First roid cycle 15 yrs old

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currently starting my first roid cycle
-300 test E
-Anavar
-AI
-NAC for liver support
-HCG
anything else i should add before my first pin?
 
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throw out var up test to 500 add sr9009 n telmisartan
 
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wonderful141 said:
are u sure? the dealer said 500 test would be to much. 500 was my original thought but idek.
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Var has a lower Roi and higher impact then 200 extra test on ur bloods

If u got advice from ur dealer he’s an idiot for not recommending u more ancillaries no wonder he’s saying 500 is too much


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Grievous said:
Var has a lower Roi and higher impact then 200 extra test on ur bloods

If u got advice from ur dealer he’s an idiot for not recommending u more ancillaries no wonder he’s saying 500 is too much


@MrMaxwell why ugh react
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alright, but i also hear that var is great to kickstart ur cycle?
 
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im 14 (almost 15) and wanna start hopping on anavar where do you buy?
 
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is this for gym purposes or some magical stack to grow your "facial bones " :lul:
 
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wonderful141 said:
currently starting my first roid cycle
-300 test E
-Anavar
-AI
-NAC for liver support
-HCG
anything else i should add before my first pin?
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youll fuck up ur brain ur brain is still developing but you do you
 
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wonderful141 said:
currently starting my first roid cycle
-300 test E
-Anavar
-AI
-NAC for liver support
-HCG
anything else i should add before my first pin?
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good shit bro

put the test to 350mg a week, just do 50mg everyday

if you got a 300mg/ml bottle then maybe its a bit harder unless you got specific needles

the var and gh compliment eachother really well, var lowers igf1 binding proteins and gives glucocorticoid inhibition, only other roids that inhibit the glucocorticoid receptor are tren and halo, this is why people love var, its the only "safe" one you can run for long periods of time and get glucocorticoid inihib

dont do 500 test, its a waste, youl get 90% of results on 350mg test
 
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Finalkiosk said:
good shit bro

put the test to 350mg a week, just do 50mg everyday

if you got a 300mg/ml bottle then maybe its a bit harder unless you got specific needles

the var and gh compliment eachother really well, var lowers igf1 binding proteins and gives glucocorticoid inhibition, only other roids that inhibit the glucocorticoid receptor are tren and halo, this is why people love var, its the only "safe" one you can run for long periods of time and get glucocorticoid inihib

dont do 500 test, its a waste, youl get 90% of results on 350mg test
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thank u bhai, il make sure to get specific needles. should i not pin for example monday and thursday? and not 50mg ed?
 
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wonderful141 said:
currently starting my first roid cycle
-300 test E
-Anavar
-AI
-NAC for liver support
-HCG
anything else i should add before my first pin?
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i have a feeling you might regret that when you're 20, goodluck though hope you get jacked just dont forget about ur face
 
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wonderful141 said:
thank u bhai, il make sure to get specific needles. should i not pin for example monday and thursday? and not 50mg ed?
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since you want to avoid side effects its better to pin everyday or eod

i can get away with 770mg test 175 tren 175 mast just because i pin eod and im relatively lean

no noticeable estrogen side effects for me, and i barely take any arimidex

you could do something like 120mg eod, it would be 420 a week, thats probably a really good start, just make sure you arent super fat and have arimidex on hand

120mg of test e would be 40 units on a 100 unit needle

assuming your getting 300mg/ml vials
 
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Finalkiosk said:
since you want to avoid side effects its better to pin everyday or eod

i can get away with 770mg test 175 tren 175 mast just because i pin eod and im relatively lean

no noticeable estrogen side effects for me, and i barely take any arimidex

you could do something like 120mg eod, it would be 420 a week, thats probably a really good start, just make sure you arent super fat and have arimidex on hand

120mg of test e would be 40 units on a 100 unit needle

assuming your getting 300mg/ml vials
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alr just bump it to 420 then, im not super fat but i have some fat cant lie, would this be a problem? should i do a cut before i start?
 
