first cycle - ostarine

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doing my first cycle 20mg of ostarine for 60 days (with enclo base/pct) should it give decent gains has anyone tried it? not hopping on test yet i don't want to shut myself fully down since im in puberty but incase ostarine leaves me with low t then i will have an excuse to do test. doing it to fill out my frame quicker don't expect anything more
 
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Ostarine will shut down natural production without proper test base and trt
 
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Sarms are crap don't do them
 
enclo base = jester
 
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Sarms are crap don't do them
Why though? i mean i saw many guys get decent results with them without full shutdown
 
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Ostarine will shut down natural production without proper test base and trt
Deadass? i mean i know it will supress but i saw alot of guys didnt get full shutdown from it. if it happens ig thats an excuse to just do test
 
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Why though? i mean i saw many guys get decent results with them without full shutdown
You're gonna suppress your T and not retain the tissue

just pin test why does natural production even matter its 2026
 
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You're gonna suppress your T and not retain the tissue

just pin test why does natural production even matter its 2026
idk ig just don't wanna accept yet that imma start test for life at such a young age but if i do get shutdown imma use that as an excuse to pin
 
Deadass? i mean i know it will supress but i saw alot of guys didnt get full shutdown from it. if it happens ig thats an excuse to just do test
Most of those guys are above 18. Don’t risk it for muscle gains which will just go away after cycle.
 
You're gonna suppress your T and not retain the tissue

just pin test why does natural production even matter its 2026
Test + Sarms seems pretty good to me

Why use DHT derivatives looksmin yourself
 
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Test + Sarms seems pretty good to me

Why use DHT derivatives looksmin yourself
I don't promote dht derivatives

Test+EQ is what I recommend

Test+Primo is fine too generally despite primo being a dht derivative

Mast is the issue
 
I don't promote dht derivatives

Test+EQ is what I recommend

Test+Primo is fine too generally despite primo being a dht derivative

Mast is the issue
Why not replace the EQ or Primo with Sarms and run no risk of acne or hair loss

Might not be the most effective for size but at the end of the day we are looksmaxxers not bodybuilders
 
Why not replace the EQ or Primo with Sarms and run no risk of acne or hair loss

Might not be the most effective for size but at the end of the day we are looksmaxxers not bodybuilders
Sarms are worse for your health and you can counteract the hairloss and acne from Test and EQ because you can use 5ar inhibitors and control e2 easily.
 
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Sarms are worse for your health and you can counteract the hairloss and acne from Test and EQ because you can use 5ar inhibitors and control e2 easily.
What’s the advantage of doing test + eq as opposed to just more test
 
What’s the advantage of doing test + eq as opposed to just more test
EQ controls E2 and allows you to take more test if that is what you want

Its designed for long term lean tissue accrual
 
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EQ controls E2 and allows you to take more test if that is what you want

Its designed for long term lean tissue accrual
What if I wanted to do 150 test and 300 EQ so I wouldn’t have to worry about E2 sides (ik you can use aromasin, but there is a fine line between too little and too much)
 
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What if I wanted to do 150 test and 300 EQ so I wouldn’t have to worry about E2 sides (ik you can use aromasin, but there is a fine line between too little and too much)
More test, test is more anabolic in practice than EQ

better would be 300 test and 400 eq
 
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More test, test is more anabolic in practice than EQ

better would be 300 test and 400 eq
But then I would have to worry about gyno

For reference I got gyno from 4 iu of hgh alone so that’s why I’m being such a pussy about it

Honestly I might have to settle for 500 test + 4 iu growth + an AI if I ever hop on
 
But then I would have to worry about gyno

For reference I got gyno from 4 iu of hgh alone so that’s why I’m being such a pussy about it

Honestly I might have to settle for 500 test + 4 iu growth + an AI if I ever hop on
You wouldn't have to worry about gyno running EQ, the point is it manages E2

and if you have raloxifene on hand you can really deal with gyno
 
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You wouldn't have to worry about gyno running EQ, the point is it manages E2

and if you have raloxifene on hand you can really deal with gyno
Yeah I’m on Tamoxifen rn, have some raloxifene coming in soon

Would it be retarded to be on raloxifene during cycle?
 
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Yeah I’m going Tamoxifen rn, have some raloxifene coming in soon

Would it be retarded to be on raloxifene during cycle?
yeah its only beneficial to add it if you see negatives

it can fully reverse early stage gyno so theres no reason to prefire
 
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Ostarine will shut down natural production without proper test base and trt
Ostarine is known for little to no t suppression do your research
 
You're gonna suppress your T and not retain the tissue

just pin test why does natural production even matter its 2026
i did a ostarine cycle at 16. 20 mg for 6 weeks n i feel like my test got fucked. im 18 now tho do u think it can still b affecting me? i went n got a blood test my test is 480. but i been dealing w anxiety n depression but i been had tht b4 the ostarine
 
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In some people your natural test can just not recover.

You could try serms like enclo or hop on test if you wanted.

T level doesn’t really matter for hypertrophy tho unless you’re in the supraphysiological range
 
In some people your natural test can just not recover.

You could try serms like enclo or hop on test if you wanted.

T level doesn’t really matter for hypertrophy tho unless you’re in the supraphysiological range
fuck bro. nah i dont even wanna hop back on cycle. i been making good ass progress natty. but i just dont know if my shit got suppressed and its been fucking my life up. is there anyway to know if i didint get my blood before hand
 
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fuck bro. nah i dont even wanna hop back on cycle. i been making good ass progress natty. but i just dont know if my shit got suppressed and its been fucking my life up. is there anyway to know if i didint get my blood before hand
Go get comprehensive bloods now and talk to your doctor
 

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