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Overview & Goals

This is my first anabolic gear cycle. The objective is a transformation focused on building high-quality lean muscle tissue, eliminating facial bloat, and optimizing skin clarity and facial features.

Biometrics & Training Context

Age: 18 years, 3 months

Height: 178 cm

Weight: 65 kg

Body Fat: ~10–12%

Diet & Nutrition: Daily intake of 3,100 kcal (+300 kcal surplus). Protein: 120–180g/day. Carbohydrates: 250g on rest days, 400g on training days.

Daily Activity: 10,000–25,000 steps daily.

Training Split (5x/week):

Monday: Back, Biceps, Rear Delts

Tuesday: Rest

Wednesday: Chest, Triceps, Side Delts, Front Delts

Thursday: Rest

Friday: Back, Biceps, Rear Delts, Lower Back

Saturday: Chest, Triceps, Side Delts, Forearms

Sunday: Legs

Current Protocol

Anabolics & Hormones

Testosterone Enanthate: 250 mg/week (Divided into 125 mg doses twice weekly: Monday morning and Thursday evening).

HGH (Somatropin): 4 IU daily (Split: 2 IU AM on an empty stomach / 2 IU Post-workout).

Note: I am running HGH with the intent to stimulate bone growth/remodeling in the face (mandible, chin, zygos) and potential height expansion. If more HGH (up to 8 IU daily) is required for structural bone growth, let me know in the replies.

Peptides

Retatrutide: 1 mg weekly.

Melanotan-1 (MT-1): 150 mcg daily.

MOTS-c: Mitochondrial support protocol.

GHK-Cu: Subcutaneous daily for collagen synthesis and skin quality.

Glutathione: Subcutaneous daily for liver protection and skin tone.

Pharmaceuticals & Anti-Bloat

Telmisartan: 20–40 mg daily (Blood pressure control, PPAR-\bm{\gamma}activation, deep facial de-bloat).

Accutane: 5 mg daily (Low-dose androgenic acne prevention).

Oral Minoxidil: 5 mg daily (Systemic hair density).

Topical Minoxidil (5%): Applied directly to eyebrows for density.

Bimatoprost: Applied to eyelashes only.

Tretinoin: 0.025% cream (Night application).

Azelaic Acid: 15% gel (Morning application).

Procedures

Lemon Bottle: Targeted submental mesotherapy for jawline definition.

Ancillaries, AI & PCT Schedule

Aromatase Inhibitor (AI) Protocol: Aromasin (Exemestane)

To prevent estrogenic side effects (gyno, facial bloat) without crashing estrogen levels on a 250 mg Test E dose:

Starting Dose: 6.25 mg (1/4 tablet) taken on injection days (Monday and Thursday), starting from Week 3.

Adjustment: Increased to 12.5 mg on injection days only if high-estrogen symptoms (itchy/sensitive nipples, fluid retention) appear.

Intra-Cycle Support: HCG

Dosage: 500 IU/week (Split into 250 IU on Monday and 250 IU on Thursday, injected subcutaneously alongside Test E) to maintain testicular function and speed up recovery.

Post Cycle Therapy (PCT) Schedule: Nolvadex (Tamoxifen)

Because Testosterone Enanthate has a long ester, PCT begins 14 days after the final Test E injection to allow exogenous hormones to clear the system.

Weeks 1–2 Post-Cycle (Clearing Phase): Stop Test E. Continue HCG at 250 IU twice weekly.

Weeks 3–6 (PCT Start - Weeks 1–4 of Nolvadex): 20 mg Nolvadex daily (taken every morning).

Weeks 7–8 (PCT Finish - Weeks 5–6 of Nolvadex): 10 mg Nolvadex daily (taken every morning).

Daily Supplements

Morning (With fat source): Vitamin D3 + K2

Dinner: Magnesium + Zinc

Post-Workout / Evening: Creatine + Calcium

Questions for the Community

1. Stack Rating & Optimizations: How would you rate this protocol for a first-time gear cycle? Are there any overlapping compounds or efficiency tweaks you would suggest?

