoxidil and derma stamping) if you notice recession titrate your stack up or change your gear. you can do 250 for as long as you want tbh, low dose tren i wouldnt do longer than 15-20 weeks, mast too, and yes your balls will ALWAYS recover unless you literally got insane amounts of exposure and have bad genes (look at every bodybuilder with children JFL), id start off with 0.25mg arimidex eod, if you still experience high e2 sides titrate up till you dont (very unlikely)
 
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hmm idk rn im jst gona run the ai and test ehh im gona look for the hair stack and where i could find it then im gona start the steroids non aromatizable also
did u mean by wouldnt take under 18 like the steroids or the other things? im 15
as i said TRT dosages (NOT trt+ dosages) of test such as 100-200 are very weak and wont do much for you in terms of muscle, thats why i suggested you do ATLEAST 250-300 combined with other compounds that DONT aromatize, when i said i wouldnt take it i was talking about the DHT blockers since in puberty DHT affects alot of male features which are important but thankfully we have topical anti androgens for that. but tbh you're on GH right now anyways so you can start pinning the test and just try and keep your e2 in check, at 150-200 test you wont aromatize so if you lower your e2 for the main goal of height growth you could very likely accidentally crash your estrogen (which is VERY bad), i know it seems like its all about height and stuff but crashing your e2 is gonna fuck with your brain (things like iq, prefrontal cortex, behaviour, impulsiveness, etc) so yea just make sure you feel good while using the AI and you should be fine
 
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150-200mg Test (upping the dossage by time)

6iu HGH (pharma) im alreday prescribed

40-50 Var
anastrazole (arimidix) 0.25-0.5 mgs eod

NOTE: im ghd found out late with little space of growth plates open

and i dont want to fuck myself up that much if there are better things to add tell me


also if im not plannin to be on trt for life would it shrink my balls if i were to hop off or like stunt my natraul test production? i cant afford pct either or should i just cruise?


///OR run anavar without a test base? since i cant get much bloodwork or hcg and accidently close my grwoth plates sooner im alr short


hcg should i also use hcg? its too expesnive abt 75$ and i also dont have money for any ancillaries :feelsbadman:
Seems fine, hcg on cruise not on cycle for e2 reasons. Maybe up the adex if you tolerate
 
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you can do mid test (250-300) with low dose tren and add something in there or up the tren dosage, HGH is doing the most for you in terms of ''bones'', for dimo you'd want something very androgenic such as tren/mast/etc, if you got good genes its fine just have a ''simple'' hair stack at the begin (can be something as small as 2.5 mg minoxidil and derma stamping) if you notice recession titrate your stack up or change your gear. you can do 250 for as long as you want tbh, low dose tren i wouldnt do longer than 15-20 weeks, mast too, and yes your balls will ALWAYS recover unless you literally got insane amounts of exposure and have bad genes (look at every bodybuilder with children JFL), id start off with 0.25mg arimidex eod, if you still experience high e2 sides titrate up till you dont (very unlikely)
yeah im gona do 250 and 300 but should it be lower as the first cycle? yeah im gona do that after a few months yesyes iwill need roids for that i will ask u for that brah thanks

holy shit so like it recovers and so my natrual test producdtion too? hmm thankyou brah

i apreciate this first actual user who ACTUALY HELPED and didnt tell me to killymself
im gona do ai and gh and test for now
 
what
Seems fine, hcg on cruise not on cycle for e2 reasons. Maybe up the adex if you tolerate
whats cruise like once hoped off? idk im now gonna just do test and ai with the test 200-300 and anavar for another time when i have money saved up also do i really need hcg? its too fucking expesnive
 
possible LVH speedrun without ancillaries

also since youre 15 you probably need the hcg otherwise youll be infertile

edit: do what sherry told you to do with the hcg hes more knowledgeable than me
 
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what

whats cruise like once hoped off? idk im now gonna just do test and ai with the test 200-300 and anavar for another time when i have money saved up also do i really need hcg? its too fucking expesnive
cruise is trt in between blasts, if u plan to hop off which i really dont recommend u use hcg and hmg to restore ur baseline. Ur essetnally jsut doing trt so u wont even need to trt, just run 200-300 for the rest of ur life
 
