first cycle thoughts

[sha]

16.5yrs
5’10
165lbs
20ish bf%
CLOSED growth plates

Goals
mainly aesthetics. chasing a wider frame somehow by prioritizing shoulders and back in the gym and idc abt numbers/strength. also hoping to improve dimo while keeping my hair.

Compounds

• test E - start 200 go up to 300/week
• either var or hgh (if im not broke) 30mg/4iu
• ai on hand if e2 sides appear mainly for gyno

around 20 weeks total rn

Ancillaries:

• ru58841 to not bald (already norwood 1.5ish, horrible family history)
• idk give suggestions

PCT

abt 2 weeks after last pin gonna use either Nolvadex or clomiphene for 4-6 weeks. no hcg as idgaf abt fertility.
but since my dose is so low i’m lowkey wondering if pct is even needed?

Bloodwork
got blood a couple weeks ago and it’s fine so i’ll ball and might not get another unless i notice major sides bc im broke asf once again


please ask questions and i appreciate suggestions especially from people who have ran similar cycles ik im a retard but i don’t wanna fuck up the rest of my life even more

 

[Escanor1]

would be better if u started this cycle lean but go ahead

 

[sha]

would be better if u started this cycle lean but go ahead

around 12%? might just use reta bc ive been cutting for the longest time

 

[Escanor1]

around 12%? might just use reta bc ive been cutting for the longest time

sub 10

 

[zennn]

yoooooo we are almost the same bro mirin https://looksmax.org/threads/16-year-old-beginner-steroid-cycle.2107061/

 

[sha]

b

 

[agarthancha]

Closed growth plates = 10 g test

 

[sha]

Closed growth plates = 10 g test

10g test = bald

 

[lmnopq]

16.5yrs
5’10
165lbs
20ish bf%
CLOSED growth plates

Goals
mainly aesthetics. chasing a wider frame somehow by prioritizing shoulders and back in the gym and idc abt numbers/strength. also hoping to improve dimo while keeping my hair.

Compounds

• test E - start 200 go up to 300/week
• either var or hgh (if im not broke) 30mg/4iu
• ai on hand if e2 sides appear mainly for gyno

around 20 weeks total rn

Ancillaries:

• ru58841 to not bald (already norwood 1.5ish, horrible family history)
• idk give suggestions

PCT

abt 2 weeks after last pin gonna use either Nolvadex or clomiphene for 4-6 weeks. no hcg as idgaf abt fertility.
but since my dose is so low i’m lowkey wondering if pct is even needed?

Bloodwork
got blood a couple weeks ago and it’s fine so i’ll ball and might not get another unless i notice major sides bc im broke asf once again


please ask questions and i appreciate suggestions especially from people who have ran similar cycles ik im a retard but i don’t wanna fuck up the rest of my life even more

Even if u won’t grow taller ur frame will still improve untill early 20s

 

[sha]

Even if u won’t grow taller ur frame will still improve untill early 20s

yeah that’s the main goal i can easily fraud to 6ft

 

[agarthancha]

10g test = bald

Nuh uh dut and ru

 

[_Nazareth_]

16.5yrs
5’10
165lbs
20ish bf%
CLOSED growth plates

Goals
mainly aesthetics. chasing a wider frame somehow by prioritizing shoulders and back in the gym and idc abt numbers/strength. also hoping to improve dimo while keeping my hair.

Compounds

• test E - start 200 go up to 300/week
• either var or hgh (if im not broke) 30mg/4iu
• ai on hand if e2 sides appear mainly for gyno

around 20 weeks total rn

Ancillaries:

• ru58841 to not bald (already norwood 1.5ish, horrible family history)
• idk give suggestions

PCT

abt 2 weeks after last pin gonna use either Nolvadex or clomiphene for 4-6 weeks. no hcg as idgaf abt fertility.
but since my dose is so low i’m lowkey wondering if pct is even needed?

Bloodwork
got blood a couple weeks ago and it’s fine so i’ll ball and might not get another unless i notice major sides bc im broke asf once again


please ask questions and i appreciate suggestions especially from people who have ran similar cycles ik im a retard but i don’t wanna fuck up the rest of my life even more

Just take Reta first don’t run at 20% bf

 

[sha]

b

 

[takoprit333]

4iu is too low

 

[sha]

4iu is too low

not taking it for height or muscle or anything mainly for better recovery and also to manage water retention like most bodybuilders do, is it too low for that?

 

[takoprit333]

not taking it for height or muscle or anything mainly for better recovery and also to manage water retention like most bodybuilders do, is it too low for that?

Didnt see closed growth plate mb

 

[imjustcookedfr]

16.5yrs
5’10
165lbs
20ish bf%
CLOSED growth plates

Goals
mainly aesthetics. chasing a wider frame somehow by prioritizing shoulders and back in the gym and idc abt numbers/strength. also hoping to improve dimo while keeping my hair.

Compounds

• test E - start 200 go up to 300/week
• either var or hgh (if im not broke) 30mg/4iu
• ai on hand if e2 sides appear mainly for gyno

around 20 weeks total rn

Ancillaries:

• ru58841 to not bald (already norwood 1.5ish, horrible family history)
• idk give suggestions

PCT

abt 2 weeks after last pin gonna use either Nolvadex or clomiphene for 4-6 weeks. no hcg as idgaf abt fertility.
but since my dose is so low i’m lowkey wondering if pct is even needed?

Bloodwork
got blood a couple weeks ago and it’s fine so i’ll ball and might not get another unless i notice major sides bc im broke asf once again


please ask questions and i appreciate suggestions especially from people who have ran similar cycles ik im a retard but i don’t wanna fuck up the rest of my life even more

Do hcg you fucking faggot and yes pct is needed dont listen to retards here on org listen to the fucking science

 

[sha]

Do hcg you fucking faggot and yes pct is needed dont listen to retards here on org listen to the fucking science

hcg throughout cycle or couple weeks before pct?

 

[imjustcookedfr]

hcg throughout cycle or couple weeks before pct?

Throughout it will also not surpress you that much > meaning better recovery and u wont lose that much mass when on pct