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wonderful141 said:
alr just bump it to 420 then, im not super fat but i have some fat cant lie, would this be a problem? should i do a cut before i start?
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you gotta be honest with yourself

if your not super fat it should be fine, but always have an ai on hand, if you pin daily or eod you can lower the spikes and valleys so you can aromitise less of it

if your not lean rn then you should 100% pin eod at the very minimum, daily if you want even more stable levels, but if your using enanthate it should be fine to do eod

if you have time to cut i would say do a 4 week minicut

its your last time being natural so maybe have some fun with it

research steroids as much as possible, watch vigorous steve
 
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Finalkiosk said:
you gotta be honest with yourself

if your not super fat it should be fine, but always have an ai on hand, if you pin daily or eod you can lower the spikes and valleys so you can aromitise less of it

if your not lean rn then you should 100% pin eod at the very minimum, daily if you want even more stable levels, but if your using enanthate it should be fine to do eod

if you have time to cut i would say do a 4 week minicut

its your last time being natural so maybe have some fun with it

research steroids as much as possible, watch vigorous steve
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alr il do a 4 week mincut before the first pin, and tbh im not fat. i have visible abs and veins. il pin eod as i feel like that would be easier but il test with ed first.
 
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mustfye said:
research into it if u want to maintain natural production of test after cycle, unless if u want to be test forever
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i want to maintain my natural test production so il hop on a pct, but i dont know what pct to take yet
 
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anondude said:
That’s nothing ur still developing so this wil do more damage to ur natural production than u think it will and only 2 years btw
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im not gonna train for 10 years with dieting and all that for some mid ass physique. when would u suggest i would hop on then?
 
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i want to maintain my natural test production so il hop on a pct, but i dont know what pct to take yet
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if you plan on stopping the test (which theres a 95% chance you wont after you see the results), then you should take 250iu hcg eod while your on cycle to maintain fertility

unless you plan on doing a really long cycle, then maybe hcg once a week with some hmg could be enough to prevent testicular atrophy without desensitizing you to hcg, even tho thats a bit of a myth
 
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Finalkiosk said:
if you plan on stopping the test (which theres a 95% chance you wont after you see the results), then you should take 250iu hcg eod while your on cycle to maintain fertility

unless you plan on doing a really long cycle, then maybe hcg once a week with some hmg could be enough to prevent testicular atrophy without desensitizing you to hcg, even tho thats a bit of a myth
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il do 250iu hcg eod after the cycle has ended, its a 15 week cycle. how long would u suggest it takes from the first cycle has ended until i start the second one?
 
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wonderful141 said:
il do 250iu hcg eod after the cycle has ended, its a 15 week cycle. how long would u suggest it takes from the first cycle has ended until i start the second one?
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dont do it after the cycle has ended

if you want a super advanced "pct"

you change your test ester to prop 4 weeks before the cycle ends and you start hcg 3 weeks before the cycle ends, then once it ends you continue the hcg for 3 more weeks but you introduce enclomiphene the same day your cycle ends

introducing hcg 3 weeks before means your balls will be ready by the time your cycle is done, and your test esters are a short propionate so it wont stay in your system for 4 weeks causing supression, in theory you could be fine that same day cause theres nothing causing supression a few days after the test p is out


realistically your going to stay on test because youl feel way better on it, just give it 4-8 weeks of 250-350mg test a week, make sure everything feels nice, do some blood work if possible, then go back up to 420 or a new 500 test or 420 + var
 
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Finalkiosk said:
dont do it after the cycle has ended

if you want a super advanced "pct"

you change your test ester to prop 4 weeks before the cycle ends and you start hcg 3 weeks before the cycle ends, then once it ends you continue the hcg for 3 more weeks but you introduce enclomiphene the same day your cycle ends

introducing hcg 3 weeks before means your balls will be ready by the time your cycle is done, and your test esters are a short propionate so it wont stay in your system for 4 weeks causing supression, in theory you could be fine that same day cause theres nothing causing supression a few days after the test p is out


realistically your going to stay on test because youl feel way better on it, just give it 4-8 weeks of 250-350mg test a week, make sure everything feels nice, do some blood work if possible, then go back up to 420 or a new 500 test or 420 + var
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alr thank u brah, i REALLY appreaciate it. thank u for the advice
 
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postizz said:
my philosophy has always been to max out your natural potential before enhancing,

softmax then hardmax if needed
fill out ur frame before taking anything
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it doesn't matter if takes longer, sometimes its better if it does than you quickly get results and face the consequences later. you're 15 and im sure by 18 with the right training and diet youll be close to or you will be where you wanna be, after youve gotten there its your choice if you want to take gear.

to add,
being a gymcel isnt always appealing, through experience and observation women dont always like someone built like hulk, they prefer a more athletic physique
 
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