2. HGH & Bone Growth: Is 4 IU daily sufficient for noticeable facial bone remodeling (mandible/zygos) or height gains at 18, or is scaling up to 8 IU daily necessary?

3. Expectations: What realistic physical and cosmetic shifts should be anticipated over a 15-week run?
 

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Overview & Goals

This is my first anabolic gear cycle. The objective is a transformation focused on building high-quality lean muscle tissue, eliminating facial bloat, and optimizing skin clarity and facial features.

Biometrics & Training Context

Age: 18 years, 3 months

Height: 178 cm

Weight: 65 kg

Body Fat: ~10–12%

Diet & Nutrition: Daily intake of 3,100 kcal (+300 kcal surplus). Protein: 120–180g/day. Carbohydrates: 250g on rest days, 400g on training days.

Daily Activity: 10,000–25,000 steps daily.

Training Split (5x/week):

Monday: Back, Biceps, Rear Delts

Tuesday: Rest

Wednesday: Chest, Triceps, Side Delts, Front Delts

Thursday: Rest

Friday: Back, Biceps, Rear Delts, Lower Back

Saturday: Chest, Triceps, Side Delts, Forearms

Sunday: Legs

Current Protocol

Anabolics & Hormones

Testosterone Enanthate: 250 mg/week (Divided into 125 mg doses twice weekly: Monday morning and Thursday evening).

HGH (Somatropin): 4 IU daily (Split: 2 IU AM on an empty stomach / 2 IU Post-workout).

Note: I am running HGH with the intent to stimulate bone growth/remodeling in the face (mandible, chin, zygos) and potential height expansion. If more HGH (up to 8 IU daily) is required for structural bone growth, let me know in the replies.

Peptides

Retatrutide: 1 mg weekly.

Melanotan-1 (MT-1): 150 mcg daily.

MOTS-c: Mitochondrial support protocol.

GHK-Cu: Subcutaneous daily for collagen synthesis and skin quality.

Glutathione: Subcutaneous daily for liver protection and skin tone.

Pharmaceuticals & Anti-Bloat

Telmisartan: 20–40 mg daily (Blood pressure control, PPAR-\bm{\gamma}activation, deep facial de-bloat).

Accutane: 5 mg daily (Low-dose androgenic acne prevention).

Oral Minoxidil: 5 mg daily (Systemic hair density).

Topical Minoxidil (5%): Applied directly to eyebrows for density.

Bimatoprost: Applied to eyelashes only.

Tretinoin: 0.025% cream (Night application).

Azelaic Acid: 15% gel (Morning application).

Procedures

Lemon Bottle: Targeted submental mesotherapy for jawline definition.

Ancillaries, AI & PCT Schedule

Aromatase Inhibitor (AI) Protocol: Aromasin (Exemestane)

To prevent estrogenic side effects (gyno, facial bloat) without crashing estrogen levels on a 250 mg Test E dose:

Starting Dose: 6.25 mg (1/4 tablet) taken on injection days (Monday and Thursday), starting from Week 3.

Adjustment: Increased to 12.5 mg on injection days only if high-estrogen symptoms (itchy/sensitive nipples, fluid retention) appear.

Intra-Cycle Support: HCG

Dosage: 500 IU/week (Split into 250 IU on Monday and 250 IU on Thursday, injected subcutaneously alongside Test E) to maintain testicular function and speed up recovery.

Post Cycle Therapy (PCT) Schedule: Nolvadex (Tamoxifen)

Because Testosterone Enanthate has a long ester, PCT begins 14 days after the final Test E injection to allow exogenous hormones to clear the system.

Weeks 1–2 Post-Cycle (Clearing Phase): Stop Test E. Continue HCG at 250 IU twice weekly.

Weeks 3–6 (PCT Start - Weeks 1–4 of Nolvadex): 20 mg Nolvadex daily (taken every morning).

Weeks 7–8 (PCT Finish - Weeks 5–6 of Nolvadex): 10 mg Nolvadex daily (taken every morning).

