First cycle (TREN)

[Nitroyx]

Whats up guys, just came on here today to discuss my first cycle with yall in a few weeks ts should arrive:

tren enanthate
enclomiphene (no test base on purpose)
accutane
mk677 or cjc-1295 dac (no hgh on purpose)
p5p
zink
ashwangandha
berberine
taurine
tudca
omega 3
vitamin d3k2
magnesium
glycin

may add stronger compounds to minimize side effects, gonna have to wait how my body reacts
gonna start at 20mg a week, then up the dose until my blood markers get bad
gonna stay on for as long as i can

feel free do discuss with me or to give suggestions

 

[Nitroyx]

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[Nitroyx]

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[Nitroyx]

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[Nitroyx]

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[hexonoff]

Whats up guys, just came on here today to discuss my first cycle with yall in a few weeks ts should arrive:

tren enanthate
enclomiphene (no test base on purpose)
accutane
mk677 or cjc-1295 dac (no hgh on purpose)
p5p
zink
ashwangandha
berberine
taurine
tudca
omega 3
vitamin d3k2
magnesium
glycin

may add stronger compounds to minimize side effects, gonna have to wait how my body reacts
gonna start at 20mg a week, then up the dose until my blood markers get bad
gonna stay on for as long as i can

feel free do discuss with me or to give suggestions

Interesting compound choice I would drop the cjc only would take Mk gh pulse is a waste just get good sleep Enclo is wild people usually do hcg or test

 

[Nitroyx]

Interesting compound choice I would drop the cjc only would take Mk gh pulse is a waste just get good sleep Enclo is wild people usually do hcg or test

yes, prolly gonna ditch the enclo and do hcg wont do test on purpose, if i do test i would have to worry about estrogen and using an ai will keep estrogen low and thats gonna stop bone from forming

 

[hexonoff]

yes, prolly gonna ditch the enclo and do hcg wont do test on purpose, if i do test i would have to worry about estrogen and using an ai will keep estrogen low and thats gonna stop bone from forming

I mean to extent if you do 70-120mg of test is just gonna guarantee to keep your safe in atleast a normal test range of a teenager are 400-500 and it won’t convert to any more estrogen

 

[Nitroyx]

I mean to extent if you do 70-120mg of test is just gonna guarantee to keep your safe in atleast a normal test range of a teenager are 400-500 and it won’t convert to any more estrogen

nah, problem is test always aromatizes its not dose dependent in a linear way, enclomiphene is exactly for that it keeps test lvl comparable to exogenous test lvls without suppressing lh and fsh and without aromatization

 

[hexonoff]

nah, problem is test always aromatizes its not dose dependent in a linear way, enclomiphene is exactly for that it keeps test lvl comparable to exogenous test lvls without suppressing lh and fsh and without aromatization

I mean do what you want are you tryna grow taller?

 

[Nitroyx]

I mean do what you want are you tryna grow taller?

yes also that

 

[sebastzero]

ur gonna feel like shit no test base

 

[Joeseminate]

tag in results

 

[Nitroyx]

ur gonna feel like shit no test base

enclo bro enclo

 

[sebastzero]

enclo bro enclo

I doubt that will save you but better than nothing ig

 

[Nitroyx]

I doubt that will save you but better than nothing ig

why not in studies it even shows comparable levels to exogenous test

 

[sebastzero]

why not in studies it even shows comparable levels to exogenous test

those studies don’t include the suppression from tren lol, the results are already hypogonadal men

 

[Nitroyx]

those studies don’t include the suppression from tren lol, the results are already hypogonadal men

valid point but the hypgonadal men have supressed HPTA thats the worst case scenario for enclo to work in, if enclo works in men whose HPTA is already cokmpromised it literally shows it can work against suppresion not just in healthy men, tren suppression and hypogonadism both work via the samepathway , reduced LH/FSH = reduced endogenous test enclomiphene addresses that pathway directly regardless of the cause, the you feel bad argument is also dose dependant im not blasting im microdosing

 

[sebastzero]

valid point but the hypgonadal men have supressed HPTA thats the worst case scenario for enclo to work in, if enclo works in men whose HPTA is already cokmpromised it literally shows it can work against suppresion not just in healthy men, tren suppression and hypogonadism both work via the samepathway , reduced LH/FSH = reduced endogenous test enclomiphene addresses that pathway directly regardless of the cause, the you feel bad argument is also dose dependant im not blasting im microdosing

how long you gonna run it for?

 

[sebastzero]

valid point but the hypgonadal men have supressed HPTA thats the worst case scenario for enclo to work in, if enclo works in men whose HPTA is already cokmpromised it literally shows it can work against suppresion not just in healthy men, tren suppression and hypogonadism both work via the samepathway , reduced LH/FSH = reduced endogenous test enclomiphene addresses that pathway directly regardless of the cause, the you feel bad argument is also dose dependant im not blasting im microdosing

also maybe get some nueroprotection if you care about ur brain

 

[Nitroyx]

also maybe get some nueroprotection if you care about ur brain

true... will have to see about that, any suggestions specifically?

