First Post, Rate my First Cycle Stack

[papaya125]

Bicycle

Hello, first post on here after lurking around for a while. Planning on hopping on my first cycle soon and was wondering if I could get some ratings on my stack and any pointers on how to improve it. My goals are frame, muscle mass, and potentially some facial dimorphism gains but not expecting too much since my plates are closed. I’m 19 yrs old at 5’10. Planning on getting to 9-10% body fat before starting to reduce estrogenic effects while on cycle.

Stack (Lasting 12 weeks):

• 500 Test E Weekly
• 3-4 IU HGH Daily
• 3mg Retatrutide Weekly
• 400mcg BPC-157 Daily
• 300mcg DSIP Daily
• 2mg GHK-CU Daily
• 12.5mg Aromasin EOD (Will reevaluate dose after bloodwork tests come back)
• 5mg Cialis Daily
• 20mg Accutane Daily
• 50mg Eplerenone Daily
• 2.5mg Minoxidil Daily
• 0.5mg Dutasteride EOD

PCT:

• Enclomiphene
• HCG
• PCT is a must as pinning indefinitely is just not a viable option for me. I honestly haven’t researched much into PCT, so please enlighten me on the dosages. I am confused on whether to take HCG during or after cycle as well. Will obviously look further into this before starting and buying everything.

Questions:

• I’m seeing mixed responses to HGH post puberty. Some people say its a looksmin if plates are closed while others say the opposite. Do you guys think HGH would help with my goals or will it just grow my ears and nose? Not sure if tesamorelin/igf1 or any other secretagogue would be better.
• How likely do you think I will gain any facial change apart from leanness?
• Are there any other compounds I should add to my cycle? Money isn’t an issue.
• Is there anything I should be doing to maximize facial gains during cycle? Stuff like bonesmashing etc.
• How often should I get bloodwork done? Ideally I would prefer to get it done as little as possible.
• Do you guys recommend I stay on a calorie surplus throughout the whole cycle and cut post cycle? Or maintain a caloric intake that keeps my abs? Or bulk and cut all during the cycle?

Thanks for reading, any advice is greatly appreciated.

 

[BigBallsLarry]

Bicycle

 

[papaya125]

typo

 

[BigBallsLarry]

typo

cycles aren't my speciality but i can tag some users for you that might know a thing or two

@Jattgymmaxx @Tigermoggerlol

@chadisbeingmade PCT is also mentioned here

 

[Mutumbu]

• 500 Test E Weekly
• 3-4 IU HGH Daily
• 3mg Retatrutide Weekly
• 400mcg BPC-157 Daily
• 300mcg DSIP Daily
• 2mg GHK-CU Daily
• 12.5mg Aromasin EOD (Will reevaluate dose after bloodwork tests come back)
• 5mg Cialis Daily
• 20mg Accutane Daily
• 50mg Eplerenone Daily
• 2.5mg Minoxidil Daily
• 0.5mg Dutasteride EOD

@chadisbeingmade would say 500mg test 20 weeks no pct

 

[mogmypsl999]

I’m seeing mixed responses to HGH post puberty. Some people say its a looksmin if plates are closed while others say the opposite. Do you guys think HGH would help with my goals or will it just grow my ears and nose? Not sure if tesamorelin/igf1 or any other secretagogue would be better.

Still figuring this out by myself so great question. i hope anybody has a valid answer.

How likely do you think I will gain any facial change apart from leanness?

Well your plates are closed and you're 19 which means there won't be any big changes. in theory, its possible to thicken your mandibula a little bit out. this comes mainly from test stacked with atleast 4-6iu of growth but leanness remains the biggest factor.

Are there any other compounds I should add to my cycle? Money isn’t an issue.

IGF-1 LR3 would be the perfect cherry on the top of your cake. I'd also add 2g Berberine daily to prevent diabetes from your hgh. IF you're really about lean lean gains add Primobolan, about 1g of it a week. Test : primo ratio is mostly 1:2.

How often should I get bloodwork done? Ideally I would prefer to get it done as little as possible.

Minimum of 3 times. before, during (middle of cycle) and post pct.
I suggest to get before, 2x during cycle, 1x post cycle / pre pct and post pct. so a total of 5 times.

