FIRST CYCLE (TEST EQ NPP GH SLIN) GTFIH ROIDERS

[Chronicmilker]

Currently 16, on 12 gh. Heres a list of the first stack im running, if u have advice or want to know why im running smt lmk.

300 test base
125 eq
200 npp
8 gh (yes im lowering)
20ius slin (8 pre 12 post) on training days
25 var (later in cycle)
Will run for 16-20 weeks will assess bloods 8 weeks and 16 weeks in (pre bloods otw now)
5mg mots c weekly
0.5 reta weekly
500mcg bpc daily

if ur wondering why i lowered gh im swapping from china gh to domestic eu ugl, both of my chinese suppliers arent selling gh anymore after the new regulations..

 

[combatingNorwooding]

Adding EQ first cycle is retarded, you don’t know if you will get high e2 sides or not. If you notice high e2 sides during the cycle then add it yes

 

[Chronicmilker]

Adding EQ first cycle is retarded, you don’t know if you will get high e2 sides or not. If you notice high e2 sides during the cycle then add it yes

im aware but im not planning to run an ai although i have asin on hand, I thought eq didn't affect brain-derived estrogen so then lower e2 wouldnt be as much of an issue but I doubt that's the case. I reckoned it would be alright regardless since is less than a 1:2 ratio and not a lot of eq.

 

[combatingNorwooding]

im aware but im not planning to run an ai although i have asin on hand, I thought eq didn't affect brain-derived estrogen so then lower e2 wouldnt be as much of an issue but I doubt that's the case. I reckoned it would be alright regardless since is less than a 1:2 ratio and not a lot of eq.

True, but your test is not high anyway so there won’t be much high e2 sides anyway (probably) but if there will be then just add the EQ

I see no reason to nuke your e2 for no reason

On the other hand you are probably still growing so nuking e2 for half an year might be okay

@TrueOgreGymcel understand more than me he could give insight

 

[Chronicmilker]

True, but your test is not high anyway so there won’t be much high e2 sides anyway (probably) but if there will be then just add the EQ

I see no reason to nuke your e2 for no reason

On the other hand you are probably still growing so nuking e2 for half an year might be okay

@TrueOgreGymcel understand more than me he could give insight

Yes exactly, the outcome would be either nuked e2 which is calm as long as i maybe run some neuroprotective compounds, or being in range, which would be the best. I'll wait a bit before i add eq then i suppose. The main long term growth will come from npp and just pushing food effectively.

 

[TrueOgreGymcel]

Hello. You are sixteen years old and this is probably your first cycle. You are running deca durabolin, an extremely suppressive compound due to the fact this is a 19-nor compound. It's also a progestin and it can increase the incidence of estrogen side effects. Adding EQ at this stage is just running the risk for e2 levels to get out of hand. @combatingNorwooding is right ; that testosterone base is low enough as it is and you won't aromatize much (in theory, your mileage may vary).

Old school roiders like to add EQ to get a higher aromatization rate, especially when running dry compounds. It's very frequent to see a 3 to 1 EQ-Test ratio when they run high doses of winny or masteron usually for a cut/prep. Of course while also running the dreaded Tren monster too.

All that to say ; EQ is not needed here in my opinion and at such a low dose, it's practically ineffective. Just leave it for another cycle. EQ shines when used at a high dose which means the test base has to be too.

Only the bloodworks and the monitoring of your levels will let you know whre you stand. Remember despite all the theory, steroids response is largely influenced by the individual. Hope this helps.

 

[Chronicmilker]

Hello. You are sixteen years old and this is probably your first cycle. You are running deca durabolin, an extremely suppressive compound due to the fact this is a 19-nor compound. It's also a progestin and it can increase the incidence of estrogen side effects. Adding EQ at this stage is just running the risk for e2 levels to get out of hand. @combatingNorwooding is right ; that testosterone base is low enough as it is and you won't aromatize much (in theory, your mileage may vary).

Old school roiders like to add EQ to get a higher aromatization rate, especially when running dry compounds. It's very frequent to see a 3 to 1 EQ-Test ratio when they run high doses of winny or masteron usually for a cut/prep. Of course while also running the dreaded Tren monster too.

All that to say ; EQ is not needed here in my opinion and at such a low dose, it's practically ineffective. Just leave it for another cycle. EQ shines when used at a high dose which means the test base has to be too.

Only the bloodworks and the monitoring of your levels will let you know whre you stand. Remember despite all the theory, steroids response is largely influenced by the individual. Hope this helps.

Appreciate the response, I won't plan to run eq then but I'm still purchasing a vial as its cheap and I can always sell it, I'll just have to see how I aromatize. In regards to npp being harsh, I'm aware but it's still "milder" than other 19nors such as tren or ment lol, tbh I think the most important is the execution of training n diet so hopefully I can manage cal intake w slin as an inexperienced teen lmao.

 

[TrueOgreGymcel]

Appreciate the response, I won't plan to run eq then but I'm still purchasing a vial as its cheap and I can always sell it, I'll just have to see how I aromatize. In regards to npp being harsh, I'm aware but it's still "milder" than other 19nors such as tren or ment lol, tbh I think the most important is the execution of training n diet so hopefully I can manage cal intake w slin as an inexperienced teen lmao.

You got this son. Of course compared to Tren and Ment, Deca is an angel but the metabolites will remain in your system for a long time so don't half-ass your PCT. And yes! Diet is fundamental, it's key. Best of luck and be careful with the insulin, like for real. Avoid using it if you can (for now). Eat, train, sleep, repeat but unironically.

 

[Chronicmilker]

You got this son. Of course compared to Tren and Ment, Deca is an angel but the metabolites will remain in your system for a long time so don't half-ass your PCT. And yes! Diet is fundamental, it's key. Best of luck and be careful with the insulin, like for real. Avoid using it if you can (for now). Eat, train, sleep, repeat but unironically.

My insulin sensitivity isn't the best even tho im lean, do fasted cardio, and walk after meals + use Dihydroberberine, ive been on 12gh for a few months so it's starting to show. Will most likely have to use slin when I'm pushing more carbs. Also, I'm not planning to run a pct, but to cruise.

 

[TrueOgreGymcel]

My insulin sensitivity isn't the best even tho im lean, do fasted cardio, and walk after meals + use Dihydroberberine, ive been on 12gh for a few months so it's starting to show. Will most likely have to use slin when I'm pushing more carbs. Also, I'm not planning to run a pct, but to cruise.

Okay I see. How much do you weigh? Any weight goal in mind?

 

[Chronicmilker]

Okay I see. How much do you weigh? Any weight goal in mind?

72kg fasted at 5'10 morning height I'm lean but by no means shredded (some back vascularity, chest vascularity, shoulders striated, abs) but can still pinch fat in many regions, likely around 14-16% bf. I'm starting my cycle on the second week of July, when I return from holiday, and I wish to push to around 90-100kg depending on how I respond in a 12-20 week period, I'm planning for 20 but obviously sides can come up that prevent a longer cycle. Then a health phase and cut.