 

[xenovia]

Pull the entire “cycle”. This shit fucking blows

 

[Nitroyx]

Pull the entire “cycle”. This shit fucking blows

why

 

[sebastzero]

true... will have to see about that, any suggestions specifically?

just off the top of my head cerebrolsyin and semax. nueroprotection lowk costs more than the cycle kinda why I haven’t touched tren lol

 

[xenovia]

why

It’s unoptimal and just dogshit all around. You’d feel better off cycle then on this shit

 

[Nitroyx]

just off the top of my head cerebrolsyin and semax. nueroprotection lowk costs more than the cycle kinda why I haven’t touched tren lol

yea isnt cerebrolysin expensive af?

 

[Nitroyx]

It’s unoptimal and just dogshit all around. You’d feel better off cycle then on this shit

give me a better cycle and state ur arguments

 

[3wtf]

Tren

 

[Nitroyx]

Tren

whats wrong with it

 

[xenovia]

give me a better cycle and state ur arguments

I’m not gpt nigga, but I’m going to run 80 test, 80 tren, 300 mast, 9iu gh. That alone will make you feel so much better then whatever the fuck this “cycle” will make you feel.

 

[sebastzero]

yea isnt cerebrolysin expensive af?

faked a lot too. I’d get something to stimulate your brain at the least with tren

 

[3wtf]

whats wrong with it

Ts is js horrible its better to hop on test and better shi cuz tren is like dead tier for me

 

[Nitroyx]

I’m not gpt nigga, but I’m going to run 80 test, 80 tren, 300 mast, 9iu gh. That alone will make you feel so much better then whatever the fuck this “cycle” will make you feel.

so ur just saying some BS and giving me no arguments and also using 9iu gh, which is less than your body naturally produces when ur a teen and above 75kg

 

[xenovia]

Ts is js horrible its better to hop on test and better shi cuz tren is like dead tier for me

Tren is good, but why this retard plans to run it without a test base is beyond me.

 

[Nitroyx]

Ts is js horrible its better to hop on test and better shi cuz tren is like dead tier for me

ion see any argument in this

 

[3wtf]

ion see any argument in this

js lookup for results with it if y want to achieve like not appealing and js awful physique and more js hop on it i js dont recommend it

 

[Nitroyx]

Tren is good, but why this retard plans to run it without a test base is beyond me.

literally because of aromatization lol, then yes use an ai bluh bluh bluh, then im gonna keep my estrogen low which is literally gonna hinder bone forming. thats why im gonna use enclo because in studys it compares to exogenous test levels without the aromatization issue, why is literally everyone saying u need a test base

 

[Nitroyx]

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literally because of aromatization lol, then yes use an ai bluh bluh bluh, then im gonna keep my estrogen low which is literally gonna hinder bone forming. thats why im gonna use enclo because in studys it compares to exogenous test levels without the aromatization issue, why is literally everyone saying u need a test base

estrogen is also neuroprotective etc

 

[xenovia]

so ur just saying some BS and giving me no arguments and also using 9iu gh, which is less than your body naturally produces when ur a teen and above 75kg

Your body’s natural HGH production isn’t even comparable to exogenous HGH production because exogenous provides continuous stimulation. You’re fucking retarded

Enjoy running this so called “cycle”. I hope you end up even more handicapped from the neurotoxicity gained from the tren.

 

[Nitroyx]

js lookup for results with it if y want to achieve like not appealing and js awful physique and more js hop on it i js dont recommend it

what?

 

[3wtf]

Idk bro i would js stay at test and more but never tren ill hope test at 17y imma 15y rn

 

[Nitroyx]

Your body’s natural HGH production isn’t even comparable to exogenous HGH production because exogenous provides continuous stimulation. You’re fucking retarded

Enjoy running this so called “cycle”. I hope you end up even more handicapped from the neurotoxicity the tren will cause you.

LOL giving 0 arguments again fucking idiot , gh works via pulsatile release for a reason, continous gh exposure causes receptor desensitatzation, bodys own production is around 7-13 IU why would u pin 9 literally wasting money, secreatagoguges are just better retard, neurotoxicity yes, but im literally running around the same that u are running, your the idiot here

 

[Nitroyx]

Idk bro i would js stay at test and more but never tren ill hope test at 17y imma 15y rn

whats so bad abt tren bro its superior

 

[sebastzero]

you asked for suggestions and so far everyone is advising you run a test base lol

 

[Nitroyx]

you asked for suggestions and so far everyone is advising you run a test base lol

yes and all of them are loosing the discussion as u can clearly see

 

[sebastzero]

yes and all of them are loosing the discussion as u can clearly see

it’s your body bro do whatever you want

 

[Nitroyx]

it’s your body bro do whatever you want

yes and im doing it, those fucking retards telling me to hop on test base and then leaving the discussion
also check my new post

 

[sebastzero]

yes and im doing it, those fucking retards telling me to hop on test base and then leaving the discussion
also check my new post

what’s the goal of this “cycle” btw? bones?

 

[Nitroyx]

what’s the goal of this “cycle” btw? bones?

yes, but physique aswell