Do you guys recommend I stay on a calorie surplus throughout the whole cycle and cut post cycle? Or maintain a caloric intake that keeps my abs? Or bulk and cut all during the cycle?

Yes absolutely. You can't cut and nuke your appetite with reta and expect to grow some muscles of off test if you're not able to eat the meal. take reta post cycle, maybe paired with hgh if its okay for you to extend hgh for 2 more months up to a 6 months total.

 

[Copercel]

Stack (Lasting 12 weeks):

• 500 Test E Weekly
• 3-4 IU HGH Daily
• 3mg Retatrutide Weekly
• 400mcg BPC-157 Daily
• 300mcg DSIP Daily
• 2mg GHK-CU Daily
• 12.5mg Aromasin EOD (Will reevaluate dose after bloodwork tests come back)
• 5mg Cialis Daily
• 20mg Accutane Daily
• 50mg Eplerenone Daily
• 2.5mg Minoxidil Daily
• 0.5mg Dutasteride EOD

Shit.

Test E for 12 weeks is pointless, do at least 16 weeks, same for hGH (you can use hGH indefinitely), and bump the duta dose to 2.5 mg.
Get rid of DSIP, BPC-157 and oral minoxidil, the rest are valid

• Enclomiphene
• HCG
• PCT is a must as pinning indefinitely is just not a viable option for me. I honestly haven’t researched much into PCT, so please enlighten me on the dosages. I am confused on whether to take HCG during or after cycle as well. Will obviously look further into this before starting and buying everything.

HCG and HMG is enough

You will recover either way so that depends on you

I’m seeing mixed responses to HGH post puberty. Some people say it’s a looksmin if plates are closed while others say the opposite. Do you guys think HGH would help with my goals or will it just grow my ears and nose? Not sure if tesamorelin/igf1 or any other secretagogue would be better.

If you mean and think that hGH will help you with bone mass and that’s the reason you’re using it, kys.

hGH is great for muscle mass and fat burning which is great to pair with Reta

How likely do you think I will gain any facial change apart from leanness?

you will get no changes probably

Are there any other compounds I should add to my cycle? Money isn’t an issue.

Maybe anavar to kickstart the cycle, do anavar for 8-12 weeks and then hop off it and continue with the test and the hGH

Is there anything I should be doing to maximize facial gains during cycle? Stuff like bonesmashing etc.

no, maybe training your masseter, other than that no, don’t even think about bonesmashing please

How often should I get bloodwork done? Ideally I would prefer to get it done as little as possible.

Do one at baseline, and then do it every 6 weeks while on cycle. full labs again right after you come off. Then recheck 6-8 weeks later to see if your natural markers are recovering (unless your cruiding of course)

Do you guys recommend I stay on a calorie surplus throughout the whole cycle and cut post cycle? Or maintain a caloric intake that keeps my abs? Or bulk and cut all during the cycle?

depends on you, I personally would do a surplus and then cut but slowly like 500 calories below my maintenance intake. But if you’re not very skinny already you can just stay at maintenance intake

do the Reta after the cycle when you cut

 

[BigBallsLarry]

Shit.

Test E for 12 weeks is pointless, do at least 16 weeks, same for hGH (you can use hGH indefinitely), and bump the duta dose to 2.5 mg.
Get rid of DSIP, BPC-157 and oral minoxidil, the rest are valid

HCG and HMG is enough

You will recover either way so that depends on you

If you mean and think that hGH will help you with bone mass and that’s the reason you’re using it, kys.

hGH is great for muscle mass and fat burning which is great to pair with Reta

you will get no changes probably


Maybe anavar to kickstart the cycle, do anavar for 8-12 weeks and then hop off it and continue with the test and the hGH

no, maybe training your masseter, other than that no, don’t even think about bonesmashing please
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Do one at baseline, and then do it every 6 weeks while on cycle. full labs again right after you come off. Then recheck 6-8 weeks later to see if your natural markers are recovering (unless your cruiding of course)

depends on you, I personally would do a surplus and then cut but slowly like 500 calories below my maintenance intake. But if you’re not very skinny already you can just stay at maintenance intake

do the Reta after the cycle when you cut

high iq copercel anwser

 

[Copercel]

high iq copercel anwser

 

[Tigermoggerlol]

Bicycle

Hello, first post on here after lurking around for a while. Planning on hopping on my first cycle soon and was wondering if I could get some ratings on my stack and any pointers on how to improve it. My goals are frame, muscle mass, and potentially some facial dimorphism gains but not expecting too much since my plates are closed. I’m 19 yrs old at 5’10. Planning on getting to 9-10% body fat before starting to reduce estrogenic effects while on cycle.