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as i said TRT dosages (NOT trt+ dosages) of test such as 100-200 are very weak and wont do much for you in terms of muscle, thats why i suggested you do ATLEAST 250-300 combined with other compounds that DONT aromatize, when i said i wouldnt take it i was talking about the DHT blockers since in puberty DHT affects alot of male features which are important but thankfully we have topical anti androgens for that. but tbh you're on GH right now anyways so you can start pinning the test and just try and keep your e2 in check, at 150-200 test you wont aromatize so if you lower your e2 for the main goal of height growth you could very likely accidentally crash your estrogen (which is VERY bad), i know it seems like its all about height and stuff but crashing your e2 is gonna fuck with your brain (things like iq, prefrontal cortex, behaviour, impulsiveness, etc) so yea just make sure you feel good while using the AI and you should be fine
aperciate it imgona do 250-300 weekly startin 200 first week then upping it
 
yeah im gona do 250 and 300 but should it be lower as the first cycle? yeah im gona do that after a few months yesyes iwill need roids for that i will ask u for that brah thanks

holy shit so like it recovers and so my natrual test producdtion too? hmm thankyou brah

i apreciate this first actual user who ACTUALY HELPED and didnt tell me to killymself
im gona do ai and gh and test for now
wdym it recovers? If you eventually want to have children or get back to your test levels you can do that using a PCT protocol, depending on your exposure and how long you've ran it for you can maybe get back to baseline or around half of it (some people cant), but i was mostly talking about your fertility which can be recovered by 99.9% of people.

personally i'd do 300 test and it shouldnt really be lower as the first cycle since most first cycles are 500 test, but you're worried about premature plate closure so thats why we are going lower (will still have good results ESPECIALLY if adding in other compounds)
 
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aperciate it imgona do 250-300 weekly startin 200 first week then upping it
i wouldnt up it since you're using an AI anyways you can just start at 300 anyways, it takes 5 weeks to saturate
 
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possible LVH speedrun without ancillaries

also since youre 15 you probably need the hcg otherwise youll be infertile

edit: do what sherry told you to do with the hcg hes more knowledgeable than me
im gona just run test now and anavar for later
 
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cruise is trt in between blasts, if u plan to hop off which i really dont recommend u use hcg and hmg to restore ur baseline. Ur essetnally jsut doing trt so u wont even need to trt, just run 200-300 for the rest of ur life
so how long should i do test? for example if i did 14 weeks what to do next? how much to wait to start another cycle? of test and so ur saying only when i wanted to have kids to run pct? it will recover my infertlity?
 
wdym it recovers? If you eventually want to have children or get back to your test levels you can do that using a PCT protocol, depending on your exposure and how long you've ran it for you can maybe get back to baseline or around half of it (some people cant), but i was mostly talking about your fertility which can be recovered by 99.9% of people.

personally i'd do 300 test and it shouldnt really be lower as the first cycle since most first cycles are 500 test, but you're worried about premature plate closure so thats why we are going lower (will still have good results ESPECIALLY if adding in other compounds)
like the balls shrinking thing, so my inferility will restore? if i run pct at like 30 or smth and been on trt for that long? since if i hop off my natrual test prodcution has stopped but i shouldnt hop off right?
 

