First cycle, Mid test+other compounds (HIGH IQ ROIDERS ONLY PLEASE)

[Doom0]

im 15.5 kind of leanish/skinny fat but slowly getting lean using reta, im 182 cm and wanted to originally get lean first and do a bulk cycle of 500 test+aromasin, but i was worried about early plate closure even with an AI (local estrogen in plates), I asked around and people suggested lowering the test dosage (200-350), and using something that wont aromatize such as low doses of Trenbolone or mild steroids such as Anavar, my question is would it be a good idea to use 250 test+50 tren+20 anavar for 15 weeks and then cruise at a trt dosage before doing a 2nd blast, Please dont answer to this if you want to discourage me from hoping on AAS since i could care less if you think its not safe, i want the physique halo and am ready to take Steroids for it (im predicted to hit 185-192 cm), i will also use good support to try and mitigate the sides from such a low tren dosage since i do want to recomp using it (lose fat and build muscle),

 

[6footislaw]

dnr shitty format nobody reading this

 

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[Joeseminate]

no

 

[trenenjoyer67]

Trenbolone is too strong and i completely do not recommend it as a first cycle because the side effects can be hard to control at the beginning the best option would be testosterone enanthate/cypionate at around 200mg to 400mg solo with nothing else so you can see how your body reacts later you can maybe add Anavar or replace part of the testosterone dose with nandrolone or EQ

 

[Doom0]

Trenbolone is too strong and i completely do not recommend it as a first cycle because the side effects can be hard to control at the beginning the best option would be testosterone enanthate/cypionate at around 200mg to 400mg solo with nothing else so you can see how your body reacts later you can maybe add Anavar or replace part of the testosterone dose with nandrolone or EQ

i was planning to do 500 test as i said but i dont want localised estrogen closing my plates early (even with AI), thats why i thought 250+anavar and low tren would've been good, which other compounds should i use with test for my first cycle if i still want good results like from 500 test but without the insane aromatisation

 

[iblamezygomaticbone]

just do test and aromasin, if youre rich hgh

 

[trenenjoyer67]

i was planning to do 500 test as i said but i dont want localised estrogen closing my plates early (even with AI), thats why i thought 250+anavar and low tren would've been good, which other compounds should i use with test for my first cycle if i still want good results like from 500 test but without the insane aromatisation

trenbolone causes strong side effects like insomnia and acne even at very low doses and I am on 250mg of testosterone and I do not aromatize at all and I am not using any AI honestly it is very individual and from compounds that do not aromatize much the best is primobolan although it is expensive anavar is also good but it does not really build much muscle it is more cosmetic

 

[Doom0]

just do test and aromasin, if youre rich hgh

will i still get good results on just 250 test tho? i heard that anything under 350 test by itself is probably not gonna harber any good results, maybe smth like 250 test and var although thats still very mild tbh

 

[iblamezygomaticbone]

will i still get good results on just 250 test tho? i heard that anything under 350 test by itself is probably not gonna harber any good results, maybe smth like 250 test and var although thats still very mild tbh

i mean for a first cycle its better to go on the lower end, and me personally i saw significant changes from just 200, just do 250 maybe increase a little but prob dont go over 400 on your first cycle

 

[Doom0]

trenbolone causes strong side effects like insomnia and acne even at very low doses and I am on 250mg of testosterone and I do not aromatize at all and I am not using any AI honestly it is very individual and from compounds that do not aromatize much the best is primobolan although it is expensive anavar is also good but it does not really build much muscle it is more cosmetic

is 250 test even good enough to see decent results tho? I hear alot of people saying its pretty mild if i were to do jsut test id atleast want to pair it with something else like 250 test+var tbh

 

[trenenjoyer67]

is 250 test even good enough to see decent results tho? I hear alot of people saying its pretty mild if i were to do jsut test id atleast want to pair it with something else like 250 test+var tbh

it is not a good idea to start by mixing multiple compounds because then you cannot tell what is working and what is causing side effects. responses are very individual and what is mild dose for one person can be very effective for another.

 

[trenenjoyer67]

is 250 test even good enough to see decent results tho? I hear alot of people saying its pretty mild if i were to do jsut test id atleast want to pair it with something else like 250 test+var tbh

I would start at 250mg and see how I feel and then possibly increase the dose until the point where I start noticing side effects