First date, what do you do?

[Deleted member 10536]

What I don't get is why don't you just ask her to fuck on tinder?

Tbh the second date girl was very shy/introverted. Seemed like a very nice girl in general. So that would seem highly inappropriate. Also am not a chad, so that doesn't work - flat out.
I've got 35 matches now and around 6 girls even replied. Just surprisingly two agreed on a date, which is very uncommon. I try to not talk too much on tinder, and try to ask them out on a date, if they go into a conversation.

 

[Deleted member 7776]

Tbh the second date girl was very shy/introverted. Seemed like a very nice girl in general. So that would seem highly inappropriate. Also am not a chad, so that doesn't work - flat out.
I've got 35 matches now and around 6 girls even replied. Just surprisingly two agreed on a date, which is very uncommon. I try to not talk too much on tinder, and try to ask them out on a date, if they go into a conversation.

Where do you live?

 

[Deleted member 10536]

gymceldoomer put it perfectly, you sound like you're analyzing ze data for ze answers to ze female! jfl. but seriously man you need to let loose and stop being neurotic. there's a time and place for neuroticism and that is not in the fucking dating world. neuroticism is the antithesis of sexy. so please, for your own sake, stop, and learn how to live in the moment with each individual girl.

I'm neurotic, in general - yes. I can see that. On the dates though? Not so much. I'm trying to analyse/understand it now, why I fail. During the dates I might be too formal/nice/gentle, as I said. I feel it's a fault of the girls though, as they don't give me an opening for something closer/intimate. They don't open up to me at all. They're like hard nuts and sort of cold and pushing back on me. They keep the conversation rather strict and they don't go into their own inner world. I do though, I try opening up and be warm to them - they don't reciprocate. Feel like I'm very unattractive to them, but why they agree to go on a date then...

 

[Deleted member 10104]

I'm neurotic, in general - yes. I can see that. On the dates though? Not so much. I'm trying to analyse/understand it now, why I fail. During the dates I might be too formal/nice/gentle, as I said. I feel it's a fault of the girls though, as they don't give me an opening for something closer/intimate. They don't open up to me at all. They're like hard nuts and sort of cold and pushing back on me. They keep the conversation rather strict and they don't go into their own inner world. I do though, I try opening up and be warm to them - they don't reciprocate. Feel like I'm very unattractive to them, but why they agree to go on a date then...

focus on physicality instead of their mental/emotional man.

do you kiss on dates? like tell me how physical you get

 

[Enfant terrible]

just talk about something
ask here stuff
by your self

 

[Deleted member 10536]

Where do you live?

Europe. I think hypergamy is running rampant here, but hypergamous girls don't match with me. I get the more shy/passive/introverted/worse looking girls. Imo, it just wouldn't work with the girls I match, besides 1-2. The slutwhores are very obvious from pictures alone, but as I said - I'm invisible to them.
Most girls just flat out never reply, so feel like the matches have been the spam swipes by the girls, without them looking at pics.

 

[Deleted member 7776]

Europe. I think hypergamy is running rampant here, but hypergamous girls don't match with me. I get the more shy/passive/introverted/worse looking girls. Imo, it just wouldn't work with the girls I match, besides 1-2. The slutwhores are very obvious from pictures alone, but as I said - I'm invisible to them.
Most girls just flat out never reply, so feel like the matches have been the spam swipes by the girls, without them looking at pics.

which country

 

[Deleted member 10536]

focus on physicality instead of their mental/emotional man.

do you kiss on dates? like tell me how physical you get

First date she gave me a handshake and I accidently leaned on her shoulder, while walking swayily. The second girl only slightly touched shoulders, sort of accidentally.
i can only dream of kisses, wtf.

 

[Deleted member 10536]

which country

Sorry, don't want to dox myself, you can never know.
Anyway, it should be pretty obvious. Blonde, blue eyes, tall people, cold. So whatever.

