First roid cycle @ 16

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i'm not experienced with roidmaxxing, so sorry if it's a stupid question:

why ain't you doing hcg or dut?
 
Taking tren as your first cycle especially at 16 is so retarded. Nga stick with test 500mg and a bit of var to the end of the cycle. Gives you an insane physique.
 
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Taking tren as your first cycle especially at 16 is so retarded. Nga stick with test 500mg and a bit of var to the end of the cycle. Gives you an insane physique.
Mainly lf bone growth not physique, i see what ur trying to say though
 
Mainly lf bone growth not physique, i see what ur trying to say though
If you want bone growth. take mk677/ hgh which is way safer. i think tren/test actually reduces and stunts it. AI's WILL stunt your bone growth. they make them fragile since oestrogen is needed to develop bones
 
If you want bone growth. take mk677/ hgh which is way safer. i think tren/test actually reduces and stunts it. AI's WILL stunt your bone growth. they make them fragile since oestrogen is needed to develop bones
i mean i lowkey fant afford hgh and it just wouldnt affect growth in the face as much

i just wanna milk my androgen receptors as kuch as possible
 
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I have seen a lot of bad cycles but that honestly has to be the second worse I have ever seen. Bro do yourself a favor and wait couple years belive me this cycle is bad, I don't even know where to start

Fun fact estrogen from aromatization can close the growth plates faster and you can end up shorter. I know that you are planning to take AIs but guess what? Your body also need estrogen for other functions and taking AIs can lead to a pretty long list of symptoms like Bone Health Issues and Cognitive Changes (these are the common ones), especially in your age some of them can end up being permanent.
 
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I have seen a lot of bad cycles but that honestly has to be the second worse I have ever seen. Bro do yourself a favor and wait couple years belive me this cycle is bad, I don't even know where to start
Every experienced biomaxxer ive asked said its really good
 
hcg is usually on a pct dut is if ur prone but always good to have on hand
oh yeah i heard, but i also heard some people say that cylcing 750-1500ius weekly while on cycle is best so your balls don't shrink.

isn't like 20mg nolvadex used as pct usually?

also i've heard some people say that inhibiting DHT while on cycle will prevent you from gaining facial masculinization, what's your thoughts on that? im confused abt it myself jfl
 
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oh yeah i heard, but i also heard some people say that cylcing 750-1500ius weekly while on cycle is best so your balls don't shrink.

isn't like 20mg nolvadex used as pct usually?

also i've heard some people say that inhibiting DHT while on cycle will prevent you from gaining facial masculinization, what's your thoughts on that? im confused abt it myself jfl
dht helps w facial masculinization but test also does so its not rlly that bad, for myself i dont rlly use dutast or fin i always recommend ru though
 
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oh yeah i heard, but i also heard some people say that cylcing 750-1500ius weekly while on cycle is best so your balls don't shrink.

isn't like 20mg nolvadex used as pct usually?

also i've heard some people say that inhibiting DHT while on cycle will prevent you from gaining facial masculinization, what's your thoughts on that? im confused abt it myself jfl
mb also yeah some ppl use hcg on cycle but not usually recommend and yes nolva is pct
 
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dht helps w facial masculinization but test also does so its not rlly that bad, for myself i dont rlly use dutast or fin i always recommend ru though
oh yeah cuz ru topically blocks dht

but also don't you have to be on test for like months to see facial masc rather than just a 12-16 week cycle?

thanks a lot for the info so far btw g, kinda rare to find someone as patient as you here :ogre:
 
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Every experienced biomaxxer ive asked said its really good
I am currently running this, but given your age I wouldn't recommend you doing the same you are going to end up missing height potential:

Testosterone Propionate 50 mg/day
Myo-T12 5 g twice daily

For lipid protection
Berverine 500 mg three times daily before meals
Omega-3 3 g EPA/DHA
Psyllium Husk powder 10 g
Zone 2 cardio 180 min/week split into 5 times per week (also good for heart health obviously)

For liver and kidney health
Monitor and keep blood pressure below 130/80 (have a blood pressure log)