Daily Supplements

Morning (With fat source): Vitamin D3 + K2

Dinner: Magnesium + Zinc

Post-Workout / Evening: Creatine + Calcium

Questions for the Community

1. Stack Rating & Optimizations: How would you rate this protocol for a first-time gear cycle? Are there any overlapping compounds or efficiency tweaks you would suggest?

2. HGH & Bone Growth: Is 4 IU daily sufficient for noticeable facial bone remodeling (mandible/zygos) or height gains at 18, or is scaling up to 8 IU daily necessary?

3. Expectations: What realistic physical and cosmetic shifts should be anticipated over a 15-week run?
dnr but nice dedication gl. do daily test pins and atleast double gh dose
 
Even on first cycle? By double you mean 8ui instead of 16 I hope? And why daily test
i will run my first "cycle" for 8-12 months then trt dose. 15 weeks seems very short. daily test for no e2 spikes and less sides. at very lowest 8 iu. i am running 14iu.
 
Overview & Goals

This is my first anabolic gear cycle. The objective is a transformation focused on building high-quality lean muscle tissue, eliminating facial bloat, and optimizing skin clarity and facial features.

Biometrics & Training Context

Age: 18 years, 3 months

Height: 178 cm

Weight: 65 kg

Body Fat: ~10–12%

Diet & Nutrition: Daily intake of 3,100 kcal (+300 kcal surplus). Protein: 120–180g/day. Carbohydrates: 250g on rest days, 400g on training days.

Daily Activity: 10,000–25,000 steps daily.

Training Split (5x/week):

Monday: Back, Biceps, Rear Delts

Tuesday: Rest

Wednesday: Chest, Triceps, Side Delts, Front Delts

Thursday: Rest

Friday: Back, Biceps, Rear Delts, Lower Back

Saturday: Chest, Triceps, Side Delts, Forearms

Sunday: Legs

Current Protocol

Anabolics & Hormones

Testosterone Enanthate: 250 mg/week (Divided into 125 mg doses twice weekly: Monday morning and Thursday evening).

HGH (Somatropin): 4 IU daily (Split: 2 IU AM on an empty stomach / 2 IU Post-workout).

Note: I am running HGH with the intent to stimulate bone growth/remodeling in the face (mandible, chin, zygos) and potential height expansion. If more HGH (up to 8 IU daily) is required for structural bone growth, let me know in the replies.

Peptides

Retatrutide: 1 mg weekly.

Melanotan-1 (MT-1): 150 mcg daily.

MOTS-c: Mitochondrial support protocol.

GHK-Cu: Subcutaneous daily for collagen synthesis and skin quality.

Glutathione: Subcutaneous daily for liver protection and skin tone.

Pharmaceuticals & Anti-Bloat

Telmisartan: 20–40 mg daily (Blood pressure control, PPAR-\bm{\gamma}activation, deep facial de-bloat).

Accutane: 5 mg daily (Low-dose androgenic acne prevention).

Oral Minoxidil: 5 mg daily (Systemic hair density).

Topical Minoxidil (5%): Applied directly to eyebrows for density.

Bimatoprost: Applied to eyelashes only.

Tretinoin: 0.025% cream (Night application).

Azelaic Acid: 15% gel (Morning application).

Procedures

Lemon Bottle: Targeted submental mesotherapy for jawline definition.

Ancillaries, AI & PCT Schedule

Aromatase Inhibitor (AI) Protocol: Aromasin (Exemestane)

To prevent estrogenic side effects (gyno, facial bloat) without crashing estrogen levels on a 250 mg Test E dose:

Starting Dose: 6.25 mg (1/4 tablet) taken on injection days (Monday and Thursday), starting from Week 3.

Adjustment: Increased to 12.5 mg on injection days only if high-estrogen symptoms (itchy/sensitive nipples, fluid retention) appear.

Intra-Cycle Support: HCG

Dosage: 500 IU/week (Split into 250 IU on Monday and 250 IU on Thursday, injected subcutaneously alongside Test E) to maintain testicular function and speed up recovery.

Post Cycle Therapy (PCT) Schedule: Nolvadex (Tamoxifen)

Because Testosterone Enanthate has a long ester, PCT begins 14 days after the final Test E injection to allow exogenous hormones to clear the system.

