First Roid Cycle – Need Help (Test Only or Stack?)

[iblamealen]

so I’m planning to start a 500mg/week test cycle. I’ve gone through the botb threads, old first cycle guide (2019), and newer posts, so basics like source and setup are sorted.

My goal is little bit of muscles and more bone mass / structure.

From what I read:

• The 2019 guide says just do 500mg test for 16 weeks.
• Newer posts say add HGH for better recovery, skin, less bloat.
• But then I saw people saying HGH needs like a year to actually do anything, so 16 weeks seems pointless.

Then I read the ascension guide from @PsychoDsk where he used test + anadrol + winstrol weekly and got solid results.

So now I’m confused:

• go simple test only
• add HGH (but short cycle seems useless)
• or go harsher with anadrol + winstrol

Main goal = bone mass / structure, not just size.

Anyone who’s actually tried this stuff, what’s the move?

 

[girthmaxxerfr]

you need to practice cummaxxing

 

[Doom0]

how old are you

 

[iblamealen]

how old are you

20

 

[Doom0]

20

tbh you're not gonna make any bone/structure gains at that age, get lean and do 500 test use an AI if needed, GH is a very good add on but pretty pricey, dont PCT after your cycle just drop down to a TRT dosage and cruise, the only reason you would do anabolics right now is for the physique gain nothing else.

 

[iblamealen]

tbh you're not gonna make any bone/structure gains at that age, get lean and do 500 test use an AI if needed, GH is a very good add on but pretty pricey, dont PCT after your cycle just drop down to a TRT dosage and cruise, the only reason you would do anabolics right now is for the physique gain nothing else.

Yeah I’m down to add GH, but do you think it’s actually worth it at my age or just a waste of money? And why cruise instead of doing a PCT?

 

[WanderrorSub5]

20

Damn, same boat my brother, tho I am older than you by two years, I'm looking to get into roids due to physique goals as well

 

[iblamealen]

Damn, same boat my brother, tho I am older than you by two years, I'm looking to get into roids due to physique goals as well

ayy nice bro ! How long have you been working out?

 

[WanderrorSub5]

ayy nice bro ! How long have you been working out?

Well I've only bulking for one year and got some gains like 3 years ago, then for 3 years I tried to get down as lean as possible but I failed, so I'm atp where Im like I want to get bigger muscles but don't mind getting that through roids

 

[Lucasegoliftson]

start with 500mg test weekly so you can figure out how you aromatise and get ur e2 control on lock.

then we can add a second compound like eq (250mg - 500mg depending on how u aromatise)
and if u wanna add an oral use 50mg anadrol ed for 4-6 weeks

so it would look like this:
500mg test - 4-6 weeks
500mg test + 250mg-500mg eq - 20 weeks
add 50mg anadrol ed for the final 4-6 weeks

 

[iblamealen]

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[iblamealen]

Well I've only bulking for one year and got some gains like 3 years ago, then for 3 years I tried to get down as lean as possible but I failed, so I'm atp where Im like I want to get bigger muscles but don't mind getting that through roids

damn broo thats a lot of time . so u are planning to run test only cycle or add orals as well ?

 

[xandylooksmaxs]

so I’m planning to start a 500mg/week test cycle. I’ve gone through the botb threads, old first cycle guide (2019), and newer posts, so basics like source and setup are sorted.

My goal is little bit of muscles and more bone mass / structure.

From what I read:

• The 2019 guide says just do 500mg test for 16 weeks.
• Newer posts say add HGH for better recovery, skin, less bloat.
• But then I saw people saying HGH needs like a year to actually do anything, so 16 weeks seems pointless.

Then I read the ascension guide from @PsychoDsk where he used test + anadrol + winstrol weekly and got solid results.

So now I’m confused:

• go simple test only
• add HGH (but short cycle seems useless)
• or go harsher with anadrol + winstrol

Main goal = bone mass / structure, not just size.