For hair loss
Topical Dutasteride 0.1%
Finasteride 1 mg/day (this is not really useful if you are using topical dutasteride, but I was taking it before the cycle too and I decided to keep taking it)
Topical Minoxidil 5%
Ketoconazole 2% shampoo (I haven't tried it yet)
It is a good ideal for all of those to start couple week before the cycle and drop them couple weeks after

Extra supplements
Creatine 5 g/day
Whey protein 50 g/day
Casein protein 30 g/day (30-60 minutes before bed)
L-cirtulline 8 g/day as a pre workout (for nitric oxide support, better gym pump and lower bp)
There are more supplements/drugs that you could take to lower bp (like beta blockers and ARBs) if it is too high because the last thing you want is to get an enlarged heart. (also don't use AIs unless necessary you can study why I'm too lazy to explain)


And most importantly...
Blood tests to actually monitor organs
Pre-cycle:
* General panel
* TIBC
* B12
* Vitamin D (25-OH D3)
* CRP
* Fasting glucose
* HbA1c
* Total cholesterol
* HDL + LDL
* Triglycerides
* AST + ALT
* TSH
* Magnesium
* Sodium + Potassium
* ALP
* Creatinine
* eGFR
* Total testosterone
* FSH + LH
* SHBG
* Albumin
* Free testosterone
* Estradiol (E2)
* Prolactin
Mid-cyle at 6 weeks:
Metabolic:

* Fasting glucose
* Fasting insulin
* HbA1c
* CBC (Hematocrite < 52%)

Lipids:
* Total cholesterol
* HDL + LDL
* Triglycerides
* Apolipoprotein B (ApoB)

Hormones:
* Total testosterone
* SHBG
* Albumin
* Free testosterone
* Estradiol (E2)
* Prolactin
Liver:
* AST + ALT
* GGT (important)
* Bilirubin
Kidney:
* Creatinine
* eGFR
* BUN
* Urine albumin/creatinine (best early marker)

Other:
* TSH + T3 + T4
* PSA

Post-cycle:
Check again everything and also do an echocardiogram and an electrocardiogram (ECG) for the heart
Also you should have planned a proper PCT (like Enclomiphene + Tamoxifen)

Note: This is from another thread that I had answer.
 
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oh yeah cuz ru topically blocks dht

but also don't you have to be on test for like months to see facial masc rather than just a 12-16 week cycle?

thanks a lot for the info so far btw g, kinda rare to find someone as patient as you here :ogre:
any time man, and yes ru mogs dutast and fin since its topical i like dht other than the hair loss and yeah you need to be on test for a while or multiple cycles
 
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I am currently running this, but given your age I wouldn't recommend you doing the same you are going to end up missing height potential:

Testosterone Propionate 50 mg/day
Myo-T12 5 g twice daily

For lipid protection
Berverine 500 mg three times daily before meals
Omega-3 3 g EPA/DHA
Psyllium Husk powder 10 g
Zone 2 cardio 180 min/week split into 5 times per week (also good for heart health obviously)

For liver and kidney health
Monitor and keep blood pressure below 130/80 (have a blood pressure log)

For hair loss
Topical Dutasteride 0.1%
Finasteride 1 mg/day (this is not really useful if you are using topical dutasteride, but I was taking it before the cycle too and I decided to keep taking it)
Topical Minoxidil 5%
Ketoconazole 2% shampoo (I haven't tried it yet)
It is a good ideal for all of those to start couple week before the cycle and drop them couple weeks after

Extra supplements
Creatine 5 g/day
Whey protein 50 g/day
Casein protein 30 g/day (30-60 minutes before bed)
L-cirtulline 8 g/day as a pre workout (for nitric oxide support, better gym pump and lower bp)
There are more supplements/drugs that you could take to lower bp (like beta blockers and ARBs) if it is too high because the last thing you want is to get an enlarged heart. (also don't use AIs unless necessary you can study why I'm too lazy to explain)


