First cycle (TREN)

[Nitroyx]

Fucking hell why do I even bother.

You're running arguably the most suppressive compound that exists. Without a test base.

You need testosterone for normal bodily functions.

You're running the most neurotoxic steroid that exists, at the age of 17 during a critical age for your brain development.

You're running one of the strongest compounds that exists IN YOUR FIRST CYCLE, that should be reserved for competitors. Not a DYEL 17 year old.

Tren gives the most psychological issues, and you're doing it without a test base, which is going to make you feel like dogshit.

You're running the enanthate ester from the get go. NO ONE does this. No one ever does this. Everyone starts with Acetate because people have zero idea how tren affects them psychologically, and you want to have the option to clear it fast. Tren often get associated to being god with mental issues.

I feel like this entire thread is ragebait, because no one retarded enough to do this.

you need test for bodily functions (COMPLETELY ignores enclomiphene) yes ik tren is hardcore thats why its a microdose, idgaf if its one of the strongest compounds, my time is running out and this is not primarily for bodybuilding. Using a test base completely goes against my goals like i explained 1 million times

 

[Realism]

you need test for bodily functions (COMPLETELY ignores enclomiphene) yes ik tren is hardcore thats why its a microdose, idgaf if its one of the strongest compounds, my time is running out and this is not primarily for bodybuilding. Using a test base completely goes against my goals like i explained 1 million times

Have fun, I'll laugh at you. You asked for arguments, goes on to ignore everything.

 

[Nitroyx]

Have fun, I'll laugh at you.

and there he goes again 0 arguments

 

[Realism]

and there he goes again 0 arguments

I literally gave you a dozen you fucking retard.

 

[Nitroyx]

I literally gave you a dozen you fucking retard.

and i debunked them faggot yk how a discussion works? u gotta actually say smth to the thing i said

 

[Realism]

and i debunked them faggot yk how a discussion works? u gotta actually say smth to the thing i said

Looking forward to your bloods showing normal test levels running enclo on tren, lol.

 

[Nitroyx]

Looking forward to your bloods showing normal test levels running enclo on tren, lol.

studies show enclo reachers, exogenous test lvls but alr

 

[Realism]

studies show enclo reachers, exogenous test lvls but alr

Yeah, go on with your stupid plan and report back. Can't wait.

 

[Nitroyx]

Yeah, go on with your stupid plan and report back. Can't wait.

0 arguments?

 

[TrueOgreGymcel]

Well @Realism at least you tried. I tried too.

 

[Joeseminate]

Yeah, go on with your stupid plan and report back. Can't wait.

Well @Realism at least you tried. I tried too.

Let people run what they want to.

All information is out there, sometimes people have to learn from their mistakes if they wont listen to others

 

[TrueOgreGymcel]

Let people run what they want to.

All information is out there, sometimes people have to learn from their mistakes if they wont listen to others

True, agree to some extent. But with steroids it's a very serious topic, to me at least. I want to educate and inform newcomers instead of letting them run the risk of playing russian roulette with their life.

 

[Nitroyx]

True, agree to some extent. But with steroids it's a very serious topic, to me at least. I want to educate and inform newcomers instead of letting them run the risk of playing russian roulette with their life.

if u could really win in a discussion about this topic then i would think abt it, but yall just say some bs then have no arguments and leave

 

[infrainfra]

10 iu useless, teens produce that naturally but alright!

can u back this up? then just up the dose lol

 

[TrueOgreGymcel]

if u could really win in a discussion about this topic then i would think abt it, but yall just say some bs then have no arguments and leave

Listen smartass ; this isn't about you winning a retarded argument on the Interwebs like you see on Le Reddit. It's about your health and safety first. You are starting to get on my nerves with your pedantic replies.

 

[Nitroyx]

Listen smartass ; this isn't about you winning a retarded argument on the Interwebs like you see on Le Reddit. It's about your health and safety first. You are starting to get on my nerves with your pedantic replies.

im arguing using science also regarding my health, literally how stupid can a person be

 

[MediterraneanPill]

nah, problem is test always aromatizes its not dose dependent in a linear way, enclomiphene is exactly for that it keeps test lvl comparable to exogenous test lvls without suppressing lh and fsh and without aromatization

This is so low iq. Tren nukes your natural test. Taking a serm like enclo won't override that strong signal that tren gives to shut down test. Just run 70mg of test weekly and your e2 will stay low enough to stop growth plate closure. What you were planning to do would leave you with 0 test and 0 e2, which would make you hate your life.

 

[crn]

what the fuck is this kys

 

[Magicmagicians]

why

U are fucking retarded if u think enclo will over power tren suppresion, enclo struggles against ostarine, htf do u think itl react to tren

 

[scherba]

Valproic acid seems to work with tren induced mania and “roid rages”. Also horrible fucking cycle brah

 

[MediterraneanPill]

why not in studies it even shows comparable levels to exogenous test

bro enclo won't do shit if your suppressed. tren completely shuts down exogenous production. enclo amplifies the exogenous signal, but when your on androgens there is no signal to amplify.

 

[manuel355335]

Whats up guys, just came on here today to discuss my first cycle with yall in a few weeks ts should arrive:

tren enanthate
enclomiphene (no test base on purpose)
accutane
mk677 or cjc-1295 dac (no hgh on purpose)
p5p
zink
ashwangandha
berberine
taurine
tudca
omega 3
vitamin d3k2
magnesium
glycin

may add stronger compounds to minimize side effects, gonna have to wait how my body reacts
gonna start at 20mg a week, then up the dose until my blood markers get bad
gonna stay on for as long as i can

feel free do discuss with me or to give suggestions

Very very bad cycle