 

[Deleted member 7776]

Sorry, don't want to dox myself, you can never know.
Anyway, it should be pretty obvious. Blonde, blue eyes, tall people, cold. So whatever.

ah ok

i just ask them to fuck. if they say no oh well, if they say yes i fuck em

 

[Deleted member 10104]

First date she gave me a handshake and I accidently leaned on her shoulder, while walking swayily. The second girl only slightly touched shoulders, sort of accidentally.
i can only dream of kisses, wtf.

look at this fucking weirdo saying he's not neurotic when he literally doesn't even kiss on dates

you need to inject t bro. you need to be FUCKING FIENDING for that pussy. women want to feel wanted and there's nothing like feeling wanted when you cant stop your hand from going down their pants when you're making out. you just don't want it bad enough.

start kissing girls on first dates. at least try. get used to the concept of rejecting. i've been rejected 3 or 4 times in one date trying to kiss a girl. 5th time, kiss, and we bang. it's awkward, it's funny, who cares. you're probably alone anyway (if she's at your place). if you're in public, try to do it in a secluded area or super busy area where no one cares.

escalate.

this is why i recommend redpill to you fucks, ya'll are clueless and this is all basic redpill shit ngl

 

[Deleted member 10104]

ah ok

i just ask them to fuck. if they say no oh well, if they say yes i fuck em

even when you agree to fuck a girl, there's a series of steps you gotta go through when she comes over. why dont you tell op those steps so he knows?

 

[Deleted member 10536]

just talk about something
ask here stuff
by your self

I do that... Exactly.
Conversation goes on, but it's not very deep or intimate so to say, rather superficial. I do ask questions and about her, try to get the information and such.
I am being myself, which is imo a problem - I shouldn't be myself.

 

[nonserviam]

will treat them as they are

ltr-possible cute girl will get a coffee and see the humorist in me

sexy bitch would get the slayer side of me - more bragging and horny talk

I will american pyscho maxx and kill everyone if i stay khhv more this year

 

[Enfant terrible]

I do that... Exactly.
Conversation goes on, but it's not very deep or intimate so to say, rather superficial. I do ask questions and about her, try to get the information and such.
I am being myself, which is imo a problem - I shouldn't be myself.

than ditch her for someone more interesting

 

[Deleted member 10104]

I do that... Exactly.
Conversation goes on, but it's not very deep or intimate so to say, rather superficial. I do ask questions and about her, try to get the information and such.
I am being myself, which is imo a problem - I shouldn't be myself.

forget about that shit and start escalating physically dude.

 

[Mouthbreath]

Dont shower so she can smell your pheromones

 

[Deleted member 10104]

than ditch her for someone more interesting

stupid advice for such an inexperienced guy like op, each girl is a training session

 

[Deleted member 7776]

even when you agree to fuck a girl, there's a series of steps you gotta go through when she comes over. why dont you tell op those steps so he knows?

I greet her, I offer her a drink (non-alcoholic), I make small talk, get to know her a bit better, very generic questions. We ease into the sex, start with foreplay and then sex

 

[Deleted member 10536]

look at this fucking weirdo saying he's not neurotic when he literally doesn't even kiss on dates

you need to inject t bro. you need to be FUCKING FIENDING for that pussy. women want to feel wanted and there's nothing like feeling wanted when you cant stop your hand from going down their pants when you're making out. you just don't want it bad enough.

start kissing girls on first dates. at least try. get used to the concept of rejecting. i've been rejected 3 or 4 times in one date trying to kiss a girl. 5th time, kiss, and we bang. it's awkward, it's funny, who cares. you're probably alone anyway (if she's at your place). if you're in public, try to do it in a secluded area or super busy area where no one cares.

escalate.

this is why i recommend redpill to you fucks, ya'll are clueless and this is all basic redpill shit ngl

As I said, I get it, but it never seems appropriate. I do let them know I'm interested in them and want them, but they're so cold towards me. I often have to ask several times a bit more personal question, before they even answer. I feel like they're disgusted by me. Probably my looks and want to get out from the date asap. Maybe my pictures mislead them, Idk, it feels sort of bad, but I try to make them comfortable and open them up and talk to me about themselves.
I'll try to be more touchy next time I get the chance and try to invite mid-date so to say, to go to some place, to do something.
I'm sort of afraid to be too forthcoming, as I'm not looking for ons/sex. I'm looking for ltr, so I think going slower is better.