And most importantly...
Blood tests to actually monitor organs
Pre-cycle:
* General panel
* TIBC
* B12
* Vitamin D (25-OH D3)
* CRP
* Fasting glucose
* HbA1c
* Total cholesterol
* HDL + LDL
* Triglycerides
* AST + ALT
* TSH
* Magnesium
* Sodium + Potassium
* ALP
* Creatinine
* eGFR
* Total testosterone
* FSH + LH
* SHBG
* Albumin
* Free testosterone
* Estradiol (E2)
* Prolactin
Mid-cyle at 6 weeks:
Metabolic:

* Fasting glucose
* Fasting insulin
* HbA1c
* CBC (Hematocrite < 52%)

Lipids:
* Total cholesterol
* HDL + LDL
* Triglycerides
* Apolipoprotein B (ApoB)

Hormones:
* Total testosterone
* SHBG
* Albumin
* Free testosterone
* Estradiol (E2)
* Prolactin
Liver:
* AST + ALT
* GGT (important)
* Bilirubin
Kidney:
* Creatinine
* eGFR
* BUN
* Urine albumin/creatinine (best early marker)

Other:
* TSH + T3 + T4
* PSA

Post-cycle:
Check again everything and also do an echocardiogram and an electrocardiogram (ECG) for the heart
Also you should have planned a proper PCT (like Enclomiphene + Tamoxifen)

Note: This is from another thread that I had answer.
Bet, those ancillaries look interesting honestly.

I really wanna preserve my health so i wanna take some good ancillaries- and isnt fin and minox bad for facial growth and dimo?
 
Bet, those ancillaries look interesting honestly.

I really wanna preserve my health so i wanna take some good ancillaries- and isnt fin and minox bad for facial growth and dimo?
Idk I am 22 years old so I dont really have to worry about facial growth, that's why I told you to give yourself a few more years before hoping on roids
 
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what you guys think about the cycle now? got help with it

250 test c

70 tren



Anastrozole (maybe)



Ezetimbe

nevivol

tamoxifen

cabergoline

coq10

Rosuvastatin

Eplerenone

Levothyroxine

Cialis

Ru58441
 
what you guys think about the cycle now? got help with it

250 test c

70 tren



Anastrozole (maybe)



Ezetimbe

nevivol

tamoxifen

cabergoline

coq10

Rosuvastatin

Eplerenone

Levothyroxine

Cialis

Ru58441
More drugs isn't going to make it better.
* Don't take tren if you care about your health
* Your liver is not going to like Ezetimbe
* You should use a beta blocker like Nevivol from the start it should only be used after you tried to lower your bp naturally and failed
* I imagine you are using tamoxifen for the PCT
* The same philosophy as Nevivol apply to Cabergoline you shouldn't lower your prolactin unless it's confirmed that is elevated through blood work
* You are stacking a lot of meds without a clear plan most of them overlap and that's not a good thing
* Levothyroxine?? Do you have hypothyroidism
* Why Ru58441 and not topical dutasteride or finasteride, they are doing the same job and they have far more research backing them up

I don't know who you are taking advice from, but he doesn't know as much as you think he is
 
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roid cycle
what we thinkin

+ would isotret interfere w bone grow

what you guys think about the cycle now? got help with it

250 test c

70 tren



Anastrozole (maybe)



Ezetimbe

nevivol

tamoxifen

cabergoline

coq10

Rosuvastatin

Eplerenone

Levothyroxine

Cialis

Ru58441
Don't do tren first cycle pls, stick to higher dosage test and get familiar with pinning, how u feel etc, I tried tren first cycle and didn't last more than 3 days
 
Why not? What made you stop?
Just had a bad reaction, night sweats etc, I'm gonna stay on test for now but then throw in mast or var mid june, just do test until it saturates properly, tren was just terrible and I felt like a firey ball of shit
 
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Just had a bad reaction, night sweats etc, I'm gonna stay on test for now but then throw in mast or var mid june, just do test until it saturates properly, tren was just terrible and I felt like a firey ball of shit
I got told to just use test for 6 weeks and then add tren
 
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Bet, those ancillaries look interesting honestly.

I really wanna preserve my health so i wanna take some good ancillaries- and isnt fin and minox bad for facial growth and dimo?
dont take finasteride or dutasteride at 16 youre gonna fuck some stuff up
 
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