Stack (Lasting 12 weeks):

• 500 Test E Weekly
• 3-4 IU HGH Daily
• 3mg Retatrutide Weekly
• 400mcg BPC-157 Daily
• 300mcg DSIP Daily
• 2mg GHK-CU Daily
• 12.5mg Aromasin EOD (Will reevaluate dose after bloodwork tests come back)
• 5mg Cialis Daily
• 20mg Accutane Daily
• 50mg Eplerenone Daily
• 2.5mg Minoxidil Daily
• 0.5mg Dutasteride EOD

PCT:

• Enclomiphene
• HCG
• PCT is a must as pinning indefinitely is just not a viable option for me. I honestly haven’t researched much into PCT, so please enlighten me on the dosages. I am confused on whether to take HCG during or after cycle as well. Will obviously look further into this before starting and buying everything.

Questions:

• I’m seeing mixed responses to HGH post puberty. Some people say its a looksmin if plates are closed while others say the opposite. Do you guys think HGH would help with my goals or will it just grow my ears and nose? Not sure if tesamorelin/igf1 or any other secretagogue would be better.
• How likely do you think I will gain any facial change apart from leanness?
• Are there any other compounds I should add to my cycle? Money isn’t an issue.
• Is there anything I should be doing to maximize facial gains during cycle? Stuff like bonesmashing etc.
• How often should I get bloodwork done? Ideally I would prefer to get it done as little as possible.
• Do you guys recommend I stay on a calorie surplus throughout the whole cycle and cut post cycle? Or maintain a caloric intake that keeps my abs? Or bulk and cut all during the cycle?

Thanks for reading, any advice is greatly appreciated.

Bro if your blasting that much test no enclo or pct is gonna recover your shit JFL. U need to cruise after

 

[GymcellHJD]

Bicycle

Hello, first post on here after lurking around for a while. Planning on hopping on my first cycle soon and was wondering if I could get some ratings on my stack and any pointers on how to improve it. My goals are frame, muscle mass, and potentially some facial dimorphism gains but not expecting too much since my plates are closed. I’m 19 yrs old at 5’10. Planning on getting to 9-10% body fat before starting to reduce estrogenic effects while on cycle.

Stack (Lasting 12 weeks):

• 500 Test E Weekly
• 3-4 IU HGH Daily
• 3mg Retatrutide Weekly
• 400mcg BPC-157 Daily
• 300mcg DSIP Daily
• 2mg GHK-CU Daily
• 12.5mg Aromasin EOD (Will reevaluate dose after bloodwork tests come back)
• 5mg Cialis Daily
• 20mg Accutane Daily
• 50mg Eplerenone Daily
• 2.5mg Minoxidil Daily
• 0.5mg Dutasteride EOD

PCT:

• Enclomiphene
• HCG
• PCT is a must as pinning indefinitely is just not a viable option for me. I honestly haven’t researched much into PCT, so please enlighten me on the dosages. I am confused on whether to take HCG during or after cycle as well. Will obviously look further into this before starting and buying everything.

Questions:

• I’m seeing mixed responses to HGH post puberty. Some people say its a looksmin if plates are closed while others say the opposite. Do you guys think HGH would help with my goals or will it just grow my ears and nose? Not sure if tesamorelin/igf1 or any other secretagogue would be better.
• How likely do you think I will gain any facial change apart from leanness?
• Are there any other compounds I should add to my cycle? Money isn’t an issue.
• Is there anything I should be doing to maximize facial gains during cycle? Stuff like bonesmashing etc.
• How often should I get bloodwork done? Ideally I would prefer to get it done as little as possible.
• Do you guys recommend I stay on a calorie surplus throughout the whole cycle and cut post cycle? Or maintain a caloric intake that keeps my abs? Or bulk and cut all during the cycle?

Thanks for reading, any advice is greatly appreciated.

ever thought of adding mt2 do your stack? being tan will make you seem bigger and look better overall