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Im 16 61kg rate my cycle + give advice

Main:

Test P 420mg weekly (60mg daily) for 16 weeks
HGH 6 IU

Support:

Telmisartan 40mg ED
Berberine 1000mg ED
Letrozole 0.25mg EOD/ED if needed
T3 hormone if needed
Cialis 20mg
No money left for HCG idk if i really need it at my age and cycle length. I can swap Cialis for HCG if needed

PCT:
Clomid 50mg + Nolvadex 40mg ED for 2 weeks, then Clomid 25mg ED + Nolvadex 20 mg ED for another 2 weeks, and if needed just finish with Nolvadex 20mg ed for 1-2 more weeks.

Most confusing part is the PCT, im unsure if i need both clomid and nolvadex and if my dosages are right
 
You lowkey are being too proactive you have lots of support which many of which is probably unnessacry I would use then more reactively when symptoms arrive just keep checking your blood pressure and respond when necessary you might drop your BP too low Cialis i also wouldnt take unless you notice and ED although you could be using it for a better pump idk tho I think its just a little too much which could do more damage then help
 
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I’d say at least add some liver + lipid support like injectable glutathione, citrus bergamot, and fish oil. Since you’re low on money you can use NAC instead of the glutathione.

Take aromasin inhibitors and things like telimisartan based off your actual estradiol levels and blood pressure, not symptoms.

You could also lower your cialis dose to 5-10mg, as that should be more than enough, and you’ll save money.

Why PCT though if you can just cruise?
 
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Im 16 61kg rate my cycle + give advice

Main:

Test P 420mg weekly (60mg daily) for 16 weeks
HGH 6 IU

Support:

Telmisartan 40mg ED
Berberine 1000mg ED
Letrozole 0.25mg EOD/ED if needed
T3 hormone if needed
Cialis 20mg
No money left for HCG idk if i really need it at my age and cycle length. I can swap Cialis for HCG if needed

PCT:
Clomid 50mg + Nolvadex 40mg ED for 2 weeks, then Clomid 25mg ED + Nolvadex 20 mg ED for another 2 weeks, and if needed just finish with Nolvadex 20mg ed for 1-2 more weeks.

Most confusing part is the PCT, im unsure if i need both clomid and nolvadex and if my dosages are right
No point in T3 tbh
Why berberine? you wont get diabetes from 3 months of GH [ik its a supplement but no point]
Letzorole probably wouldnt be needed, you are using test P most aromatization will be avoided [and use aromasin its a cycle]
Cialis pretty good
Hcg is fine pct isenough
For pct even clomid is enough jfl its a mix of enclo and some other stuff. Just do it till you recover test levels before cycle
 
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I’d say at least add some liver + lipid support like injectable glutathione, citrus bergamot, and fish oil. Since you’re low on money you can use NAC instead of the glutathione.

Take aromasin inhibitors and things like telimisartan based off your actual estradiol levels and blood pressure, not symptoms.

You could also lower your cialis dose to 5-10mg, as that should be more than enough, and you’ll save money.

Why PCT though if you can just cruise?
Why glutathione? he isnt using any oral steroids, his liver will be fine. dietary change is also enough
i understand NAC though since its just a suploement
 
No point in T3 tbh
Why berberine? you wont get diabetes from 3 months of GH [ik its a supplement but no point]
Letzorole probably wouldnt be needed, you are using test P most aromatization will be avoided [and use aromasin its a cycle]
Cialis pretty good
Hcg is fine pct isenough
For pct even clomid is enough jfl its a mix of enclo and some other stuff. Just do it till you recover test levels before cycle
mb i didnt mention it but i planned to run hgh for a year. Why not letrozole? Letrozole is the cheapest cuz its the most potent one.
 
Why glutathione? he isnt using any oral steroids, his liver will be fine. dietary change is also enough
i understand NAC though since its just a suploement
yea my diet is pretty good im on that ancestral/primal style diet
 
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I’d say at least add some liver + lipid support like injectable glutathione, citrus bergamot, and fish oil. Since you’re low on money you can use NAC instead of the glutathione.

Take aromasin inhibitors and things like telimisartan based off your actual estradiol levels and blood pressure, not symptoms.

You could also lower your cialis dose to 5-10mg, as that should be more than enough, and you’ll save money.

Why PCT though if you can just cruise?
PCT cuz i dont wanna stay on trt for the rest of my life
 
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Why glutathione? he isnt using any oral steroids, his liver will be fine. dietary change is also enough
i understand NAC though since its just a suploement
To help with oxidative stress especially if he’s planning to run more cycles, but yeah, you're right, it's not really a requirement.
 
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mb i didnt mention it but i planned to run hgh for a year. Why not letrozole? Letrozole is the cheapest cuz its the most potent one.
Makes sense in a price standpoint, but aromasin is safer if you are on cycle since it makes sure estrogen rebound fear almost none.
 
To help with oxidative stress especially if he’s planning to run more cycles, but yeah, you're right, it's not really a requirement.
NAC is precursor to glutathione btw, so it’s just more efficient to straight up inject glutathione.
 
No point in T3 tbh
Why berberine? you wont get diabetes from 3 months of GH [ik its a supplement but no point]
Letzorole probably wouldnt be needed, you are using test P most aromatization will be avoided [and use aromasin its a cycle]
Cialis pretty good
Hcg is fine pct isenough
For pct even clomid is enough jfl its a mix of enclo and some other stuff. Just do it till you recover test levels before cycle
You think metformine is better than berberine?
 
You think metformine is better than berberine?
Probably, it treats high BP rather than elevated blood sugar
that blood sugar being elevated is literally good. more igf
 

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