 

[KingOfRome]

Dates are not complicated. When I get a date, it's usually from the supermarket. I get my date, drive my date back to my place, and eat it right out of the package. Dates are sweet dried fruit from the Middle East. They are lovely.

 

[Deleted member 10104]

I greet her, I offer her a drink (non-alcoholic), I make small talk, get to know her a bit better, very generic questions. We ease into the sex, start with foreplay and then sex

easing into the sex part may confuse op

basically op it works like this

basic touches -> arm, shoulders, etc while flirting/making small talk. i always like to compare hand sizes as well, easy flirty thing to do and makes the girl feel small/cute.

kiss. i always pull back first. you should too.

keep kissing, make out.

start wondering her body with your hands

usually since youre on the couch this is where your take her to your bed

make out more/strip her/foreplay

do whatever foreplay you wanna do and then bang, rest is self explanatory.

 

[Eduardo DOV]

You guys have dates?

 

[Deleted member 10536]

than ditch her for someone more interesting

Beggars can't be a choosers. They ditch me anyway...
I only ever had 2 dates in my life and I'm probably older than you. So ye. I never reject an opportunity for even something.

 

[Enfant terrible]

Beggars can't be a choosers. They ditch me anyway...
I only ever had 2 dates in my life and I'm probably older than you. So ye. I never reject an opportunity for even something.

iam 23 how old are you?
also how many matches do you have in general?
No its good as a training to not waste an opportunity but only if you can have a conversation.

 

[Deleted member 10104]

As I said, I get it, but it never seems appropriate. I do let them know I'm interested in them and want them, but they're so cold towards me. I often have to ask several times a bit more personal question, before they even answer. I feel like they're disgusted by me. Probably my looks and want to get out from the date asap. Maybe my pictures mislead them, Idk, it feels sort of bad, but I try to make them comfortable and open them up and talk to me about themselves.
I'll try to be more touchy next time I get the chance and try to invite mid-date so to say, to go to some place, to do something.
I'm sort of afraid to be too forthcoming, as I'm not looking for ons/sex. I'm looking for ltr, so I think going slower is better.

youre thinking about it too much. just lean in for a fucking kiss when you're vibing. dont be afraid of awkward silences. stare at the bitch until she giggles and asks you what you're staring at. build tension. then just lean into the kiss man.

 

[nonserviam]

i always like to compare hand sizes as well

Manlets on suicide watch

 

[Deleted member 10536]

I greet her, I offer her a drink (non-alcoholic), I make small talk, get to know her a bit better, very generic questions. We ease into the sex, start with foreplay and then sex

That's what I try to do, except the drink and sex part... It never eases into anything more than a friendly nice chat, with her expression increasingly getting more gloomy and... Expresionless.

 

[Deleted member 10104]

That's what I try to do, except the drink and sex part... It never eases into anything more than a friendly nice chat, with her expression increasingly getting more gloomy and... Expresionless.

bruh tell me what you talk about jfl

 

[Deleted member 10104]

That's what I try to do, except the drink and sex part... It never eases into anything more than a friendly nice chat, with her expression increasingly getting more gloomy and... Expresionless.

tbh on your next date get a mic and put it in your ear and ill tell you what to fucking say

 

[Deleted member 10536]

easing into the sex part may confuse op

basically op it works like this

basic touches -> arm, shoulders, etc while flirting/making small talk. i always like to compare hand sizes as well, easy flirty thing to do and makes the girl feel small/cute.

kiss. i always pull back first. you should too.

keep kissing, make out.

start wondering her body with your hands

usually since youre on the couch this is where your take her to your bed

make out more/strip her/foreplay

do whatever foreplay you wanna do and then bang, rest is self explanatory.