Weeks 1–2 Post-Cycle (Clearing Phase): Stop Test E. Continue HCG at 250 IU twice weekly.

Weeks 3–6 (PCT Start - Weeks 1–4 of Nolvadex): 20 mg Nolvadex daily (taken every morning).

Weeks 7–8 (PCT Finish - Weeks 5–6 of Nolvadex): 10 mg Nolvadex daily (taken every morning).

Daily Supplements

Morning (With fat source): Vitamin D3 + K2

Dinner: Magnesium + Zinc

Post-Workout / Evening: Creatine + Calcium

Questions for the Community

1. Stack Rating & Optimizations: How would you rate this protocol for a first-time gear cycle? Are there any overlapping compounds or efficiency tweaks you would suggest?

2. HGH & Bone Growth: Is 4 IU daily sufficient for noticeable facial bone remodeling (mandible/zygos) or height gains at 18, or is scaling up to 8 IU daily necessary?

3. Expectations: What realistic physical and cosmetic shifts should be anticipated over a 15-week run?
is the guy in the attachments you?
 
i will run my first "cycle" for 8-12 months then trt dose. 15 weeks seems very short. daily test for no e2 spikes and less sides. at very lowest 8 iu. i am running 14iu.
so u don’t plan to come off ?

are u using hcg year around or no need bcs idk if it’s good to run it year around or just for pct so u dont become desinsibilzed
 
You mog! No reason for you to be here. 95% of women will easily go for you.
Thank you brother, unfortunately this is not the case I will make a more documented post later this week but i went on a walk today and yesterday in Tenerife (2-3 hour walk) in one of the most busy areas to see if i get girl to look at me, none of them did. Not saying I’m not good looking but this means I’m not where I want to be.
Just to be clear I’m not Frauding in any pics in my opinion i look better irl.
 
so u don’t plan to come off ?

are u using hcg year around or no need bcs idk if it’s good to run it year around or just for pct so u dont become desinsibilzed
Just during my cycle so i won’t have any ball problems
 
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Thank you brother, unfortunately this is not the case I will make a more documented post later this week but i went on a walk today and yesterday in Tenerife (2-3 hour walk) in one of the most busy areas to see if i get girl to look at me, none of them did. Not saying I’m not good looking but this means I’m not where I want to be.
Just to be clear I’m not Frauding in any pics in my opinion i look better irl.
dnr
 
Freezing my sperm at a clinic on the 11.8. pretty unnecessary and expensive due to me already being infertile rn jfl
I don’t plan to come off just blast, cruise. Might cycle hcg once a year but not caring about it atm
so u don’t plan to come off ?

are u using hcg year around or no need bcs idk if it’s good to run it year around or just for pct so u dont become desinsibilzed
 
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Freezing my sperm at a clinic on the 11.8. pretty unnecessary and expensive due to me already being infertile rn jfl
I don’t plan to come off just blast, cruise. Might cycle hcg once a year but not caring about it atm
wym ur infertile rn ?

thought u not on rn
why u plan to hop on are ur natty levels bad or just for gains ?

its expensive to freeze the sperm right ?
 
Just during my cycle so i won’t have any ball problems
but nobody cares how big ur balls are also it’s not like they go from big to not visible and it’s also expensive so idk

would use it only when u plan to come off or maybe cycle it
 
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wym ur infertile rn ?

thought u not on rn
why u plan to hop on are ur natty levels bad or just for gains ?

its expensive to freeze the sperm right ?
Im infertile rn because no bitch would like to have kids with my look at my fucking face
Freezing it incase some insane bitch decides to want kids for me for some reason

Only on hgh rn getting on test in 1.5 weeks already got everything at home

550€ for consultation, sperm study + 6 months of storage.

In 6 months it costs 180€ every 6 months for storage
 
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wym ur infertile rn ?

thought u not on rn
why u plan to hop on are ur natty levels bad or just for gains ?

its expensive to freeze the sperm right ?
Natty levels are average hopping on for muscle, frame and hoping for some bone growth
 
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Overview & Goals

This is my first anabolic gear cycle. The objective is a transformation focused on building high-quality lean muscle tissue, eliminating facial bloat, and optimizing skin clarity and facial features.