Anyone who’s actually tried this stuff, what’s the move?

this is interesting as this is how i conducted similar research + pub med
only difference im 16.
so im lost

 

[iblamealen]

start with 500mg test weekly so you can figure out how you aromatise and get ur e2 control on lock.

then we can add a second compound like eq (250mg - 500mg depending on how u aromatise)
and if u wanna add an oral use 50mg anadrol ed for 4-6 weeks

so it would look like this:
500mg test - 4-6 weeks
500mg test + 250mg-500mg eq - 20 weeks
add 50mg anadrol ed for the final 4-6 weeks

for the last 4–6 weeks with 50mg anadrol ED, do I keep running test with it or is that anadrol-only?

 

[WanderrorSub5]

damn broo thats a lot of time . so u are planning to run test only cycle or add orals as well ?

Well for certain i'll be doing TESTO E, but I need to do more research whilst finding sources for all the meds in case for side effects since I'm really new to ts

 

[WanderrorSub5]

start with 500mg test weekly so you can figure out how you aromatise and get ur e2 control on lock.

then we can add a second compound like eq (250mg - 500mg depending on how u aromatise)
and if u wanna add an oral use 50mg anadrol ed for 4-6 weeks

so it would look like this:
500mg test - 4-6 weeks
500mg test + 250mg-500mg eq - 20 weeks
add 50mg anadrol ed for the final 4-6 weeks

I searched online for beginner roider that 250mg of Test would be enough, why 500 tho?

 

[Lucasegoliftson]

for the last 4–6 weeks with 50mg anadrol ED, do I keep running test with it or is that anadrol-only?

obviously keep the test and eq

 

[Lucasegoliftson]

I searched online for beginner roider that 250mg of Test would be enough, why 500 tho?

yes 250 is enough but, if u have the knowledge and ur not a beginner lifter u can do more.

 

[WanderrorSub5]

yes 250 is enough but, if u have the knowledge and ur not a beginner lifter u can do more.

I see, tho I prob js try out 250 first since I've really only bulked for one year and half assed my training for 3 years lol

 

[iblamealen]

I searched online for beginner roider that 250mg of Test would be enough, why 500 tho?

same side effects on both doses thats why

 

[iblamealen]

obviously keep the test and eq

okay thanks Appreciate it bro

 

[iblamezygomaticbone]

go like 300 for 12 weeks if u want add hgh and aromasin but dont complicate it too much

 

[iblamealen]

this is interesting as this is how i conducted similar research + pub med
only difference im 16.
so im lost

Yeah bro, I’d say just wait till 18 . if u are satisfied with ur height then hop on

 

[iblamealen]

go like 300 for 12 weeks if u want add hgh and aromasin but dont complicate it too much

i am 20 so is it worth it to add hgh if i am only doing 16 weeks cycle ?

 

[Lucasegoliftson]

nah dont listen to that guy

 

[WanderrorSub5]

same side effects on both doses thats why

But you take anadrol ED to prevent the pp from shrinking?

 

[iblamezygomaticbone]

i am 20 so is it worth it to add hgh if i am only doing 16 weeks cycle ?

hgh is usually ran for like months on end so like on the low end to have a good roi 6 months, but its expensive af even if u get it from the grey market

 

[iblamealen]

But you take anadrol ED to prevent the pp from shrinking?

pp doesnt shrink on roids . ball shrinks for that u do pct with hcg enclo etc

 

[iblamealen]

hgh is usually ran for like months on end so like on the low end to have a good roi 6 months, but its expensive af even if u get it from the grey market

so if i add hgh i need to run it for atleast 6 months for results ?

 

[iblamezygomaticbone]

so if i add hgh i need to run it for atleast 6 months for results ?

not really evb has noticable results in diff time spans but for a average person yeah

 

[WanderrorSub5]

pp doesnt shrink on roids . ball shrinks for that u do pct with hcg enclo etc

then what is anadrol ED for then? Is it a GH?