Ye, I'm not confused by this. Idk how I'd go about the sex part itself, but it wouldn't be a problem I think, if the person I'm with is close to me/intimate. But random girl that you met 1 hour ago? Not so sure... Ye, I will try to be more physical from now on. Like I'll try grabbing her hand and analyse it. I adore girls hands, as they're so small and cute. Idk if that wouldn't be creepy/strange if I did that at the beginning. Maybe I should make it my objective of a date, to get her hand. Instead of just trying to have a nice conversation.

 

[Deleted member 10104]

Ye, I'm not confused by this. Idk how I'd go about the sex part itself, but it wouldn't be a problem I think, if the person I'm with is close to me/intimate. But random girl that you met 1 hour ago? Not so sure... Ye, I will try to be more physical from now on. Like I'll try grabbing her hand and analyse it. I adore girls hands, as they're so small and cute. Idk if that wouldn't be creepy/strange if I did that at the beginning. Maybe I should make it my objective of a date, to get her hand. Instead of just trying to have a nice conversation.

make youre objective kissing at the least if not having sex cmon pussy

 

[Deleted member 10536]

tbh on your next date get a mic and put it in your ear and ill tell you what to fucking say

You wouldn't understand the language tbh. But I'd be up for that otherwise. Girls can speak english, but I doubt they'd be enthusiastic/would find it strange. Rarely do they agree to talk in english, and I did ask many of them. Imo, I think they're insecure about their english skills.
Though, I might need something like that, but for a tinder text game instead, also much easier to do.

 

[Deleted member 10104]

You wouldn't understand the language tbh. But I'd be up for that otherwise. Girls can speak english, but I doubt they'd be enthusiastic/would find it strange. Rarely do they agree to talk in english, and I did ask many of them. Imo, I think they're insecure about their english skills.
Though, I might need something like that, but for a tinder text game instead, also much easier to do.

damn ive always wanted to do this tbh jfl

yeah i probably wouldnt understand

but i can help with text game or w/e

 

[Deleted member 10536]

bruh tell me what you talk about jfl

I outlined everything in my op.
I ask her stuff, talk about myself, try to involve hobbies, mundane things, work/school, etc. Places she went, places I went, things we do/did. Tbh feel like I get to talk about myself, they don't really like talking about themselves. I's prefer they talked more than me. but keeping a silencr might be even worse thing, there are silent breaks though, from time to time for a few minutes. Sometimes it goes a bit random, like history/science/technology/psychology. Sometimes something funny and dumb. Idk, seemed pretty normal to me, but apparently not.

 

[Deleted member 6695]

I don't date. I try to get her to fuck me comin to place, or it's bust.

You dont fuck at all gook lover

 

[Deleted member 7776]

You dont fuck at all gook lover

40 slays in 7 years keep barking

 

[Deleted member 10536]

youre thinking about it too much. just lean in for a fucking kiss when you're vibing. dont be afraid of awkward silences. stare at the bitch until she giggles and asks you what you're staring at. build tension. then just lean into the kiss man.

Yee I should do the staring game, be more playful. That's the thing though, it's never "vibing"... I lack this playfulness in general, I'm probably a bit too serious, as a person in general. I'm there with an intention of ltr/romantic relationship, so...