Biometrics & Training Context

Age: 18 years, 3 months

Height: 178 cm

Weight: 65 kg

Body Fat: ~10–12%

Diet & Nutrition: Daily intake of 3,100 kcal (+300 kcal surplus). Protein: 120–180g/day. Carbohydrates: 250g on rest days, 400g on training days.

Daily Activity: 10,000–25,000 steps daily.

Training Split (5x/week):

Monday: Back, Biceps, Rear Delts

Tuesday: Rest

Wednesday: Chest, Triceps, Side Delts, Front Delts

Thursday: Rest

Friday: Back, Biceps, Rear Delts, Lower Back

Saturday: Chest, Triceps, Side Delts, Forearms

Sunday: Legs

Current Protocol

Anabolics & Hormones

Testosterone Enanthate: 250 mg/week (Divided into 125 mg doses twice weekly: Monday morning and Thursday evening).

HGH (Somatropin): 4 IU daily (Split: 2 IU AM on an empty stomach / 2 IU Post-workout).

Note: I am running HGH with the intent to stimulate bone growth/remodeling in the face (mandible, chin, zygos) and potential height expansion. If more HGH (up to 8 IU daily) is required for structural bone growth, let me know in the replies.

Peptides

Retatrutide: 1 mg weekly.

Melanotan-1 (MT-1): 150 mcg daily.

MOTS-c: Mitochondrial support protocol.

GHK-Cu: Subcutaneous daily for collagen synthesis and skin quality.

Glutathione: Subcutaneous daily for liver protection and skin tone.

Pharmaceuticals & Anti-Bloat

Telmisartan: 20–40 mg daily (Blood pressure control, PPAR-\bm{\gamma}activation, deep facial de-bloat).

Accutane: 5 mg daily (Low-dose androgenic acne prevention).

Oral Minoxidil: 5 mg daily (Systemic hair density).

Topical Minoxidil (5%): Applied directly to eyebrows for density.

Bimatoprost: Applied to eyelashes only.

Tretinoin: 0.025% cream (Night application).

Azelaic Acid: 15% gel (Morning application).

Procedures

Lemon Bottle: Targeted submental mesotherapy for jawline definition.

Ancillaries, AI & PCT Schedule

Aromatase Inhibitor (AI) Protocol: Aromasin (Exemestane)

To prevent estrogenic side effects (gyno, facial bloat) without crashing estrogen levels on a 250 mg Test E dose:

Starting Dose: 6.25 mg (1/4 tablet) taken on injection days (Monday and Thursday), starting from Week 3.

Adjustment: Increased to 12.5 mg on injection days only if high-estrogen symptoms (itchy/sensitive nipples, fluid retention) appear.

Intra-Cycle Support: HCG

Dosage: 500 IU/week (Split into 250 IU on Monday and 250 IU on Thursday, injected subcutaneously alongside Test E) to maintain testicular function and speed up recovery.

Post Cycle Therapy (PCT) Schedule: Nolvadex (Tamoxifen)

Because Testosterone Enanthate has a long ester, PCT begins 14 days after the final Test E injection to allow exogenous hormones to clear the system.

Weeks 1–2 Post-Cycle (Clearing Phase): Stop Test E. Continue HCG at 250 IU twice weekly.

Weeks 3–6 (PCT Start - Weeks 1–4 of Nolvadex): 20 mg Nolvadex daily (taken every morning).

Weeks 7–8 (PCT Finish - Weeks 5–6 of Nolvadex): 10 mg Nolvadex daily (taken every morning).

Daily Supplements

Morning (With fat source): Vitamin D3 + K2

Dinner: Magnesium + Zinc

Post-Workout / Evening: Creatine + Calcium

Questions for the Community

1. Stack Rating & Optimizations: How would you rate this protocol for a first-time gear cycle? Are there any overlapping compounds or efficiency tweaks you would suggest?

2. HGH & Bone Growth: Is 4 IU daily sufficient for noticeable facial bone remodeling (mandible/zygos) or height gains at 18, or is scaling up to 8 IU daily necessary?