@Doom0 if i were to run test for like3- 4 months what do i do after that run another cycle? like not hop off?​

 
so how long should i do test? for example if i did 14 weeks what to do next? how much to wait to start another cycle? of test and so ur saying only when i wanted to have kids to run pct? it will recover my infertlity?
you can do test forever something like 200-250 is just a trt+ dosage and can be run for VERY long, a cycle is really when you start adding in other compounds then you can start counting down, if you ran 250 test for 4 months you werent on cycle for 4 months you were on trt (trt+ dosage but whatever). a cycle with a mid test base would be smth like 300 test+some tren+a oral (just an example) which i wouldnt run for more than 20 weeks, and with pct the main thing thats going into restoring fertility is something like HCG or HMG, you can just run that and try to concieve kids (during your cycle) alot of people can still concieve even on trt, if you cant you can also use HCG/HMG
 
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if i were to run test for like3- 4 months what do i do after that run another cycle? like not hop off?​

depends on the dosage if you were to BLAST 300 test+other compounds for 20 weeks as an example, after the cycle you'd titrate your testosterone down to a trt like dosage (100-200, can also do 250-300 if bloods are fine), and maintain your gains. Then you'd let your body recover and go into something like a health phase on trt. then after a while you can take a look at how you feel and if you are healthy and blast again
 
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depends on the dosage if you were to BLAST 300 test+other compounds for 20 weeks as an example, after the cycle you'd titrate your testosterone down to a trt like dosage (100-200, can also do 250-300 if bloods are fine), and maintain your gains. Then you'd let your body recover and go into something like a health phase on trt. then after a while you can take a look at how you feel and if you are healthy and blast again
im saying like only 250-300 test with no other compounds just test hmm aight thanks bro
 
im saying like only 250-300 test with no other compounds just test hmm aight thanks bro
you can run that for a long time but at 250-300 you prolly will aromatize above the ideal so using an AI during that period is important if you dont want to close your plates, if you do a trt dosage with open plates i wont do more than 200 personally (ideally you'd get bloodwork but i know you wont lmao)
 
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you can do test forever something like 200-250 is just a trt+ dosage and can be run for VERY long, a cycle is really when you start adding in other compounds then you can start counting down, if you ran 250 test for 4 months you werent on cycle for 4 months you were on trt (trt+ dosage but whatever). a cycle with a mid test base would be smth like 300 test+some tren+a oral (just an example) which i wouldnt run for more than 20 weeks, and with pct the main thing thats going into restoring fertility is something like HCG or HMG, you can just run that and try to concieve kids (during your cycle) alot of people can still concieve even on trt, if you cant you can also use HCG/HMG
wydm by trt+dossage? oh so its not a cycle i can run that test for a long time?
so only count down the how long when ur adding other compounds like steroids and hcg or hmg afterwards? after i hopped off and wanted ot have kids? or ur saying during trt use hcg /hmg
 
you can run that for a long time but at 250-300 you prolly will aromatize above the ideal so using an AI during that period is important if you dont want to close your plates, if you do a trt dosage with open plates i wont do more than 200 personally (ideally you'd get bloodwork but i know you wont lmao)
what blood work should i get? i gotta ask for it which and which shit to get the blood work, and
yes im gona run 0.25 mg arimdix everday with the test would that ai dosage be enoug right

idk i have only gotten like the e2 and test my test was 4,89 sg/mL and e2 at 32
also wouldnt balls shrink?
 
what blood work should i get? i gotta ask for it which and which shit to get the blood work, and
yes im gona run 0.25 mg arimdix everday with the test would that ai dosage be enoug right

idk i have only gotten like the e2 and test my test was 4,89 sg/mL and e2 at 32
also wouldnt balls shrink?
nigga what 0.25mg daily is overkill do 0.25 eod, and idk if it would be enough that depends on how you feel but 250 is pretty mild so yeah, and yes balls could shrink
 
nigga what 0.25mg daily is overkill do 0.25 eod, and idk if it would be enough that depends on how you feel but 250 is pretty mild so yeah, and yes balls could shrink
ohh so like one day on and off hmm idk im js gon gamble preety it wont close my growth plates,

and does that matter tho:lul:?would they ever return to normal?
 
so how long should i do test? for example if i did 14 weeks what to do next? how much to wait to start another cycle? of test and so ur saying only when i wanted to have kids to run pct? it will recover my infertlity?
u need to do alot more research bro
 

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