 

[Deleted member 10104]

I outlined everything in my op.
I ask her stuff, talk about myself, try to involve hobbies, mundane things, work/school, etc. Places she went, places I went, things we do/did. Tbh feel like I get to talk about myself, they don't really like talking about themselves. I's prefer they talked more than me. but keeping a silencr might be even worse thing, there are silent breaks though, from time to time for a few minutes. Sometimes it goes a bit random, like history/science/technology/psychology. Sometimes something funny and dumb. Idk, seemed pretty normal to me, but apparently not.

you cant just keep talking forever.

you really need to do a full course on redpill shit man. get to reading. there's just so much basic shit you're doing wrong and so much shit you don't understand.

god it feels good to be naturally interested in human psychology in times like this.

 

[Deleted member 10536]

iam 23 how old are you?
also how many matches do you have in general?
No its good as a training to not waste an opportunity but only if you can have a conversation.

I'm older than you. Now I've got 35 matches. 6~girls went into conversation. 2 agreed on a date. I've went to one of those dates already on sunday. I've sent her a message yesterday on tinder, but she hasn't replied - never will tbh. It's over. She said she'd like to meet again, at the end, but I know it was a lie and she was just trying to be nice. I'll try messaging her once again a few days later and delete afterwards if no reply.
Tbh I haven't messaged all the girls yet, but I did message all the girls which seemed attractive to me/had something in bio. Other girls are unattractive/no bio/long distance. Focused on my own city girls.

 

[Deleted member 6695]

40 slays in 7 years keep barking

How many were white?

 

[Deleted member 7776]

How many were white?

Well should I consider latinas white?

 

[Enfant terrible]

Yee I should do the staring game, be more playful. That's the thing though, it's never "vibing"... I lack this playfulness in general, I'm probably a bit too serious, as a person in general. I'm there with an intention of ltr/romantic relationship, so...

if you're not vibing don't try to escalate

 

[Deleted member 10536]

you cant just keep talking forever.

you really need to do a full course on redpill shit man. get to reading. there's just so much basic shit you're doing wrong and so much shit you don't understand.

god it feels good to be naturally interested in human psychology in times like this.

I do/did read. Maybe I can't apply. I've been rotting these forums for years tbh.
I've been getting 0-2 matches years ago on tinder.
Now I've got 35. Never in my life I had this many before, so it works whatever I do. But still no real results. But maybe I'm just lucky/tinder became that much more popular over here (city of 200k~)
Also why I made the thread...

 

[Deleted member 10536]

if you're not vibing don't try to escalate

I agree. That's the problem I have and the other dude doesn't really get it, but it's exactly what's happening and imo it's never a mood to escalate. This is the problem.
It would seem very creepy to go for a kiss tbh, considering how my dates went so far. 100% autistic behaviour in this case, imo. There's something really missing as a prerequisite for even going for a kiss.

 

[Deleted member 6695]

Well should I consider latinas white?

Hmmm idk

 

[Deleted member 10104]

I do/did read. Maybe I can't apply. I've been rotting these forums for years tbh.
I've been getting 0-2 matches years ago on tinder.
Now I've got 35. Never in my life I had this many before, so it works whatever I do. But still no real results. But maybe I'm just lucky/tinder became that much more popular over here (city of 200k~)
Also why I made the thread...

you dont apply 100%



shitty subreddit and etc but the gist of it is true.

 

[Deleted member 10104]

I agree. That's the problem I have and the other dude doesn't really get it, but it's exactly what's happening and imo it's never a mood to escalate. This is the problem.
It would seem very creepy to go for a kiss tbh, considering how my dates went so far. 100% autistic behaviour in this case, imo. There's something really missing as a prerequisite for even going for a kiss.

i understand it completely you idiot, which is why is aid it's fine to get rejected. you getting rejected will get you out of your headspace and let you vibe with other girls in the future. it should make you less high inhib. at least, in theory. esxposure therapy is legit.

 

[Deleted member 7776]

Hmmm idk

anyway 25 asians 15 latinas

 

[Deleted member 7098]

read Amnesia tinder adventure threads, his approach is smooth as fuck once they are at his place

his dating skills are A-Game