3. Expectations: What realistic physical and cosmetic shifts should be anticipated over a 15-week run?
for heightyou need more than 12/14 uis
 
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Im infertile rn because no bitch would like to have kids with my look at my fucking face
Freezing it incase some insane bitch decides to want kids for me for some reason

Only on hgh rn getting on test in 1.5 weeks already got everything at home

550€ for consultation, sperm study + 6 months of storage.

In 6 months it costs 180€ every 6 months for storage
damn bro that gets expensive with time

why u don’t come off with hcg in case u decide to have kids in the future ?

even bodybuilders got
kids without freezing their sperm i mean it’s good but idk if it’s necessary
 
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damn bro that gets expensive with time

why u don’t come off with hcg in case u decide to have kids in the future ?

even bodybuilders got
kids without freezing their sperm i mean it’s good but idk if it’s necessary
I don’t want to stop taking test just to be able to get kids
 
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I don’t want to stop taking test just to be able to get kids
but it’s just for a short period of time with hcg / hmg u can even stay on trt so idk if it’s necessary to freeze sperm because it gets expensive with time

also many girls are afraid of the idea of frozen sperm being introduced directly into the uterus.
 
Ja Bruder
bro ich weiß halt nicht ob es das echt wert ist , weil meine natty werte halt schon sehr gut sind und die aufzugeben ohne zu wissen ob ich sie jemals wieder back bekomme idk

hab sogar test spritzen etc. schon da aber habe vor den blutbild geholt

denke auch nicht dass wenn ich eine frau und kinder irgendwann haben sollte noch on bleiben will
 
also many girls are afraid of the idea of frozen sperm being introduced directly into the uterus.
Very true, if she really loved me though she’d be fine with it.
Just want to be extra safe but idk if it’s even worth it. My appointment with the doctor is already scheduled, i could still cancel it though.
I mean I have exactly nothing to lose
 
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bro ich weiß halt nicht ob es das echt wert ist , weil meine natty werte halt schon sehr gut sind und die aufzugeben ohne zu wissen ob ich sie jemals wieder back bekomme idk

hab sogar test spritzen etc. schon da aber habe vor den blutbild geholt

denke auch nicht dass wenn ich eine frau und kinder irgendwann haben sollte noch on bleiben will
Mach wie du denkst Bruder meiner Meinung nach kann man die besten natty werte haben und exogenes Testosteron würde es immernoch wert sein
 
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Very true, if she really loved me though she’d be fine with it.
frfr , though finding a girl these days who’d love u that much that she’d agree to get pregnant using frozen sperm is basically like playing the lottery; the odds are about the same. You know how girls are these day most of them wouldn't even understand the concept of artificial insemination, let alone go through with it.
 
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Overview & Goals

This is my first anabolic gear cycle. The objective is a transformation focused on building high-quality lean muscle tissue, eliminating facial bloat, and optimizing skin clarity and facial features.

Biometrics & Training Context

Age: 18 years, 3 months

Height: 178 cm

Weight: 65 kg

Body Fat: ~10–12%

Diet & Nutrition: Daily intake of 3,100 kcal (+300 kcal surplus). Protein: 120–180g/day. Carbohydrates: 250g on rest days, 400g on training days.

Daily Activity: 10,000–25,000 steps daily.

Training Split (5x/week):

Monday: Back, Biceps, Rear Delts

Tuesday: Rest

Wednesday: Chest, Triceps, Side Delts, Front Delts

Thursday: Rest

Friday: Back, Biceps, Rear Delts, Lower Back

Saturday: Chest, Triceps, Side Delts, Forearms

Sunday: Legs

Current Protocol

Anabolics & Hormones

Testosterone Enanthate: 250 mg/week (Divided into 125 mg doses twice weekly: Monday morning and Thursday evening).

HGH (Somatropin): 4 IU daily (Split: 2 IU AM on an empty stomach / 2 IU Post-workout).

Note: I am running HGH with the intent to stimulate bone growth/remodeling in the face (mandible, chin, zygos) and potential height expansion. If more HGH (up to 8 IU daily) is required for structural bone growth, let me know in the replies.

Peptides

Retatrutide: 1 mg weekly.

Melanotan-1 (MT-1): 150 mcg daily.

MOTS-c: Mitochondrial support protocol.

GHK-Cu: Subcutaneous daily for collagen synthesis and skin quality.

Glutathione: Subcutaneous daily for liver protection and skin tone.

Pharmaceuticals & Anti-Bloat

Telmisartan: 20–40 mg daily (Blood pressure control, PPAR-\bm{\gamma}activation, deep facial de-bloat).

Accutane: 5 mg daily (Low-dose androgenic acne prevention).

Oral Minoxidil: 5 mg daily (Systemic hair density).

Topical Minoxidil (5%): Applied directly to eyebrows for density.

Bimatoprost: Applied to eyelashes only.

Tretinoin: 0.025% cream (Night application).

Azelaic Acid: 15% gel (Morning application).

Procedures

Lemon Bottle: Targeted submental mesotherapy for jawline definition.

Ancillaries, AI & PCT Schedule

Aromatase Inhibitor (AI) Protocol: Aromasin (Exemestane)

To prevent estrogenic side effects (gyno, facial bloat) without crashing estrogen levels on a 250 mg Test E dose:

Starting Dose: 6.25 mg (1/4 tablet) taken on injection days (Monday and Thursday), starting from Week 3.

Adjustment: Increased to 12.5 mg on injection days only if high-estrogen symptoms (itchy/sensitive nipples, fluid retention) appear.

Intra-Cycle Support: HCG

Dosage: 500 IU/week (Split into 250 IU on Monday and 250 IU on Thursday, injected subcutaneously alongside Test E) to maintain testicular function and speed up recovery.

Post Cycle Therapy (PCT) Schedule: Nolvadex (Tamoxifen)

Because Testosterone Enanthate has a long ester, PCT begins 14 days after the final Test E injection to allow exogenous hormones to clear the system.

Weeks 1–2 Post-Cycle (Clearing Phase): Stop Test E. Continue HCG at 250 IU twice weekly.

Weeks 3–6 (PCT Start - Weeks 1–4 of Nolvadex): 20 mg Nolvadex daily (taken every morning).

Weeks 7–8 (PCT Finish - Weeks 5–6 of Nolvadex): 10 mg Nolvadex daily (taken every morning).

Daily Supplements

Morning (With fat source): Vitamin D3 + K2

Dinner: Magnesium + Zinc

Post-Workout / Evening: Creatine + Calcium

Questions for the Community

1. Stack Rating & Optimizations: How would you rate this protocol for a first-time gear cycle? Are there any overlapping compounds or efficiency tweaks you would suggest?

2. HGH & Bone Growth: Is 4 IU daily sufficient for noticeable facial bone remodeling (mandible/zygos) or height gains at 18, or is scaling up to 8 IU daily necessary?

3. Expectations: What realistic physical and cosmetic shifts should be anticipated over a 15-week run?
Mirin the effort put into the post but I see a problem..

Why doing pct? You will not have kids any time soon, if anything, just do the typical “Cruise, cycle, cruise, cycle”

Id also say to use hcg while being on test so your balls don’t shrink through atrophy, and just be on test and hcg forever (sounds long but low dosages of test and hcg + bought in bulk will solve that out)
 
Freezing my sperm at a clinic on the 11.8. pretty unnecessary and expensive due to me already being infertile rn jfl
I don’t plan to come off just blast, cruise. Might cycle hcg once a year but not caring about it atm

Mirin the effort put into the post but I see a problem..

Why doing pct? You will not have kids any time soon, if anything, just do the typical “Cruise, cycle, cruise, cycle”

Id also say to use hcg while being on test so your balls don’t shrink through atrophy, and just be on test and hcg forever (sounds long but low dosages of test and hcg + bought in bulk will solve that out)
You got a point there and this is deff something I am considering but just like peptides are the step up to gear my 4 month cycle will be a step up to cruising im
99% sure I will stay on test an hcg the idea of a cycle is just a step up.
 
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